News Tested: Default Windows Setting Slows Games Up to 10%, Even on RTX 4090

Toggle sidebar Toggle sidebar
Viking2121 said:
Yeah, I knew this hurt FPS long time ago, but I forgot all about it when I reinstalled windows, turning it back off lol
Click to expand...
This was me with the 13900K. New test build, totally forgot about VBS. Which is really why this article exists. I freaked out and thought, "OMG how much performance am I losing because of VBS!?" Thankfully, everything was tested on the 13900K with it enabled, so it's still "fair" in that sense. But I'm left trying to decide if I should retest the various GPUs with VBS disabled, or stick with the Microsoft default of having it on? Decisions, decisions...
 
  • Like
Reactions: atomicWAR, KyaraM, Makaveli and 1 other person
flashflood101 said:
It's incredibly irresponsible to promote disabling important security features.
Click to expand...
Security is all about risk management. We have to know what these features do in detail, how they impact our system usage, and the probability of scenarios in which not having this security feature enabled or available would be a problem. For example, you might say it's incredibly dumb to run Windows XP because of how insecure it is now. Except... just don't plug it into the internet (or a network that has free access to the internet) and nearly all of that risk goes away.

In the case of businesses and whatnot, some may not deploy security patches immediately, or at least not to every system they have. If the security patch creates other issues, that could bring down the entire business, and they would have to roll back the patch anyway.

Otherwise blindly saying every security feature should be used may as well be telling everyone they need to get on Windows 11 right now (and if they don't have supported hardware, they need to buy it) and saying they can stay on 10 is irresponsible.
 
  • Like
Reactions: palladin9479, atomicWAR, umeng2002_2 and 6 others
I would say that with a 5% average FPS difference at 1920x1080 and 2% difference at 3840x2160, that's a negligible and expected difference between a prepared benchmark machine and typical PC, especially if you look at the actual performance differences and see that the most affected game, MS Flight Sim, goes from 151.9 to 168.8 fps, you're not jumping into any new performance tiers, you're still a solid 144hz.

I think anyone using a system costing the better part of $3000 would be more concerned about getting just 40FPS in Cyberpunk 4K than going from 319FPS to 350FPS in Borderlands at FHD.
 
  • Like
Reactions: bloodroses and KyaraM
flashflood101 said:
It's incredibly irresponsible to promote disabling important security features.
Click to expand...

I've been reading about what this feature does for the last 30 minutes and I have to agree.

This should not be disabled.

This is the windows hypervisor, it is a critical part of Windows their security system. It abstracts running processes from the core OS and private user data.

Not only does it protect you from viruses, malware, etc, it also protects you from programs that are not viruses, from accessing your files, even in offline mode.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Watchful Fox
PlaneInTheSky said:
It abstracts running processes from the core OS and private user data.
Click to expand...
WOW! Windows users can now go to sleep with the ease of mind that their private data is safe at the trustworthy hands of Microsoft. A small performance regression (on a 13900k no less.. not sure how severe the penalty would be on lower end CPUs that normal people use) is the price to pay for guranteed private user data protection (Microsoft's red line).
Nothing to see here.. move along people.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Red_Frog, helper800, nerdvous and 2 others
I've been running Core Integrity and such on my Intel 10700 for a long while on Windows 11 Pro 64bit install, and honestly i don't notice any performance problems in games i play, and normal daily tasks. i didn't feel comfortable when Windows 11 first launched turning it off then, and don't think i'm gonna these days. As everything seems to be working as normal, games seem fast and responsive, and other tasks do fine as well
 
  • Like
Reactions: Watchful Fox
Ever since windows 10 came out I've disabled defender as one of the first things I do after a clean install.
 
I"m Happy using Defender myself, along with my Malwarebytes Premium. Been using since very first release of Windows 10, after being on Avast Free from Windows XP days til 10 Release date. Then Switched to Defender full time
 
PlaneInTheSky said:
Not only does it protect you from viruses, malware, etc, it also protects you from programs that are not viruses, from accessing your files, even in offline mode.
Click to expand...
I'm looking at the landing page for VBS and it makes no mention of this feature or suggesting it. And even poking around, it doesn't mention anything about preventing programs from accessing your files (which uh, isn't that what the file system permissions are for?)

You're free to point out where this is in Microsoft's documentation.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Red_Frog, helper800, zipspyder and 2 others
Oh no, you are leaving all that performance on the table...

You are getting consistent 100+ FPS in every benchmark, what performance are are we talking about then?

The extra wasted energy you needed to flood your visual cortex with details you will never consciously see while pixel-peeping?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Watchful Fox
hotaru.hino said:
I'm looking at the landing page for VBS and it makes no mention of this feature or suggesting it. And even poking around, it doesn't mention anything about preventing programs from accessing your files (which uh, isn't that what the file system permissions are for?)

You're free to point out where this is in Microsoft's documentation.
Click to expand...

Microsoft VBS entails memory enclaves that block kernel level threats from accessing local data and files when they are loaded into memory. Apple does the same thing with secure enclave.

Turning VBS off is a huge security risk. VBS is a major defense mechanism against the most destructive viruses that gain access to the whole system. VBS blocks these viruses from accessing the OS itself and protects memory and data.

If Microsoft Defender is the front gate protecting your house, VBS is the security guard inside the building . VBS is just as vital as defender to have a secure OS.

Sanitre.png


Satre.png
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Sleepy_Hollowed and Watchful Fox
If I get a virus, I get a virus. Have never had issues with them even in the days of Windows 98/XP. In the event I get one, I will just do the minor inconvenience of reinstalling windows if I have to (I don't think I have ever really had to do this and I have been pc building since like 2001). At least I will go down doing what I love, which is having my gaming PC perform the absolute best that it can.
 
  • Like
Reactions: doughillman
How about we all return to the days of DOS, where multitasking did not exist and only 1 program could ever run on the CPU at any given point in time? How much performance would we gain then?

You know, there's a point where "moar performance" is not equal to "better".
 
  • Like
Reactions: Sleepy_Hollowed
I just turn off virtualization in the bios.
But I also use defender and Malwarebytes.
Nothing is perfect. AMD still has not fixed SQUIP so their users should turn off SMT for good security.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

Latest posts

Moderators online

Share this page

COMPANY
RESOURCES
FOLLOW
Top Bottom