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Bradd W. Szonye wrote:
> Bradd wrote:
>
>>>2 mirror image (illus)
>
>
> Jim Davies wrote:
>
>>Far too prone to mooks, arrows, Magic Missile, Cleave or
>>
>>Actually, in "Any successful attack against an image destroys it." I
>>assume "attack" must be a deliberate physical attack action (ie roll
>>d20 to hit) capable of doing damage; otherwise AoE spells would wipe
>>it out, as would a handful of sand. But what about shadows, Ray of
>>Frost or Ray of Enfeeblement?
>
>
> IIRC, anything that targets an image dispels it, but I don't have the
> rules handy to double-check.
From the FAQ:
"Are the multiple figments from a mirror image spell
legal targets for cleaving? That is, if you have the Cleave
feat and you hit an image and destroy it, can you then
attack another target within reach (such as another figment
from the spell or perhaps the spell user)? What about
Whirlwind Attack? Can you use this feat to attack all the
images around the spell user? What about spells that allow
multiple targets, such as magic missile? Can you aim magic
missiles at different images?"
"For all intents and purposes, the figments from a foe’s
mirror image spell are your foes. You aim your spells and your
attacks at the figments just as though they were real creatures.
Any spell you can aim at a creature you can aim at an image.
When you use a spell that allows you to select multiple
creatures as targets, such as magic missile, you can choose
multiple images as targets.
If you have the Cleave or Great Cleave feat, destroying an
image with a melee attack triggers the feat (and your cleaving
attack might well strike the spell user instead of another
image). Likewise, you can use Whirlwind Attack to strike at
any image you can reach. A Whirlwind Attack almost certainly
will allow you to strike once at the spell user."
>>And are you in control of the images? I infer so, but it doesn't say
>>so, doesn't say whether they move or teleport, whether they can appear
>>on the other side or a door, etc etc.
>
>
> Huh? I'm sure the rules answer at least a couple of those questions. For
> example, they can't appear on the other side of a door unless you have
> line-of-effect to that space. And it clearly states that you can
> rearrage the images; dunno whether that's what you meant by "control."
"Is there a way to decide which squares the figments
from a mirror image spell occupy? Or do the images
distribute themselves randomly? If it’s the latter, how does
the DM decide where they go?"
"Although the spell description says the images from a
mirror image spell always stay within 5 feet of either the user
or another image, it’s easiest to assume that all the images
occupy the same space the spell user occupies. Any attack that
can reach the user’s space can affect an image."
AND...
"What happens if a mirror image user is incorporeal? Are
the user’s images also incorporeal? Do attacks aimed at the
images have the incorporeal miss chance? If the incorporeal
user moves through a wall, can the images move through
the wall, too? What happens if the user goes to another
plane? Do the images go along? What if the mirror image
user employs a blink spell?"
"Incorporeal spell casters create corporeal effects. So the
figments from an incorporeal user’s mirror image spell are
themselves corporeal. Attacks aimed at the images have no
incorporeal miss chance.
The images, however, appear like the caster and move as
the caster moves. If an incorporeal user moves through a wall,
its mirror images also appear to move through the wall.
If a mirror image user moves to another plane, the images
go along. If the user also employs a blink spell, the images
blink right along with the user, and any attack aimed at an
image has the same miss chance (50%) it has if aimed at the
caster."
Bradd W. Szonye wrote:
> Bradd wrote:
>
>>>2 mirror image (illus)
>
>
> Jim Davies wrote:
>
>>Far too prone to mooks, arrows, Magic Missile, Cleave or
>>
>>Actually, in "Any successful attack against an image destroys it." I
>>assume "attack" must be a deliberate physical attack action (ie roll
>>d20 to hit) capable of doing damage; otherwise AoE spells would wipe
>>it out, as would a handful of sand. But what about shadows, Ray of
>>Frost or Ray of Enfeeblement?
>
>
> IIRC, anything that targets an image dispels it, but I don't have the
> rules handy to double-check.
From the FAQ:
"Are the multiple figments from a mirror image spell
legal targets for cleaving? That is, if you have the Cleave
feat and you hit an image and destroy it, can you then
attack another target within reach (such as another figment
from the spell or perhaps the spell user)? What about
Whirlwind Attack? Can you use this feat to attack all the
images around the spell user? What about spells that allow
multiple targets, such as magic missile? Can you aim magic
missiles at different images?"
"For all intents and purposes, the figments from a foe’s
mirror image spell are your foes. You aim your spells and your
attacks at the figments just as though they were real creatures.
Any spell you can aim at a creature you can aim at an image.
When you use a spell that allows you to select multiple
creatures as targets, such as magic missile, you can choose
multiple images as targets.
If you have the Cleave or Great Cleave feat, destroying an
image with a melee attack triggers the feat (and your cleaving
attack might well strike the spell user instead of another
image). Likewise, you can use Whirlwind Attack to strike at
any image you can reach. A Whirlwind Attack almost certainly
will allow you to strike once at the spell user."
>>And are you in control of the images? I infer so, but it doesn't say
>>so, doesn't say whether they move or teleport, whether they can appear
>>on the other side or a door, etc etc.
>
>
> Huh? I'm sure the rules answer at least a couple of those questions. For
> example, they can't appear on the other side of a door unless you have
> line-of-effect to that space. And it clearly states that you can
> rearrage the images; dunno whether that's what you meant by "control."
"Is there a way to decide which squares the figments
from a mirror image spell occupy? Or do the images
distribute themselves randomly? If it’s the latter, how does
the DM decide where they go?"
"Although the spell description says the images from a
mirror image spell always stay within 5 feet of either the user
or another image, it’s easiest to assume that all the images
occupy the same space the spell user occupies. Any attack that
can reach the user’s space can affect an image."
AND...
"What happens if a mirror image user is incorporeal? Are
the user’s images also incorporeal? Do attacks aimed at the
images have the incorporeal miss chance? If the incorporeal
user moves through a wall, can the images move through
the wall, too? What happens if the user goes to another
plane? Do the images go along? What if the mirror image
user employs a blink spell?"
"Incorporeal spell casters create corporeal effects. So the
figments from an incorporeal user’s mirror image spell are
themselves corporeal. Attacks aimed at the images have no
incorporeal miss chance.
The images, however, appear like the caster and move as
the caster moves. If an incorporeal user moves through a wall,
its mirror images also appear to move through the wall.
If a mirror image user moves to another plane, the images
go along. If the user also employs a blink spell, the images
blink right along with the user, and any attack aimed at an
image has the same miss chance (50%) it has if aimed at the
caster."
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