Question System upgrade. GPU and CPU combo options ?

explainitlikeimanidiot

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Hey all.

Been a while since my last upgrade. Just before pandemic sent everything prices bonkers.

Current set up
Phanteks P400 with P400A front panel (top and bottom vents from P400. intake 1 x 120 side (custom install in plastic panel), 2x 140 front, exhaust 2x 120 rear
MSI B550 Gaming Edge WIFI
Ryzen 3600x running 4.4 all cores 1.085v. (not sure how I clocked it, but it runs .550 up to 4.400 and will hold all cores stable at that voltage)> got this to 4.650 on all cores stable at factory voltage when testing for overclocks.
Be Quiet Dark Rock 2 TF
Crucial ballistix 2 x 8gb 3600 DDR4 at 3800 16,19,16,36
Gigabyte Gaming oc 5600 xt, with the updated bios.
Samsung 500gb PM961 NVMe x4 drive
Kingston 500gb SATA 6 Gb/s drive
Super Flower Leadex Gold 650w

I have bought a Crucial P3 Plus SSD 1TB M.2 NVMe PCIe Gen4
Looking for another 2x8gb ballistix 3600

Pretty much mostly RPGs, with starfield and Baulders gate being on my shopping list, the system is starting to show its age. I do alot of replays though, DA series, ME series, Deus Ex all being games I have tons of hours and replays in.

Question is CPU/GPU combo

Budget wise, I'd like to stick with a RX 6750 XT for £300, but is it worth getting a 7700xt for £360 (looks like a good deal atm?) with the 3600x? I can get a 7800 xt for £430, but it just sticks in my throat to spend that sort of money on a GPU. Used market is pretty much too dear to be worth bothering. I'd rather pay the extra £50 and have new. If it were a £100 saving, yep, but they are few and far between.
If I push the budget for a newer cpu, these options give a balanced cost. Prefer to stick with just GPU cost at moment and £360 for the 7700 xt is really as strong as I'd like to lay out right now.
3600x + RX7800 XT £450
5600x + RX7700 XT £460
5700X3D + RX 6750 XT £480

Not an AMD fanboy as such, when they are just better value for me, that's what I buy. Had Intel and Nvidia, because they were the better value at the time.
4060 ti is dearer than 7700 xt, 4070 is dearer than 7800xt where I am.

Open to opinions and both green and red options.


MSI Optix G24 1080 monitor, 75hz refresh. last upgrade on this platform. No plans for monitor upgrade while this one keeps working

Thanks people.
 
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RPG games tend to be largely single threaded.
Upgrade the cpu first and see how you do.
Try this simple test:
Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
This makes the graphics card loaf a bit.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

A 5800X would give you a nice boost without any hassle.

Ryzen is picky about ram compatibility.
Mismatched ram is a crap shoot.
If there is any pervasive problem with ryzen that I see on these forums it is ram issues.

Replace your current 2 x 8gb with a 2 , 16gb ram kit if you need more ram.
Keep the old ram as a spare or sell it.
Verify that the kit you buy is supported on your motherboard ram QVL list for your processor.
Or, is explicitly supported by the vendor ram selection app.

Then, you can consider graphics upgrades.
Make it a good jump or you may be disappointed if you don't see magical results.
Tom's gpu hierarchy chart will help:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html
I think 7600XT or better.
 

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Thanks all.

I've ordered a RX 7700 XT Sapphire Pulse, as Amazon have them down to £340.
As said above, it feels like the last CPU upgrade on this mobo, so I'll wait for Black Friday and hopefully get a 5700x3d, or see what all the fuss is about with the 5500x3d? With this in mind, I'll hold fire on ram for now too. Same deal, hopefully get a decent Black Friday deal and it looks like the x3d CPU's are just fine on lower spec ram. (e.g. doesn't warrant spending 50% more for 3800 C16 vs 3200 C16.

Again,
Thanks
 
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Thanks all.

I've ordered a RX 7700 XT Sapphire Pulse, as Amazon have them down to £340.
As said above, it feels like the last CPU upgrade on this mobo, so I'll wait for Black Friday and hopefully get a 5700x3d, or see what all the fuss is about with the 5500x3d? With this in mind, I'll hold fire on ram for now too. Same deal, hopefully get a decent Black Friday deal and it looks like the x3d CPU's are just fine on lower spec ram. (e.g. doesn't warrant spending 50% more for 3800 C16 vs 3200 C16.

Again,
Thanks
Nice, even with your current CPU you should still get a nice performance upgrade out of that RX 7700 XT, then when you get a 5700X3D and the extra RAM you should be good to go for a few more years.