Stutter in games...caused by an SSD? or OC?

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olegpetrov1416

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Sup guys!
Good afternoon!

I have a question about very exotic thing (exotic to me)

I have a very strange problem - stuttering in open world games (all of them):
GTA V
Watch Dogs 2
AC: Origins
Fallout 4
which is ok, i know stutter can be caused by anything, but I tried to limit FPS to 30 or 40 and stutter was gone 😵 But all these games can be played above 60FPS on High-Ultra settings

But games like BF1, Overwatch and games without open worlds run silky smooth.

Can a SSD cause stutter? And how do I test it, if it`s the cause?

ok, the specs:
i7 4770k OC 4.4 Ghz (1.188 core votage) (MAX TEMP at AIDA stress is 72-75 C with Noctua air cooler)
16 GB RAM, 1600Hz HX318C9SRK2/16, XMP profile 2
GTX 1070 G1 GIGABYTE OC 2025 Mhz core clock (drops to 2010 sometimes), 2125 Mhz memory clock, volage 1081 mv - max temp is 65 C (air)
SSD Plextor 128 GB (2013 year) - System SSD, there used to be a 8 GB pagefile since 2013, but I checked It`s health and its fine 3 TB were written since the start if using
HDD TOSHIBA 2TB (2013 year) - works perfectly fine, not so many writes since 2013
SSD Samsung Evo 850 512 GB (2018) - gaming SSD
Win 7 x64
Monitor BENQ 144Hz (i`m playing at 120 Hz as it`s recommended)
PSU 800 Wt.

Can you pls advice me some soft for monitoring the cause? because I`m lost...I don`t know Check SSD (samsung) with AIDA linear and random reads - no spikes. I don`t understand. I don`t know maybe 60 FPS is not
 
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I guess no need for that the cause was very old windows, yesterday I`ve installed win 10 on second ssd (logic partition GPT) and the stutter reduced I was not completly gone, but far better now in fallout 4 and batman arkham knight, theres very little stutter
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Good that it wasn't hardware issues. Windows should be good up to 2 years without issues. How old was it exactly?

If you're still wondering about your SSD health, any disk health monitoring software should be able to do it.
https://mashtips.com/ssd-health-test-and-performance-monitor-tools/

Also, I read the entire thread but you still haven't exactly defined the stutters you're talking about. A short video would be nice. A gif could help too.
 
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I was about to say if it wasn't the windows 7 or windows itself, it would most likely be a video cable. I was using a old gold plated HDMI cable and was getting very inconsistent frametimes. Soon as i switched it for a high speed HDMI cable the micro stutter was gone. Sometimes it's the most simple things. It's always easiest to start with 3 most common things. With this issue being VIDEO.
 
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I was getting this issue last week. Also my 3DMark score went down pretty badly. Tried everything, uninstalling drivers with ddu, different driver versions, disable programs, everything... The only thing that worked was restore Windows 10 (like starting the system fresh, like formatting but without all the hassle.

After I did this everything got back to normal.
 
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What likely happened here is some REALLY OLD HDMI cables won't support HDMI 2.0. So you won't get the refresh rates/framerates that the monitor and GPU are capable of.
 
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Change the ram it's 1600 mhz change it and get g skill tridenz 3000 mhz or g skill ripjaws 2400 mhz ithen it will not stutter
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Just tell him to buy a new PC with MB, RAM, CPU and other parts each time he gets a problem.
What likely happened here is some REALLY OLD HDMI cables won't support HDMI 2.0. So you won't get the refresh rates/framerates that the monitor and GPU are capable of.
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Seriously though. Stutters can be caused by anything from windows, OC, cable, throttling, bottleneck, corrupt/bad game, SSD/HDD and many others.
Other than a one by one test of everything, it's very hard to pinpoint it out. And the graphs showed nothing concrete.
The three people I helped recently fixed it by 1. Removing OC 2. Reinstalling windows 3. Overvolting GPU slightly. Don't know what's causing his issue.
 
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sorry bor being absent, GTA V now run perfectly smooth on Win10, fallout 4 will stutter only when you sprint on not straight surfaces...only game that driving nuts me now is Arkham Knight, I beat it on ps4 then picked it up for PC for 60 FPS and gameworks and when driving or gliding it`s killing me, it`s not that bad to get some miliseconds freezes, but POP-In textures, man...or the lag sometimes, when indoors silky smooth - that was on SSD Samsung with read 540/350/390/44 (benchmark file sizes) MB/s read speeds/

As for HDD, Witcher 3 or FFXV freeze for a slight moment when in Witcher you meet monsters or enemies and they draw swords. But Still Win10 is working far better with games then my 2013 Win7. I`ll provide videos comprassions later so you can see the trouble. Cheers!
 
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Sure, I`ll PM you my bank account number and will be waiting for some dough from you to buy new stuff.
 
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I will say Arkham Knight is KNOWN for being poorly optimized so I wouldn't sweat that one. But sure share some videos we would be happy to take a look.
 
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already uploading, Arkham Knight nteresting beast...as soon as I put a 36fps (smoother on my monitor) stutter is gone 😵 But with 60 it`s there, even with unlocked frame rate it`s there. You will see, also pls check telemetry on SSD (AK will be in window mode with winfows 10 monitor app)
 
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So here you go...Blue telemetry - win 10, Yellow - win 7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRF9ORymE44&feature=youtu.be
also pls check telemetry on SSD (AK will be in window mode with winfows 10 monitor app) also win 10 I run game with 36, 60 locks and then unlocked, the heaviest lag street on Miagani Island
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7DByO_1-GA&feature=youtu.be
fallout 4 win 7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwP47MXCQT0&feature=youtu.be
Fallout win 10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56LVbtd85Co&feature=youtu.be
 
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I have to be honest I don't see anything you are mentioning. Also Your Win 10 Arkham Knight test you will always have issues windowed, the game needs to run fullscreen.

 
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i must be too sensetive to microstutter (years of Quake 3 and UT 2004 tought me that any milisecond hitch is bad) so as for SSD activity on win10 AK is it ok? Not low usage...1-5% top is it okay?
But what about Fallout 4 Win 7 vs Win 10? Dont you see hitches on Win7?
 
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A little bit on Win 7. But why even bother with Win 7. Windows 10 is what you need for best performance for that system.

SSD activity is fine there is nothing wrong.
 
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phew...thank you! See you on the forums. Cheers!
 
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