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> Heck, maybe even Appolonius could be put to some use now. Have to
> check...

honestly, Appolonius is far from salvation. Perhaps a great ADV version with
a cool merge skill would ever make him usefull

Compare it to Brachah. Ok, lacks it's über and unique text (press and +1
bleed) and a really usefull title like primogen. But really, 5 more pool for
inf. pot and that text... Better get brachah and buy her the eye of hazimel.

>
> best,
>
> Fabio Sooner
> VTES NC for Brazil
 
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talonz wrote:
> Yeah that's what I thought, thanks. Kinda neat really. A way of
> saying "No trophies for you!" and making red list targets less
> attractive, say like, your own vamp.

Yeah, you go with that. And don't let your predator's mad giggling make
you think any less of your plan.

--Colin McGuigan
 
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"FC" <fc@kemi.dtu.dk> a écrit dans le message de news:
cu7poo$mmc$1@news.net.uni-c.dk...
> adam.hulse@ngc.com wrote:
> > Orpheus, why would the Baron keep his 2 votes?
> >
>
> I'm not Orpheus but from what LSJ wrote the card doesn't say he should
> lose them. So why would he lose them?

"The Cadaverous Verger" <cadaverous.verger@REMOVETHISpriest.com> a écrit
dans le message de news: cu7q81$vbd$1@bowmore.utu.fi...
> adam.hulse@ngc.com wrote:
> > Orpheus, why would the Baron keep his 2 votes?
>
> I'm not Orpheus, but why wouldn't he?

I'm so surprised that so many people aren't me ! How do you do it ? I know I
couldn't... 😉

----------
Orpheus, the only true copyrighted one (WW still owes me money about that
game...)
 
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"Rob Treasure" <robtreasure'remove'@ntlworld.com> a écrit dans le message de
news: VRJNd.296$Db1.77@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> "LSJ" wrote
>
> > The preview in LN was either a pre-proof version, or was transcribed
> > incorrectly
> > for this thread (given the spelling and capitalization issues, I'd guess
> > the latter). The actual text is:
>
> Hey, don't shoot the messenger - I can't help it if the French can't spell
> 😱) MY spellcheck works just fine thanks.

Does it ?

What translator did you use ?

I'll have to put you through a few necro-experiments next time we meet, to
see exactly what you got inside you...
 
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In message <1107801812.643409.14360@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
talonz <talonz51@yahoo.ca> writes:
>Rob Treasure wrote:
>> The Name Forgotten
>>Action
>>tha : (D) Put this card on a ready unique vampire.If the vampire with
>>this card is burned, he or she is removed from the game instead, and
>>all Methuselah search their crypts, ash heap and uncontrolled regions
>>for other vampires with the same name. Thes vampires are removed from
>>the game as well. (Shuffle all crypts afterward).
>>THA As above, but the action is at +1 stealth.
>>
>
>So...if this is on a red list vamp, and that vamp were to burn but
>instead triggers the Name's 'remove from game instead' clause, would
>there be any trophies rewarded?

From the rule as presented on the website, no.

The Red List vampire didn't burn (they're "removed... instead"), so the
rule doesn't trigger.

--
James Coupe "Why do so many talented people turn out to be sexual
PGP Key: 0x5D623D5D deviants? Why can't they just be normal like me and
EBD690ECD7A1FB457CA2 look at internet pictures of men's cocks all day?"
13D7E668C3695D623D5D -- www.livejournal.com/users/scarletdemon/
 
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> And note that now the Anarchs have the support of a bunch of group
1/2
> vampires with good discipline spread but had pesky Primogen/Bishop
> titles.

Not only that... Pug Jackson can now become an anarch!!
The reason this is important isn't just because he has CEL and for and
can thus smack people around and prevent with Diversion... it's because
this vampire was laughably placed in the Anarch Gangs starter deck, in
fact he was even *on the front cover of the deck*, and yet he could not
become an anarch because of his primogen title!! Ridiculous.
Unless of course you get Pug to upgrade himself to Prince via a Praxis
Seizure, and then get one of your guys to play a Command of the Harpies
on him to make him lose his prince title... then he could have become
an anarch... hahaha.

Now there's an easy way to get many of the good titled vamps to become
anarchs... good stuff. So many good titled mid-cap vampires, like
Carna, can now be included in anarch decks. But I guess you better have
stealth somehow...
Lazverinus joining his !Ventrue anarch brothers, hehe...
 
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Dasein wrote:
> > And note that now the Anarchs have the support of a bunch of group
> 1/2
> > vampires with good discipline spread but had pesky Primogen/Bishop
> > titles.
>
> Not only that... Pug Jackson can now become an anarch!!
> The reason this is important isn't just because he has CEL and for
and
> can thus smack people around and prevent with Diversion... it's
because
> this vampire was laughably placed in the Anarch Gangs starter deck,
in
> fact he was even *on the front cover of the deck*, and yet he could
not
> become an anarch because of his primogen title!! Ridiculous.
> Unless of course you get Pug to upgrade himself to Prince via a
Praxis
> Seizure, and then get one of your guys to play a Command of the
Harpies
> on him to make him lose his prince title... then he could have become
> an anarch... hahaha.

Or you could play... Into the Fire?

> Now there's an easy way to get many of the good titled vamps to
become
> anarchs... good stuff. So many good titled mid-cap vampires, like
> Carna, can now be included in anarch decks. But I guess you better
have
> stealth somehow...
> Lazverinus joining his !Ventrue anarch brothers, hehe...

Somehow I think Out of the Frying Pan/Into the Fire will be better for
decks that don't include princes/archbishops (not being blockable for
one). I like the card, but it's rare, and counting on getting it and
not being blocked seems rather foolish.

John
 
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> Now there's an easy way to get many of the good titled vamps to become
> anarchs... good stuff. So many good titled mid-cap vampires, like
> Carna, can now be included in anarch decks. But I guess you better have
> stealth somehow...
> Lazverinus joining his !Ventrue anarch brothers, hehe...
>

I could I last try (and realize what bad decks they are 😛 ):

Villon calling Free states rant using smoke and mirrors...

Volker, Rake and anvil joining the ranks of my brujah debate/anarchist
deck...

Blackwood, Ardan Lane or even etrius in a loose cannon deck
 
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"" Yeah that's what I thought, thanks. Kinda neat really. A way of
saying "No trophies for you!" and making red list targets less
attractive, say like, your own vamp. ""

And is probably one reason why this card was sneaked in there in the
first place. Its good that the set is meta-ing itself like this, but
making the anti trophy angle of the thing require tha is silly. Lets
just hope there are cards for redlisted minions to use (though I
somewhat doubt it. Why give X specific cards if X is something that
gained you points on the vampire...).
 
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Colin McGuigan wrote:
> talonz wrote:
> > Yeah that's what I thought, thanks. Kinda neat really. A way of
> > saying "No trophies for you!" and making red list targets less
> > attractive, say like, your own vamp.
>
> Yeah, you go with that. And don't let your predator's mad giggling
make
> you think any less of your plan.
>
>

I find it doubtfull that I would ever play the card myself, but it *is*
an option to remove the trophy part of the redlist disadvantage.

G
 
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On 8 Feb 2005 05:09:45 -0800, jnewquist@difsol.com wrote:

>> Now there's an easy way to get many of the good titled vamps to
>become
>> anarchs... good stuff. So many good titled mid-cap vampires, like
>> Carna, can now be included in anarch decks. But I guess you better
>have
>> stealth somehow...
>> Lazverinus joining his !Ventrue anarch brothers, hehe...
>
>Somehow I think Out of the Frying Pan/Into the Fire will be better for
>decks that don't include princes/archbishops (not being blockable for
>one). I like the card, but it's rare, and counting on getting it and
>not being blocked seems rather foolish.
>John

I was thinking the same, unless you plan to "borrow" your prey's
titled vampire to do it.
Temptation on Arika, she plays Anarch Secession at stealth... :)

best,

Fabio "Sooner" Macedo
V:TES National Coordinator for Brazil
-----------------------------------------------------
now a "luminary", whatever it means:
http://www.thelasombra.com/WhosWho/fabiomacedo.htm
 
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> I was thinking the same, unless you plan to "borrow" your prey's
> titled vampire to do it.
> Temptation on Arika, she plays Anarch Secession at stealth... :)

haha nice :)

then start bleeding with Fiendish Tongue, anarchs can't block the
action :)
 
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> And is probably one reason why this card was sneaked in there in the
> first place. Its good that the set is meta-ing itself like this, but
> making the anti trophy angle of the thing require tha is silly. Lets
> just hope there are cards for redlisted minions to use (though I
> somewhat doubt it. Why give X specific cards if X is something that
> gained you points on the vampire...).

a) For background flavour purposes (there are certainly things Red List
vampires can do to survive, contacts they have etc)

b) Because the disadvantage is really, really big.
--
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Orpheus, proud son of "Don" Antonino Cirri [07/02/1923 - 29/01/2005]
 
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"Orpheus" <orpheus.13@ERASERHEADfree.fr> wrote in message news:420904d9$0$626$636a15ce@news.free.fr...
> > And is probably one reason why this card was sneaked in there in the
> > first place. Its good that the set is meta-ing itself like this, but
> > making the anti trophy angle of the thing require tha is silly. Lets
> > just hope there are cards for redlisted minions to use (though I
> > somewhat doubt it. Why give X specific cards if X is something that
> > gained you points on the vampire...).
>
> a) For background flavour purposes (there are certainly things Red List
> vampires can do to survive, contacts they have etc)
>
> b) Because the disadvantage is really, really big.

See also "requires an infernal vampire" stuff.

--
LSJ (vtesrep@white-wolf.com) V:TES Net.Rep for White Wolf, Inc.
V:TES homepage: http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/
Though effective, appear to be ineffective -- Sun Tzu