Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

[qurious69ss]

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Berlind/?p=412

Wasn't Richards complaining about this a few weeks ago????

 

[halbhh]

Well, so far as I know, both companies have been carefully using the more favorable benchmarks every time I checked for as long as I can remember. I admit I only check about 6-7 times over the last few years, but it was enough to see that pattern. This isn't exactly new....

Just the same, kudos to the writer for trying to hold them to a higher standard (both companies -- see the link to the article on the 16th with an interesting graphic) .... than either company has ever lived up to. I won't hold my breath waiting for them to!

This is, btw, *is* part of the reason Intel is around $19 during the moment of their triumph! It's another instance of not that much credibility. The stock market is very accustomed to a lot of hype from Intel. For AMD to follow suit is perhaps a shame. Better to emulate Intel in *other* ways!

 

[Gneisenau]

It's bad enough to use outdated benchmarks. But, it's a whole nother thing to gripe about someone else doing it while you do it yourself.

 

[halbhh]

yeah, and they both do that as long as I can remember also. I'd be astounded if there was a year where one company did not do exactly that.

 

[Eviltwin17]

hahaha i guess sometimes you gotta fight fire with fire

 

[BaronMatrix]

After 20 years of Intel's "tactics".....

 

[gOJDO]

This has been posted and discussed already.
AMD == Intel == same $h1+

 

[dasickninja]

After 20 years of Intel's "tactics".....

Now that certainly is bullshit.

"Two wrongs don't make a right and you can expect us to continue to stay true".

http://good-times.webshots.com/video/3074685970099776711cGSIoM

The fact of the matter is, you don't open your mouth to call someone on something when you do the same thing. This "after 20 years" and "they're the little guy" shtick is in the same category as saying, "Because they stole from me, I'll steal from them".

 

[epsilon84]

After 20 years of Intel's "tactics".....

AMD can do no wrong it seems.

"But he punched me first!" :lol:

 

[baligavinod]

It's bad enough to use outdated benchmarks. But, it's a whole nother thing to gripe about someone else doing it while you do it yourself.

very true

 

[CaptRobertApril]

amd is run by a bunch of clowns

Nah. There's a big difference. You can fit 34 clowns in an old VW bug. Only one AMD exec per limo. :lol:

 

[jamiepotter]

Great video.

I'm not sure it is obviously hypocritical. Let me give you a parallel, and then I'll leave it up to everyone else to see if there is any good comparison.

Let us suppose you are a professional footballer, and you've been on record as saying that professional footballers shouldn't dive. Time and time again, you've watched players like Didier Drogba get penalties and free kicks by diving, and they just keep getting away with it. You keep on saying how something should be done about diving, and yet nothing happens or looks likely to. No one is going to change the rules of football, no understanding between players is going to come about, and managers turn a blind eye to it.

So in the end, you just decide to start diving yourself, because you're sick of losing crucial games to people who cheat, basically. You continue to call on everyone to stop diving, but so long as other players do, you don't see why they should get an unfair advantage.

1) Does this make you a hypocrite? I have to say that my intuition is that it does not, the principle reason being that you'd be happy to instantly give up all diving once you were sure that the kind of institutions and procedures were in place to ensure that diving didn't pay.
2) Is there any analogy at all between this and the AMD case?

 

[dasickninja]

It doesn't exactly make you a hypocrite, by technical definition. AMD (or Intel by extension if the situation is spun) can not be called hypocrites since the exact definition of hypocrite,

hypocrite - a person who professes beliefs and opinions that he does not hold

is hard to prove when talking about a billion dollar chip maker. What is does make you is a beguiler,

beguiler - someone who leads you to believe something that is not true.

which is more of an accurate description of what AMD and Intel (and all their fanboys [note: should we start saying the politically correct fanpeople?]) do.

Still a poignant analogy though.

It was in contention as to whether the issue was actually unethical or plain illegal. But the fact remains that both Intel and AMD are wrong for doing this. AMD though, has to take a measure of blame by talking out of both sides of their mouth.

To me, its a piss on my leg and tell me its raining situation. I'm a bit more apt to trust AMD's benchmarks (and I don't mean slides either, I mean the real damn thing) than Intel's, but it irks me when you try the holier than thou route while pulling the same tricks as the competition.

Then again, I'm not exactly going to expect the truth from someone trying to sell me something.