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Ack your right. And yea the fan is obviously moving. <notes to self: you're not good at noticing the obvious apesoccer...>

F@H:
AMD: [64 3000+][2500+][2000+ down][1.3x2][366]
Intel: [X 3.0x3][P4 3.0x2][P4 2.4x5 down][P4 1.4]

"...and i'm not gay" RX8 -Greatest Quote of ALL Time
 
settle! =D

Deep breaths, he's just mess'n with ya, don't let him get to you.

F@H:
AMD: [64 3000+][2500+][2000+ down][1.3x2][366]
Intel: [X 3.0x3][P4 3.0x2][P4 2.4x5 down][P4 1.4]

"...and i'm not gay" RX8 -Greatest Quote of ALL Time
 
I think as a "STRESS TEST" the Intel "system" has performed poorly, e.g. several reboots and the need to change, remove, replace several components. This shows me the as far as being able to handle the STRESS and to be a "stable" system they have a long way to go.
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Do you realise the Intel test system is running on a new board release that incorporates new mobo chips, etc. The AMD system is using older items that are way out of beta stage.

I would sack an IT staff member if they purchased an AMD system on these results, and I hope others would too. Very poor results for a top end system!

The Intel system is a better multitasker and also has a better upgrade path due to all the latest sockets and standards, PCIe, BTX, DDR2, etc...

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Well, I would sack you if you were in my IT staff. or staff in general. Not even mopping floors, and I seriously mean that.

You're talking about beta-bords and all that [-peep-], of course it's beta. It's way too early to test stability at this stage, because of new chipsets, new beta-bioses, all that stuff. But the test isn't unfair, becuase the AMD has beta-bios as well.
 
Nothing here is beta. Everything here will last about the same amount of time (both companies will adopt DDR3 or XDRAM next, both have PCIe and AMD doesn't need BTX in the slightest [BTX was designed for Intel's heat problems]).

The only thing here that Intel might keep longer is their socket, but when they make you buy a new board for every major CPU upgrade (single ot dual core in this case), what's the difference?

As for firing the IT guy, are you kidding? Yeah, he went AMD because the Intel overheats itself, its board and likely other surrounding components. Yeah, GREAT reason to fire him! You'd be fired by your boss next. He did something logical. If nothing else, IT requires uptime.

Maxtor disgraces the six letters that make Matrox.
 
This hardware is not beta in the least. The BIOSes are debatably beta on both sides....I'm actually not sure as I don't follow ASUS's or Gigabyte's BIOSes as closely as others (DFI mainly, which has complete non-beta support for X2).

Maxtor disgraces the six letters that make Matrox.
 
But Vapor, what you're obviously missing here...is THE WHOLE POINT! As an IT professional, it's your job to fix problems! If you're not "fixing" the intel computer every day, then where is your job security...come on man, get with it.

F@H:
AMD: [64 3000+][2500+][2000+ down][1.3x2][366]
Intel: [X 3.0x3][P4 3.0x2][P4 2.4x5 down][P4 1.4]

"...and i'm not gay" RX8 -Greatest Quote of ALL Time
 
Got me there. :tongue:

Yeah, I'd be all over these Intels for job security if I were in IT.

Maxtor disgraces the six letters that make Matrox.
 
<sarcasm>True, true. If we want jobs as IT professionals, we must kill AMD. Everyone, buy intel cpu's now, otherwise, we won't be needed in the future...</sarcasm>
 
Crapola, my 30 min are up...guess i lost the bet...erm money is in the mail =D. It may take a little while to get there...but be patient.

F@H:
AMD: [64 3000+][2500+][2000+ down][1.3x2][366]
Intel: [X 3.0x3][P4 3.0x2][P4 2.4x5 down][P4 1.4]

"...and i'm not gay" RX8 -Greatest Quote of ALL Time
 
BTX standard isn't just to reduce heat, it's also to hinder noise. The AMD X2 is like a hover craft with those fan speeds, so in time AMD will also adopt BTX to keep customers.

But at the moment AMD yet again hold the market back by denying the benefits of new technology. AMD could have said yes we will go BTX on the new chip rabge, but they didn't.

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Well, I would rather lika a hovercraft than a blast furnace. Just look at the heat of that thing, poor technichians, guess they're naked in there...

Thank God for thermal trottling, or else, we would have a fire in Munich by noon.
 
BTX standard isn't just to reduce heat, it's also to hinder noise. The AMD X2 is like a hover craft with those fan speeds, so in time AMD will also adopt BTX to keep customers.
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Simply untrue. It is designed to reduce the heat with current cooling solutions with channeled cooling (or the ability to do so, like in the SS Temjin with the tube). As for the X2 noise, it's the same cooler on the FX, which, rest assured, is much quieter than my stock Northwood B cooler (copper insert or not, I have both).

Maxtor disgraces the six letters that make Matrox.
 
The X2 fan isn't loud, why do you listen to him and just take his word for it? I bet he's never even been in the same room as an FX, it's probably sacregiligious to those crazy Intelliots.

Maxtor disgraces the six letters that make Matrox.
 
But at the moment AMD yet again hold the market back by denying the benefits of new technology. AMD could have said yes we will go BTX on the new chip rabge, but they didn't.
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Like the time that AMD hold the market back by not using RAMBUS memory.

If there is a possibility of several things going wrong, the one thath will go wrong first will be the one that will do the most possible damage
 
AMD could go to BTX, but why would they? That's money not well spent for them. They don't need the better cooling. It would only make things difficult in the arrangement of the RAM slots because of the ODMC (which Intel, by all means, should put into Yonah or something).

Maxtor disgraces the six letters that make Matrox.
 
Yeah, I'm going to stop posting too for now, as I seemt o be upsetting too many people that wont see the facts.

As you can all see the AMD is refusing yet again the heavy-task and will lead in the liter-tasks. At the start when it was doing all, it was losing in all.

Thom, can you please ask AMD developer to comment on this CPU FAULT as it's clearly a bad customer choice. Could AMD have designed the CPU to win small benchmarks so as to win over those that can't read the deeper meanings in results?

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If anyone cares, here are the numbers I jotted down before the reset.

AMD 474 cds 3957 archives 2324 runs 110 dvds
Intel 345 cds 1845 archives 1576 runs 1660 dvds
 
Its not AMD or intel that adopt (or dont) BTX; its oems, motherboard vendors and case vendores. They don't adopt BTX even for intel cpu's, because they think it stinks. But no one is stopping Asus or HP or whomever from producing AMD based BTX board and systems if they think it gives them any advantage whatsoever, its a free market. If no one wants it, no one produces it, no one buys it.. there is probably a good reason.

= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my wife. =
 
Thanks for taking those down...I was trying to go back into my cache but it wasn't there.

Very interesting numbers as those take into account the Intel crashes. Those are the real numbers to look at as this version has only gone for a couple hours at most and there's no evidence of anything yet (other than Intel is running really fu<b></b>cking hot!!!).

Maxtor disgraces the six letters that make Matrox.
 
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