Question System only gives display signal with 1 ram stick, but I'd like to use more ?

junabug2

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I was having constant crash issues during cyberpunk and elden ring sessions so I decided to replace the mobo, cpu, and ram.

But during setup I could only get it to boot up into bios about 1 in every 5 attempts... and not at all if using all of the ram.

Are there compatibility issues with my cpu and ram or something? Can anyone help me figure out the issue?

To clarify, the system posts but only sometimes provides a signal at all. Usually, it either just remains on no signal or, best case scenario, will boot into safe mode and ask me to go into bios and specify a boot drive. Thats the closest to acting normally I can get, and that only happens when theres only 1 dimm installed.

AMD Ryzen 5 7600x​

ASUS TUF Gaming B650-E WiFi​

x2 CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6400MHz​

Zotac 3070 ti​

Sabrent 2tb m.2​

Samsung 970 evo 2tb m.2​

 
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x2 CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6400MHz
Got a link to this ram kit? Rams populating slots A2 and B2? How are you cooling the processor? Perhaps try and reduce the mounting pressure on your CPU cooler and see if the issue is alleviated.

ASUS TUF Gaming B650-E WiFi
BIOS version for your motherboard?

so I decided to upgrade about half of my PC, reusing the gpu, tower, psu, and all previous storage drives.
So you recycled the OS drive? If so, you're advise to reinstall the OS after recreating your bootable USB installer and installing the OS in offline mode. Installing the rest of your drivers while in offline mode as well.
 
I'll loosen the cooler this afternoon, thanks for the suggestion.

Yes, the ram are seated in proper order (+ same issue happens when all 4 are populated)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BXHC74WD?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title <- heres the link

as for heatsink, the traditional coolermaster hyper 212

bios version is.... i'll figure that out when i restart to loosen the heatsink a bit.

I didnt actually recycle it that windows version (i think you mean have it just attempt to fix the previous installation right?) so much as formatted the OS drive and used a fresh windows 11 installer tool via USB.
 
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x2 CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB DDR5 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 6400MHz
Got a link to this ram kit? Rams populating slots A2 and B2? How are you cooling the processor? Perhaps try and reduce the mounting pressure on your CPU cooler and see if the issue is alleviated.

ASUS TUF Gaming B650-E WiFi
BIOS version for your motherboard?

so I decided to upgrade about half of my PC, reusing the gpu, tower, psu, and all previous storage drives.
So you recycled the OS drive? If so, you're advise to reinstall the OS after recreating your bootable USB installer and installing the OS in offline mode. Installing the rest of your drivers while in offline mode as well.

Loosened my heatsink a little bit, no change. I could loosen it a little bit more I suppose.

Bios version: American Megatrends Inc. 3042, 9/30/24
SMbios: 3.6

I tried to update it with a usb tool with the flash bios button on the back of the motherboard, but that didnt seem to work. Maybe I did something wrong? Is it updateable from inside windows with software?
 
Remove both drives and see if you can get to bios with both ram installed.

Bios flashing using motherboard button usually requires renaming the bios file. There should be instructions in manual or online, ie how to flashback on Asus motherboards. If you can get into bios you'd be better off using ezflash utility there instead.

You may need to inspect cpu socket for bent pins.
 
If you're running your RAM ar 6400MT/s, it may be too fast for the 7600X which is "guaranteed" up to 5200MT/s. Try switching off XMP/EXPO/DOCP memory overclocking if it's enabled and return to the stock JEDEC speed of 4800MT/s. You might find your system works fine at 6000MT/s, but not 6400MT/s.
https://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Zen/AMD-Ryzen 5 7600X.html

Integrated peripherals / components
Memory controller
Memory channels (total): 2
Supported memory: DDR5-5200
ECC supported: Yes

If only one of the CPU's two Integrated Memory Controller channels (A and B) is working, this would explain why you have problems with RAM in both channels. e.g. in slots A2 and B2 (or in A1 and B1).

Bent contacts in the CPU socket may be associated with one of the IMCs (A or B) and DIMMs might only work in the A slots or the B slots, but not in both.

For Dual Channel mode (higher bandwidth), you need pairs of identical DIMMs in both channels, i.e. A2 and B2 (preferred) or A1 and B1, or fill all four slots. With RAM in the A slots only, or in the B slots only, you'll be running in Single Channel mode (slower bandwidth).

Flexing of the motherboard around the CPU socket (due to overtightening the four cooler screws) can sometimes affect the connections between the CPU and DIMM sockets. Do not loosen the cooler screws too much otherwise cooling performance may be reduced. There's a happy medium.

I tried to update it with a usb tool with the flash bios button on the back of the motherboard, but that didnt seem to work.
I'd hold off reflashing the mobo BIOS if the current version supports your CPU, unless your mobo supports flashing with the CPU and all RAM removed. If your system isn't 100% stable during flashing and has a tendency to crash, you're tempting fate with a BIOS update.

I don't like "blind" flashing with no CPU or RAM present, preferring reassuring messages on the monitor screen during updates. If the BIOS update goes wrong mid way, you can end up "bricking" the mobo, i.e. it becomes as much use as a house brick if the update goes wrong.

Maybe I did something wrong? Is it updateable from inside windows with software?
I normally update the BIOS from within itself, by pressing the Del key (or F1, F2) immediately after switch on, then searching inside the BIOS for the Tools section. This usually displays a list of all the drives attached to the mobo, including the USB memory stick with a valid BIOS file.

You select the BIOS file from the memory stick and the utility uses the information to overwrite the old BIOS. Takes two to three minutes on most machines. I can't remember ever having updated the BIOS from inside Windows, preferring less things getting in the way. In the old days, I updated the BIOS from bootable floppies and the DOS prompt.

Some people dislike using Corsair Vengeance with AMD CPUs, but I've got four 16GB DDR4 DIMMs running happily with a 3800X.

Your problem may simply be trying to run the RAM too fast, if you're using the Auto XMP/EXPO/DOCP setting on the mobo.

With DDR5 in a new setup, it can take several minutes before "RAM training" is complete. You might think the system is not responding, but in fact it just hasn't finished training. Best bet is to start off with the RAM at 4800MT/s (no XMP overclock),

Be careful when fitting four DDR5 DIMMs. You may have to reduce the XMP/EXPO/DOCP setting. In extreme cases, the BIOS might select something slower than 4800MT/s to ensure stability, e.g. 4200 or 3800MT/s. Two DDR5 DIMMs can usually be clocked faster than four DIMMs.