Question Streaming HD from Youtube: Not All GPUs Can Handle vp8 or vp9 codecs

[Petros_K]

Bought a new video card so that hopefully I could get 1080p resolution and maybe even 4K streaming to my TV from Youtube. Read that a GeForce GTX 1050 Ti can do the job if I'm not interested in gaming. Installed fine on my PC.

But then, unless I'm mistaken about this, I am just floored to have now learned there is apparently much more to it. Youtube streams many HD videos using a vp8 or vp9 codec, and I found out now that not all GPUs can decode it.

This page: https://developer.nvidia.com/video-encode-and-decode-gpu-support-matrix-new

contains a list of video cards and what codecs they can decode. The GTX 1050 Ti apparently can't do vp8 and vp9, which means the upgrade did nothing to get me what I'm looking for. Still can't watch 1080p vids streaming with the vp8 or vp9 codecs without lots of stalling. The list at the link above indicates at minimum I'd need to have purchased a GeForce GTX 1630 in order to decode videos streaming with the vp8 or vp9 codec?

Am I understanding this correctly or am I mistaken?

 

[dwd999]

Bought a new video card so that hopefully I could get 1080p resolution and maybe even 4K streaming to my TV from Youtube. Read that a GeForce GTX 1050 Ti can do the job if I'm not interested in gaming. Installed fine on my PC.

But then, unless I'm mistaken about this, I am just floored to have now learned there is apparently much more to it. Youtube streams many HD videos using a vp8 or vp9 codec, and I found out now that not all GPUs can decode it.

This page: https://developer.nvidia.com/video-encode-and-decode-gpu-support-matrix-new

contains a list of video cards and what codecs they can decode. The GTX 1050 Ti apparently can't do vp8 and vp9, which means the upgrade did nothing to get me what I'm looking for. Still can't watch 1080p vids streaming with the vp8 or vp9 codecs without lots of stalling. The list at the link above indicates at minimum I'd need to have purchased a GeForce GTX 1630 in order to decode videos streaming with the vp8 or vp9 codec?

Am I understanding this correctly or am I mistaken?

Well for starters, youtube does not use vp8. Only avc1, vp9 and av01.0.17M.08 (571). What is the rest of your system comprised of that you have lots of stalling, and what kind of internet connection do you have? (At the moment I'm using a system that only has a 13900K cpu and it plays youtube's highest 8k videos with no video card and no problems.) Also what model TV and how is it connected to your computer? Hopefully its not an hdmi cable problem.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Have you TRIED watching them? Because honestly, I've not had any problems with any Youtube videos at 1080p even with much less capable hardware, and in fact, even older integrated graphics adapters. I have a much older system with an AMD A8-6500 and integrated HD 8570D graphics, released in 2013, so ten years ago, and I just played about twenty different Youtube videos at 1080p just to make sure I wasn't talking out my earhole, and it worked completely fine.

I have another system on the bench I am working on, with a GT 1030, which is even less capable than your 1050 ti, and it too had no problems with any 1080p Youtube video of the 20 or so that I tried.

If you have a problem, I think it's elsewhere.

What are your FULL hardware specifications?

 

[BFG-9000]

You are reading the chart wrong. All 1050Ti can hardware decode 8-bit VP9 up to 4k resolution. Some 1050Ti can also decode 10-bit and 12-bit VP9.

If you want a card to decode AV1 (the former VP10 project) then you will require an RTX 3000 series (or RTX 2050 Mobile) or later.

Note that you usually have to enable hardware acceleration in your player.

 

[Petros_K]

I've got a 100mbps internet connection speed. Speedtest shows download speed is a bit higher.

What hardware info? The video card or the whole PC?

 

[Darkbreeze]

I have 100mbps connection as well, through Xfinity/Comcast, and have no issues on any of the systems I own or am working on, even with older integrated graphics and even on the test bench where they are running off slower WiFi and not Ethernet like my primary system.

What model is your CPU? How much memory is installed? Have you actually tried watching anything at the desired settings? Tried a different cable? Has to be something else going on if it's not working because there is literally no reason that 1050 ti should not be able to stream 1080p Youtube videos if I can do so with a 10 year old APU with only integrated graphics.

 

[ARICH5]

id be looking at your realtek drivers or the nvidia hd audio drivers. not the gpu itself. also make sure your mobo contains a native realtek chipset (not all do).

 

[Petros_K]

What are your FULL hardware specifications

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Active State Power Management (ASPM) Support: L0s and L1
Active State Power Management (ASPM) Status: Disabled
L0s Exit Latency: 256 - 512 ns
L1 Exit Latency: 8 - 16 us
Maximum Payload Size Supported: 256 bytes
Maximum Payload Size: 128 bytes
Resizable BAR Support: Not Supported
[System Resources]
Interrupt Line: IRQ16
Interrupt Pin: INTA#
Memory Base Address 0 F2000000
Memory Base Address 1 E0000000
Memory Base Address 3 F0000000
I/O Base Address 5 2100
[Features]
Bus Mastering: Enabled
Running At 66 MHz: Not Capable
Fast Back-to-Back Transactions: Not Capable
[Driver Information]
Driver Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Driver Description: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
Driver Provider: NVIDIA
Driver Version: 30.0.14.7212 (GeForce 472.12)
Driver Date: 12-Sep-2021
DCH/UWD Driver: Not Capable
DeviceInstanceId PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1C82&SUBSYS_37331458&REV_A1\4&D5C2A06&0&0008
Location Paths PCIROOT(0)#PCI(0100)#PCI(0000)

NVIDIA GP107 - High Definition Audio Controller ---------------------------

[General Information]
Device Name: NVIDIA GP107 - High Definition Audio Controller
Original Device Name: NVIDIA GP107 - High Definition Audio Controller
Device Class: High Definition Audio
Revision ID: A1
PCI Address (Bus😀evice:Function) Number: 1:0:1
PCI Latency Timer: 0
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0FB9&SUBSYS_37331458&REV_A1
[PCI Express]
Version: 2.0
Maximum Link Width: x16
Current Link Width: x16
Maximum Link Speed: 5.0 GT/s
Current Link Speed: 2.5 GT/s
Device/Port Type: PCI Express Endpoint
Slot Implemented: No
Emergency Power Reduction: Not Supported
Active State Power Management (ASPM) Support: L0s and L1
Active State Power Management (ASPM) Status: L0s and L1 Entry
L0s Exit Latency: 256 - 512 ns
L1 Exit Latency: 2 - 4 us
Maximum Payload Size Supported: 256 bytes
Maximum Payload Size: 128 bytes
Resizable BAR Support: Not Supported
[System Resources]
Interrupt Line: IRQ17
Interrupt Pin: INTB#
Memory Base Address 0 F3000000
[Features]
Bus Mastering: Enabled
Running At 66 MHz: Not Capable
Fast Back-to-Back Transactions: Not Capable
[Driver Information]
Driver Manufacturer: Microsoft
Driver Description: High Definition Audio Controller
Driver Provider: Microsoft
Driver Version: 6.1.7601.17514
Driver Date: 18-Nov-2010
DeviceInstanceId PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0FB9&SUBSYS_37331458&REV_A1\4&D5C2A06&0&0108
Location Paths PCIROOT(0)#PCI(0100)#PCI(0001)


Broadcom BCM5755 NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express -------------------

[General Information]
Device Name: Broadcom BCM5755 NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
Original Device Name: Broadcom BCM5755 NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
Device Class: Ethernet Adapter
Revision ID: 2
PCI Address (Bus😀evice:Function) Number: 63:0:0
PCI Latency Timer: 0
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_14E4&DEV_167B&SUBSYS_1308103C&REV_02
[PCI Express]
Version: 1.1
Maximum Link Width: x1
Current Link Width: x1
Maximum Link Speed: 2.5 GT/s
Current Link Speed: 2.5 GT/s
Device/Port Type: PCI Express Endpoint
Slot Implemented: No
Emergency Power Reduction: Not Supported
Active State Power Management (ASPM) Support: L0s
Active State Power Management (ASPM) Status: Disabled
L0s Exit Latency: 2 - 4 us
L1 Exit Latency: 32 - 64 us
Maximum Payload Size Supported: 128 bytes
Maximum Payload Size: 128 bytes
Resizable BAR Support: Not Supported
[System Resources]
Interrupt Line: N/A
Interrupt Pin: INTA#
Memory Base Address 0 F3100000
[Features]
Bus Mastering: Enabled
Running At 66 MHz: Not Capable
Fast Back-to-Back Transactions: Not Capable
[Driver Information]
Driver Manufacturer: Broadcom
Driver Description: Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet
Driver Provider: Microsoft Corporation
Driver Version: 10.100.4.0
Driver Date: 25-Apr-2009
DeviceInstanceId PCI\VEN_14E4&DEV_167B&SUBSYS_1308103C&REV_02\4&2634EF39&0&00E5
Location Paths PCIROOT(0)#PCI(1C05)#PCI(0000)


IC Ensemble Delta-44 ------------------------------------------------------

[General Information]
Device Name: IC Ensemble Delta-44
Original Device Name: IC Ensemble/VIA ICE1712 Envy24
Device Class: Multimedia Audio Adapter
Revision ID: 2
PCI Address (Bus😀evice:Function) Number: 16:11:0
PCI Latency Timer: 32
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1412&DEV_1712&SUBSYS_D6331412&REV_02
[System Resources]
Interrupt Line: IRQ22
Interrupt Pin: INTA#
I/O Base Address 0 1140
I/O Base Address 1 1160
I/O Base Address 2 1170
I/O Base Address 3 1100
[Features]
Bus Mastering: Enabled
Running At 66 MHz: Not Capable
Fast Back-to-Back Transactions: Not Capable
[Driver Information]
Driver Manufacturer: M-Audio
Driver Description: M-Audio Delta 44
Driver Provider: M-Audio
Driver Version: 5.10.0.5078
Driver Date: 20-Dec-2011
DeviceInstanceId PCI\VEN_1412&DEV_1712&SUBSYS_D6331412&REV_02\4&7C12601&0&58F0
Location Paths PCIROOT(0)#PCI(1E00)#PCI(0B00)


Intel 82801IB ICH9 - SMBus Controller [A2] --------------------------------

[General Information]
Device Name: Intel 82801IB ICH9 - SMBus Controller [A2]
Original Device Name: Intel 82801IB ICH9 - SMBus Controller [A2]
Device Class: SMBus (System Management Bus)
Revision ID: 2 [A2]
PCI Address (Bus😀evice:Function) Number: 0:31:3
PCI Latency Timer: 0
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2930&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_02
[System Resources]
Interrupt Line: IRQ5
Interrupt Pin: INTC#
Memory Base Address 0 0
I/O Base Address 4 FC00
[Features]
Bus Mastering: Disabled
Running At 66 MHz: Not Capable
Fast Back-to-Back Transactions: Capable

Video Adapter -------------------------------------------------------------


NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti ------------------------------------------------

[Video Chipset]
Video Chipset: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
Video Chipset Codename: GP107-400
Video Memory: 4096 MBytes of GDDR5 SDRAM [Hynix]
[Video Card]
Video Card: GIGABYTE GTX 1050 Ti WindForce X2 OC (GV-N105TWF2OC-4GD)
Video Bus: PCIe v2.0 x16 (5.0 GT/s) @ x16 (2.5 GT/s)
GPU Type: Discrete
Video RAMDAC: Integrated RAMDAC
Video BIOS Version: 86.07.42.00.37 [UEFI]
Video Chipset Revision: A1
[Performance]
Graphics Processor Clock: 139.0 MHz
Video Unit Clock: 544.0 MHz
Graphics Memory Clock: 202.5 MHz (Effective 810.0 MHz)
Graphics Memory Bus Width: 128-bit
Number Of ROPs: 32
Number Of Unified Shaders: 768
Number Of TMUs (Texture Mapping Units): 48
ASIC Manufacturer: Samsung
ASIC Serial Number: 482483979716
NVIDIA SLI Status: Not Present
Resizable BAR (ReBAR) Support: Not Supported
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1C82&SUBSYS_37331458&REV_A1
PCI Location (Bus😀ev:Fnc): 1:00:0
[Driver Information]
Driver Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Driver Description: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
Driver Provider: NVIDIA
Driver Version: 30.0.14.7212 (GeForce 472.12)
Driver Date: 12-Sep-2021
DCH/UWD Driver: Not Capable
DeviceInstanceId PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1C82&SUBSYS_37331458&REV_A1\4&D5C2A06&0&0008
Location Paths PCIROOT(0)#PCI(0100)#PCI(0000)

Monitor -------------------------------------------------------------------
HP [Unknown Model: HPN378B] -----------------------------------------------

[General Information]
Monitor Name: HP [Unknown Model: HPN378B]
Monitor Name (Manuf): HP M24fe FHD
Serial Number: 3CM1180F39
Date Of Manufacture: Week: 18, Year: 2021
Monitor Hardware ID: Monitor\HPN378B
Max. Vertical Size: 30 cm
Max. Horizontal Size: 53 cm
Horizontal Frequency: 30 - 86 kHz
Vertical Frequency: 48 - 75 Hz
Maximum Pixel Clock: 180 MHz
[Advanced parameters]
Input Signal: Digital
Gamma Factor: 2.20
[DPMS Modes]
Standby: Not Supported
Suspend: Not Supported
Active Off: Supported
Standard Colour Space (sRGB) Default: Not Supported
Preferred Timing Mode: Supported
Default GTF (Continuous Frequency): Not Supported
DFP 1.x Compatible: No
[Supported Video Modes]
1920 x 1080 60 Hz
1600 x 900 60 Hz
1280 x 720 60 Hz
1680 x 1050 60 Hz
1440 x 900 60 Hz
1280 x 800 60 Hz
1280 x 1024 60 Hz
1920 x 1080 527 x 296 mm, Pixel Clock 148.50 MHz
[Driver Information]
Driver Manufacturer: (Standard monitor types)
Driver Description: Generic PnP Monitor
Driver Provider: Microsoft
Driver Version: 6.1.7600.16385
Driver Date: 20-Jun-2006
DeviceInstanceId DISPLAY\HPN378B\5&31759999&0&UID1048849

Drives --------------------------------------------------------------------


(S)ATA/ATAPI Drives -------------------------------------------------------


CT1000MX500SSD1 -----------------------------------------------------------

[General Information]
Drive Controller: Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 3Gb/s
Host Controller: IDE Channel
Drive Model: CT1000MX500SSD1
Drive Firmware Revision: M3CR045
Drive Serial Number: 2303E69F8614
World Wide Name: 500A751E69F8614
Drive Capacity: 953,869 MBytes (1000 GB)
Drive Capacity [MB]: 953869
Media Rotation Rate: SSD Drive (Non-rotating)
Nominal Form Factor: 2.5"
ATA Major Version Supported: ATA/ATAPI-5, ATA/ATAPI-6, ATA/ATAPI-7, ATA8-ACS, ACS-2, ACS-3
ATA Minor Version Supported: ACS-3 Revision 5
ATA Transport Version Supported: SATA 3.3
[Drive Geometry]
Number of Cylinders: 16383
Number of Heads: 16
Sectors Per Track: 63
Number of Sectors: 16514064
Total 48-bit LBA Sectors: 1953525168
Logical Sector Size: 512 Bytes
Cache Buffer Size: N/A
[Transfer Modes]
Sectors Per Interrupt: Total: 1, Active: 1
Max. PIO Transfer Mode: 4
Multiword DMA Mode: Total: 2, Active: 1
Singleword DMA Mode: Total: -, Active: -
Ultra-DMA Mode: Total: 6 (ATA-133), Inactive
Max. Multiword DMA Transfer Rate: 16.7 MBytes/s
Max. PIO with IORDY Transfer Rate: 16.7 MBytes/s
Max. PIO w/o IORDY Transfer Rate: 16.7 MBytes/s
Native Command Queuing: Supported, Max. Depth: 32
TRIM Command: Supported (Indeterminate Read After TRIM)
[

ST1000DM010-2EP102 --------------------------------------------------------

[General Information]
Drive Controller: Serial ATA 6Gb/s @ 3Gb/s
Host Controller: IDE Channel
Drive Model: Seagate ST1000DM010-2EP102
Drive Firmware Revision: 1001
Drive Serial Number: ZN1J741Q
World Wide Name: 5000C500C6FBDC0E
Drive Capacity: 953,869 MBytes (1000 GB)
Drive Capacity [MB]: 953869
Media Rotation Rate: 7200 RPM
Nominal Form Factor: 3.5"
ATA Major Version Supported: ATA/ATAPI-5, ATA/ATAPI-6, ATA/ATAPI-7, ATA8-ACS
ATA Minor Version Supported: ATA8-ACS version 4
ATA Transport Version Supported: SATA 3.0
[Drive Geometry]
Number of Cylinders: 16383
Number of Heads: 16
Sectors Per Track: 63
Number of Sectors: 16514064
Total 48-bit LBA Sectors: 1953525168
Logical Sector Size: 512 Bytes
Cache Buffer Size: N/A
[Transfer Modes]
Sectors Per Interrupt: Total: 16
Max. PIO Transfer Mode: 4
Multiword DMA Mode: Total: 2, Active: 2
Singleword DMA Mode: Total: -, Active: -
Ultra-DMA Mode: Total: 6 (ATA-133), Inactive
Max. Multiword DMA Transfer Rate: 16.7 MBytes/s
Max. PIO with IORDY Transfer Rate: 16.7 MBytes/s
Max. PIO w/o IORDY Transfer Rate: 16.7 MBytes/s
Native Command Queuing: Supported, Max. Depth: 32
TRIM Command: Not Supported


NVIDIA GP107 - High Definition Audio Controller ---------------------------

Audio Adapter: NVIDIA GP107 - High Definition Audio Controller
Audio Controller Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0FB9&SUBSYS_37331458&REV_A1
High Definition Audio Codec: nVidia
Audio Codec Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10DE&DEV_0080&SUBSYS_14583733&REV_1001
[Driver Information]
Driver Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Driver Description: NVIDIA High Definition Audio
Driver Provider: NVIDIA Corporation
Driver Version: 1.3.38.60
Driver Date: 02-May-2021
DeviceInstanceId HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10DE&DEV_0080&SUBSYS_14583733&REV_1001\5&1EE36A87&0&0001

IC Ensemble Delta-44 ------------------------------------------------------

Audio Adapter: IC Ensemble Delta-44
Audio Controller Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1412&DEV_1712&SUBSYS_D6331412&REV_02

Network -------------------------------------------------------------------


Broadcom BCM5755 NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express -------------------

[General Information]
Network Card: Broadcom BCM5755 NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
Vendor Description: Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet Driver
MAC Address: 00-23-7D-4C-9C-49
[Capabilities]
Maximum Link Speed: 1000 Mbps
Transmit Buffer Size: 302800 Bytes
Receive Buffer Size: 302800 Bytes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_14E4&DEV_167B&SUBSYS_1308103C&REV_02
[Driver Information]
Driver Manufacturer: Broadcom
Driver Description: Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet
Driver Provider: Microsoft Corporation
Driver Version: 10.100.4.0
Driver Date: 25-Apr-2009
DeviceInstanceId PCI\VEN_14E4&DEV_167B&SUBSYS_1308103C&REV_02\4&2634EF39&0&00E5
Location Paths PCIROOT(0)#PCI(1C05)#PCI(0000)

 

[Petros_K]

I have 100mbps connection as well, through Xfinity/Comcast, and have no issues on any of the systems I own or am working on, even with older integrated graphics and even on the test bench where they are running off slower WiFi and not Ethernet like my primary system.

What model is your CPU? How much memory is installed? Have you actually tried watching anything at the desired settings? Tried a different cable? Has to be something else going on if it's not working because there is literally no reason that 1050 ti should not be able to stream 1080p Youtube videos if I can do so with a 10 year old APU with only integrated graphics.

CPU is a Intel Core 2 Duo 8400 @ 3.00 GHz

Installed memory: 8 GB

Of course I have tried to watch a YouTube video at 1080p, and I noticed the poor performance and that's why I started this thread after doing some research.

I only have one cable, but it doesn't appear to be faulty.

You say:

there is literally no reason that 1050 ti should not be able to stream 1080p Youtube videos

But there is apparently becasue all GPUs can't decode the vp9 codec that Youtube is using for HD streaming. Still not sure about whether the GTX 1050 Ti can decode this or not becasue the list linked above has it listed twice, and under the vp9 column is both a yes and a no. Maybe it means some models can and some can't? I just know switching to this card made no difference on my system. Still lots of stalling at 1080p, especially at 60 fps.

 

[Darkbreeze]

CPU is a Intel Core 2 Duo 8400 @ 3.00 GHz

THAT, is your problem. The graphics card is not the problem, the whole rest of the system is. It's simply WAY too old to handle modern APIs and programs. I don't know for sure, off the top of my head, but I don't think that CPU will even run 64bit instruction sets of the newer type that are post-XP. I can't remember for sure, but regardless, I have two of those in a board in my shop cupboard and they simply won't run anything newer worth beans.

 

[BFG-9000]

Still not sure about whether the GTX 1050 Ti can decode this or not becasue the list linked above has it listed twice, and under the vp9 column is both a yes and a no. Maybe it means some models can and some can't?

I have already answered this. If you are using a browser as your player then you have to make sure hardware acceleration is enabled inside of it to make use of any GPU hardware. Same goes for any other player software.

CPU is a Intel Core 2 Duo 8400 @ 3.00 GHz

Installed memory: 8 GB

Closest is dual-core 2.4GHz E2220 or 3.33GHz E8600 which can both decode 1080p30 entirely in software without dropping frames:

The latter can even play 1080p60 VP9, and your processor is somewhere in-between. I should point out E8600 drops-in and is $12 shipped on eBay so cheaper than any GPU you would want.

It's a shame about the HP, as Core 2 overclocks like crazy to such an extent that you can even pad-mod a lower FSB processor to overclock in the HP without voltage adjustments. However the 1333FSB of your processor is already at the maximum supported FSB of your motherboard.

I don't know for sure, off the top of my head, but I don't think that CPU will even run 64bit instruction sets of the newer type that are post-XP.

I am running 64-bit Windows 11 on Core 2 and while slow, everything works fine.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Not legitimately you're not.

 

[Petros_K]

But guys, I can do Youtube videos at 1080p even 60 fps, but only when the codec is H.264. When the video is using vp9 forget about it. I use Firefox as a browser, and I tried the h264ify plugin, and it works for videos streaming with vp9. That was my point. It appear to be all about the codec and whether or not the GPU can decode it. I realize the CPU is also involved, but didn't think it was an issue because task manager didn't show CPU spiking.

I was going to purchase another video card, maybe the GeForce GTX 1630 as stated above, but seems like it may not matter if I'm using a PC with a Core 2 Duo 8600 @ 3.00 GHz?

I also did not have hardware acceleration enabled in Firefox. I had "Use recommended settings," and when you uncheck this it checks a box to use hardware acceleration. Videos with vp9 codec 1080p 60 fps still lag and stall.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Lagging and stalling are not the same thing as "can't play it" or " won't decode". Lagging and stalling are usually problems with the CPU, memory or storage device being too slow or lacking the proper chipset and other drivers. Honestly, anybody using a Core2duo for anything other than retro-hobby-ism just needs to realize that it's 15 years old and while it definitely CAN still have some usefulness, that usefulness is going to be very limited, so those users need to really start looking at options to move on to newer hardware.

 

[Petros_K]

Lagging and stalling are not the same thing as "can't play it" or " won't decode". Lagging and stalling are usually problems with the CPU, memory or storage device being too slow or lacking the proper chipset and other drivers. Honestly, anybody using a Core2duo for anything other than retro-hobby-ism just needs to realize that it's 15 years old and while it definitely CAN still have some usefulness, that usefulness is going to be very limited, so those users need to really start looking at options to move on to newer hardware.

I hear you. Just don't know what to move up to if I go with a different system.

And let me further clarify because I was mistaken above.

Today, maybe because I enabled hardware acceleration in Firefox, I was able to play this video in 1080p60fps running the vp9 codec.:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UawgHRhK7WI


I only got a slight stall maybe once every minute. Biggest stalling occurs if I move my mouse, and I can see with task manager CPU usage goes into the 90s. But the stalling stops when I stop moving the mouse.

--so yes the GTX 1050 Ti can indeed decode the vp9 codec. It's performance on my PC seems to be degraded by the Core 2 Duo 8600 @ 3.00 GHz CPU.

Thanks guys for helping me discover this. I would have spent money on another video card when it's probably better spent on upgrading my system.

I should also mention I've got a 50" Class CU7000D Crystal UHD 4K Smart TV
1080p looks great. But to actually stream 4k on it, what kind of CPU does my PC require?

 

[Darkbreeze]

Anything from the last few generations of either Intel or AMD is a fine choice to pair with that graphics card especially since gaming is not your priority.

What country are you in and what can you reasonably afford to throw at an upgrade? Keep in mind, you are going to need a new CPU, motherboard AND memory, because there is nothing you can upgrade to really using your existing motherboard or memory that would make it even remotely worth throwing the money away on.

 

[Petros_K]

Anything from the last few generations of either Intel or AMD is a fine choice to pair with that graphics card especially since gaming is not your priority.

What country are you in and what can you reasonably afford to throw at an upgrade? Keep in mind, you are going to need a new CPU, motherboard AND memory, because there is nothing you can upgrade to really using your existing motherboard or memory that would make it even remotely worth throwing the money away on.

Can you be more specific about "the last few generations of Intel or AMD" CPUs?

I'd likely find a refurbished or used system on Ebay. That's where I got my HP Workstation and it's been solid and reliable.

 

[Darkbreeze]

So, I mean, literally any i3, i5 or i7 from the 8th Gen through the 13th Gen (Coffee lake, Coffee lake refresh, Comet lake, Rocket lake, Alder lake, Raptor lake) or any Ryzen 3, Ryzen 5 or Ryzen 7 from the 3000 through 7000 series (Zen2, Zen3, Zen4) would be MILES better than what you have now. Preferably a model with at least four cores and four hyperthreads, or better.

As I said before, if you don't mind sharing what region you're in and what you can afford to throw at a board, CPU and memory, I'd be glad to see what might be available and a good option out there. You might be surprised how cheaply you can get into a very modern system, new, compared to what they are asking for a lot of hardware that's years old and used on Ebay, but we can look there as well.

I mean, something like this puts you like MAGNITUDES ahead of where you are now, for a relatively small investment, all things considered.



For example, this would give you modern capabilities when it comes to support newer technologies, and you'd gain like 105% single core performance and roughly an 830% increase in multithreaded performance. It would literally be like adding the capabilities of like another 8 Core2Duo processors to what yours is able to do now. And actually, that's probably being far too reserved about it. But suffice to say, something like this would greatly increase your capabilities, would be all new hardware WITH warranty and would allow you to run pretty much anything that's out there right now including codecs, APIs and any Windows version up to Windows 11 if you chose to.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 4100 3.8 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($62.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B550M-HDV Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($75.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($36.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $175.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-13 15:12 EDT-0400





Or, if you prefer Intel, you could do something like this.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i3-12100F 3.3 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($92.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B760M-HDV/M.2 D4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($92.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($36.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $222.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-08-13 15:22 EDT-0400

 

[Petros_K]

Anything wrong with something like an HP 800 G4 Workstation with a Intel Core i7-8700 CPU?

Tom's Hardware here actually has an article about this PC. Looks like it would do the job.

HP EliteDesk 800 G4 Tower – Specs and upgrade options

Read about HP EliteDesk 800 G4 Tower desktop PC. Find detailed specification, upgrade options, and info about the CPU, RAM, PSU, motherboard, and release date

www.hardware-corner.net

 

[Darkbreeze]

For how much, and again,where are you located? I don't give a tin crap about where you are from, nor does anybody else, it only matters because of what hardware is available and for what price, regardless of where anybody is from.

 

[Petros_K]

Well if it matters that much, I'm in the USA, New Mexico. Still not clear why it's so important to anyone.

Found a system on Ebay as mentioned above, an HP 800 G4 Workstation with a Intel Core i7-8700 CPU and16 GB RAM. Total cost after taxes and shipping: $170 And to be clear, I'm okay with swapping parts in a system, but not the CPU. I also don't want to build a system from parts. I have no experience doing that and I'm just trying to be able to stream HD from Youtube at 1080p and hopefully 4K too when available.

Really appreciate the help and advice above.

 

[Darkbreeze]

It matters because how can anybody make realistic recommendations to anybody if they don't know where they are? Somebody, for example, in Poland, is NOT going to have the same remedies available because the hardware availability there, and MANY regions, is fricking terrible. If you can't GET good hardware, it's hard to fix a problem that is due to poor hardware, IF it is.

Then again, maybe I don't know squat.

 

[Petros_K]

It matters because how can anybody make realistic recommendations to anybody if they don't know where they are? Somebody, for example, in Poland, is NOT going to have the same remedies available because the hardware availability there, and MANY regions, is fricking terrible...

Okay understood.

Looking to possibly not use the GTX 1050 but instead go with a similar card that doesn't require 6 or 8 pin power adapter but that has about the same power. Not sure yet if the PSU in the HP 800 G4 Workstation is 500 watts (as the Tom's Hardware article says) or is it actually only 250 watts.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Well, for 170 dollars I guess it's an ok deal however you need to realize that it not only uses parts that are already six years old, but that you're getting used parts, when you could be getting brand new parts that were released only a year or two ago and have full warranties, for only a few bucks more. Now, I understand if the problem is that you don't feel comfortable with swapping out the parts and of course since it's an HP there's every chance that it could be a proprietary form factor which would mean that standard aftermarket parts wouldn't fit in as replacements but looking at the specifications for that HP xw4600 system that you have it looks like it's a standard ATX board so it should be ok.

But, an i7-8700 IS a decent step up from what you have now, would definitely give you the capability to do what you are looking to do and is much newer than your current setup, but it seems like a waste of money to me when you could have something six years newer for around the same price. I guess that's a call you have to make though.

 

[Petros_K]

Since I'm not okay with assembling a whole new system and don't really have the skills for it, best deal I could find on Ebay under $200 was a system with an Core i7 8700, 16 MB DDR4 RAM, and Windows 10 Pro (which I need because I'm using 7). Gotta look at the whole package Hopefully PSU is 500 watts. Should arrive tomorrow.

Interesting too is there seems to be a jump in price in anything 8th generation Intel CPU or higher. Lots of 7th generation PCs available much cheaper. The i7 8700 has 6 physical cores compared to 4 with the i7 7700. Again, figured it can do the job, but needed more than just a better CPU so looking at the whole system.

BTW used parts? I have been using a HP Workstation that was "refurbished" when I bought it and for almost ten years now! Served me well, and was upgraded many times. Check the ad from Ebay in 2014: