Still having O.C. issues

Bobbrugge

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Hi Guys!
I have read everything I can find on how to O.C. my system. I have had nothing but headaches.
First my build…
Night hawk 117 case with case fans plugged into MOBO
Asus 970 Pro Gaming Aura board
Vishera 8350 FX proc.
Evo 212 cooler
Msi raedon 270 X O.C. GPU
Twin sticks of 8gb RAM @ 2133, forget which brand.
1500 W PSU
2 500 GB HD in raid config
I have read everything I can Find, watched every video that is on overclocking that I can find/understand.
I even read through some of the reviews for these products again looking for something I may have missed.
Ok, So I have been trying to O.C. this thing for years. My proc is set at 4k, and allegedly, I “should”
be able to get another 10 or 15% out of it on air with few issues.
Here is what I have done, what am I missing?
First I set my BIOS to D.O.C.P for my mem sticks. That puts my ht link at 2400 and my NB ratio @ 2200.
CPU ratio is @ 20 and multiplier is set at 200 for 4013K.
Test with Prime 95, use speed fan to monitor and adjust fan speeds, watch everything on hwinfo.
Boom, 2 hours later and we are at like 53C.
Crank up the cpu ratio to 20.5, restart, crash, restart, crash, restart, reset voltage, rinse and repeat. I finally got enough juice to it to get it to start, retest, temps go up to 58ish. Seems stable. Restart, crank up CPU to 21, retest, 63C ish after a few hours of testing.. Try for 21.5, and there is no way this thing will hold the heat, or I am to chicken to run it at 68+ and hope it doesn’t melt.
At 21 cpu ratio, it tests fine, but when I go online, it crashes. But why? Isnt that a much lighter load?
I have seen build sheets where the author claims 4900 K on the exact same processor, also on air by using both the FSB speed and the cpu ratio to really crank it up.
This leads me to believe that I must be doing something desperately wrong…
So who wants to help me? I understand the risks of overclocking as well as the risks of asking ppl on the internet for advice.
My methodology is simple. I use everything set on auto for the bench test. Unfortunately, I run out of thermal head room in just about 75 seconds. So I have to crank down the voltage to about 1.225 to get it to start and not overheat during testing. With everything else set to auto, I can rock 4k all day long with temps in the upper 40’s to lower 50’s
Once I get my voltage as low as it will go with out crashing, I raise the cpu ratio by .5 and add more juice one notch at a time until it starts and is able to be tested.
I have PCIE spread disabled along with some other things, I could remember what they are called if I was looking at my BIOS.., they are recommended to be turned off for better o.c. I have cool n quiet disabled, hpc enabled, basically everything set up the way the guides tell me to.
I was having a real thermal issue until I changed fan control from the crappy hi med lo switch on the case to controlling them off of the sensors in the MOBO. I had hoped that would add a huge amount of cooling, it didn’t, but it does take longer to reach temp
I have a 120mm fan on my heat sink for my cpu, another fan maybe 3 inches behind it at the top rear of the case for exhaust, both are plugged into cpu slots on my MOBO, basically they add as a push/pull unit. I have 2 140 mm fans blowing out hot air on the top, a 140 mm and a 120 mm fan sucking in cool air from the front lower. I even modded my case just enough to get a fan blowing on the back of the socket.
I can provide pics/vids of it doing it’s thing, maybe someone more experienced can see some glaring oopsie that I didn’t think of.

 
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that is about it for that cooler.if you like you can google reviews of the 212.it is a decent budget cooler but that is it.anyone want one for free i have one.i take it you are overclocking because you can?its kinda like hot rodding a car to me.what i would do is get rid of all the extra fans and go back to what the case had stock.then add the cooler and start again.disable turbo boost,cool nquiet and set your cpu voltage to stock.dont worry about ht link and nb ratio yet (you will not get a noticable performance boost anyhow).this is the same board i have so if you really want to mess with these settings they are able to be manually adjusted in bios.bump your multiplier until system crashes.then bump cpu voltage until its stable.then...
for starters you need a better cooler if you want to do any decent oc.i had a 212 on my fx 6300 and had major heat problems on anything over about 4ghz.added nh d14 noctua and have great temps @4.5ghz.i only have 3 case fans other than my cpu cooler.one in front (intake) one at the rear (exhaust),and one on top (exhaust).i had one intake in the side and ended up taking it out as it actually increased temps.more isnt always better.what do you have it running at now?
 

I disagree.

I have a 212 EVO cooler on my backup PC running an FX 8320 @ 4.6 without any issues for nearly a year. I recently lowered it to 4.3 because it's not something I play games on and didn't need it that high for no reason.

FYI, Even at stock speeds, an 8350 won't bottleneck your Msi raedon 270 anyway. Even if you were to OC an additional 10-15% you most likely will not see any difference anyway.
 
that is about it for that cooler.if you like you can google reviews of the 212.it is a decent budget cooler but that is it.anyone want one for free i have one.i take it you are overclocking because you can?its kinda like hot rodding a car to me.what i would do is get rid of all the extra fans and go back to what the case had stock.then add the cooler and start again.disable turbo boost,cool nquiet and set your cpu voltage to stock.dont worry about ht link and nb ratio yet (you will not get a noticable performance boost anyhow).this is the same board i have so if you really want to mess with these settings they are able to be manually adjusted in bios.bump your multiplier until system crashes.then bump cpu voltage until its stable.then try the multiplier again.etc etc etc.have fun with it.
 
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