The Definitive Windows 8 Review And User Guide

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> i can think of at least 10 good reasons why I think windows 8 will succeed ...

( http://sospep.com/view/article?id=549 )

> will it frustrate the heck out of a shipload of current windows users along the way

- ABSOLUTELY !!

> IMO, The safe bet on doing that (from microsofts standpoint) is that these users alternatives to learning the new version are ...

1] learning a completely new o/s like mac/linux (which is likely not all that appealing to those users either)

OR

2] staying with what they aleady have (windows xp forever)

> I think the appeal of having a common os interface across your PC, tablet and smart phone would be worth the investment in learning the new interface.

( http://sospep.com/view/articles?id=232 )


 

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Toms please benchmark Win 8 with older cpu's. I heard it's not as bloated and runs much faster for those of us with older hardware. Kinda like how Linux doesn't need crazy specs to run.
 

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Great review! Congrats for the work and the output; loved it.

Win 8? Not convinced.

Call me old fashioned, but mobile interfaces belong in MOBILE environments. Trying to mix the two is a fail.

Cheers from Arg
 

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[citation][nom]xaephod[/nom]Now is a good chance for Linux to make a bigger part of the pc market. OSX is build on Unix, why can't someone make a linux distro that is completely polished? Ever try to install flash player in Linux where you have to use the terminal to do it? Aargh?As for windows 8. I will give it a "Pass". Why pay for a non-upgrade. There is no reason to buy it if you have Windows 7 unless you are bored with things just working correctly and you like having the latest and not so greatest. Windows 8 is not an upgrade and people who say they are upgrading don't know the definitely of upgrade. Its more of a lateral move.95 was a big jump over 3.1xp was a big jump over 95Vista was a big jump over xp (but it wasn't perfect, and windows 7 perfected it)Windows 8? No big leap, just a hop to the left.[/citation]it is an upgrade to Vista user like me I am done with Vista poor performance.
 

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You have written 13 thousand words to just say that this is a windows 7 with a new cover which has little additional use.

Wow.
ACTUALLY I AGREE 100 %

This is the biggest marketing scam in history!

Win 7 is good, stable and dependable. It has little to make anyone feel anything lacking, so much so that it is even equal to OS X in ways.

Win 7 allows focus on the job, not the OS that will then get to the job, eventually.

So Toms Hardware, why are u sullying your image by endorsing this pathetic avtar of windows? And shorting your own stock, clearly try as u did, the whole article says it all that your heart was not in the windows 8.

Ya ya if u use it long enough, u will get to like it, its true for every thing, didnt we "love" win 95 when it came out?

But the Question always was...what will I do better and easier or slicker than what I am doing today on my windows 7?

Someone points out that the King has no clothes. Ouch!
 
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You can use the MS Store if you use a local (or Domain) PC account. You simply have to sign into your MS account to install anything.
 
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So it will have no trouble handling my 4 monitors i have attached to my desktop?
 

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I am lounging on my couch, using a logitech k800 wireless illuminated keyboar (best ever) and a darkfield mouse that works on anything. My home built laptop is twenty feet away from me and is displaying through a Samsung Plasma TV (looks great) which is ten feet away. my regular monitor is a 40" dell but I like the plasma better. I have no desire to touch my screen, and never will. I think that all this touch screen nonsense is fine for smart phones, but even when I disconnect the 6Tb of storage and take it to a cafe I still use my mouse on my knee so I can sit up straight and back away from the screen unless typing. This touchscreen stuff is just childish nonsense -- finally the kids can touch the screen whoopi -- how trite. It is slower and you need to learn stupid gestures, and it gets your screen all smudged, and worst of all you have to sit right next to your display instead of a posture that will allow you to experience a painless old age. That's right, all you goofs that are hunched over your little devices and computers are in for a retirement of nothing but arthritis and continual pain. Stupid stupid stupid.
 
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I realize I'm probably walking away from revenue, but I will not support this monstrosity. The decision to run Win 8 really comes down to wanting a toy that runs like some phones or tablets. Unfortunately, the rest of the user community is being held at gun-point. The day will come when this "upgrade" will not be avoidable. Microsnot will take Win 7 to EOL and quit supplying security updates and hot fixes. Of course, one will not be able to buy legal licenses for Win 7 either. I'm seriously considering switching to one of the several available Linux distributions so I can still have a computer on which to do real work rather than a play toy. I've been programming / using computers since the early 1960's and the only similarity this new OS has to "Windows" is the name. There were once "wars" over Fortran and Cobol, and each camp touted its latest versions. Finally, some wag announced that he didn't know what the next version of the language would look like but he was certain that it would be called either Fortran or Cobol. Well, Windows has come to this split. It was a nice ride for awhile but now it's over. Goodbye Microsoft.
 

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[citation][nom]luke904[/nom]Who the hell wants a touchscreen on a desktop computer? Or even a laptop for that matter? A mouse and keyboard is far superior. It's faster and alot more comfortable.[/citation]
Its not a desktop, its a tabletop.. :)
 

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I prefer Windows7 with Rainmeter. Possible to get the same kind of desktop you find in Windows8 but also with the good-old taskbar.
 

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So basically what I get from this article is that Windows 8 is good, but the default settings are complete crap.

Also don't forget that if you want the Start menu back, Stardock sells a $5 application that adds it.
 

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Thanks Adam, and Tomshardware, for posting this guide. (Microsoft should send you a thank-you note, too. :) )

I ran the CP and then the RP, so I already know some of the stuff you talked about, but to tell the truth mostly fell back into my Win 7 habits and used the OS like Win 7 with a bit of a different start menu, so knowing how to actually use the Win 8 UI like it was intended is a very good thing for me.

;)
 

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This is a great article...one small suggestion...make this available to print without all the ads...This would be really valuable to have as a guide when learning windows 8.
 

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Just go for it...I've been using Window 8 Preview since May, and I got use to it, and like it.
Now I purchased the Windows 8 Pro download for only $39.99 and you can't go wrong.
Also after I installed it on a separate partition , I downloaded Media center and used the FREE Key I got from Microsoft!! It runs quick, and never a problem. The start on Windows 8 is better than the old start
on other OSs I dual boot with Windows 7.1 which I presently use mostly for playing the installed Games.
By the way I setup Windows 8 Pro on a new 240Gb OCZ SSD which I bought on sale!
There is help if you need too. So go for it.. the new adventure begins !!
 

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#1 Being that Porn is a Billion dollar a year industry (no joke). How can touch screens be for everyone?
#2 Wouldn't it wear them out cleaning them every 10 seconds?

On the other hand "no pun intended", I guess I could add Microsoft to the lawsuit against Larry Flynt for carple tunnel syndrome.
 
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Anybody from Tom's care to pass comment on how the reviewer managed to achieve Blu-Ray playback - several users reporting it can't be done - without 3rd party software
 

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i was terribly non-enthusiastic about doing the upgrade , but just started trying out the 90 day trial provided by MS for last couple of months. i did that to get rid of a annoying problem in win 7 where it would either lag or freeze up... no matter how many re-installs i did i could not get rid of them.. so instead of going back to XP i decided to tak a leap of faith and tried out win 8...I have to say i miss my start menu but maybe tats just withdrawal speaking..
I used the enterprise version for last i month or so and have to say i liked the improved performance, there was lack of driver compatibility but that was solved before the release..(AMD drivers sucked big time as the UI ended up being blurred..)but the latest beta solved that problem and now its all working ship shape.
I have ended up buying the Pro version(did not even get tempted to pirate since it was so cheap..)
and i suggest you all to do the same..
 

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Can't agree more. You covered a lot of grounds there, most of them had already been brought up and discussed in Microsoft's own forum as early as consumer preview, and that was when Aero was intact. Now they even go as far as taking the Aero out in the final version, just to fit their whole vision of simple coloured, blocky, square or rectangular visual theme... :pt1cable:

Right now Skype users (mostly power users) on Win 8 aren't happy because Win 8 is forcing Skype account to merge with Windows Live or local account, all in the name of their ways of thinking about "simplifying things" and "making sense" for users. I guess this is the first aftershock of MS acquired Skype. This whole forceful "make things easier" for the users in the tech industry is getting out of hand. They thought they are doing customers a favour by forcing certain ways, but in fact they are creating other problems, because most of time you just can't envision ALL usage scenarios. When do they get that giving options to users are still the best way. If you really want to advocate your methods of doing things, making them default (as long as there are other options) is more than enough.
 

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Stardock makes a little program called Start8 that gives you the traditional start menu back while also letting you go to the Metro UI(it has it's good point's) with a click of the button. I paid $40 for the upgrade, another $5 for Start8 and I like it. No issues with compatibility yet and i like the "square look".
 

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[citation][nom]steelman1991[/nom]Anybody from Tom's care to pass comment on how the reviewer managed to achieve Blu-Ray playback - several users reporting it can't be done - without 3rd party software[/citation]
[citation][nom]lockdown571[/nom]Why are various news sites claiming that Windows 8 Pro with the Media Center pack supports blu-rays? It doesn't.http://www.avsforum.com/t/1437096/ [...] ack-busted[/citation]
My bad, I never hopped aboard the Blu-ray train; I don't have any discs or players. So I never tested it myself. I was going on the nebulous language coming from Microsoft where they talk about the Media Center Pack containing DVD in no uncertain terms, and in the next sentence lumping DVD together with Blu-ray. I "verified" this by seeing some of the other reviews at the last minute, one of which claimed to have tested it first-hand. I believe what happened there is the reviewer was probably furnished a test unit which had 3rd-party Blu-ray codecs already pre-installed by the OEM. My apologies. We've updated this article accordingly, and also which covers this subject, as well as the relationship between Windows 8 and Windows RT. Sorry for the confusion this has caused.
 

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[citation][nom]Trifler[/nom]So basically what I get from this article is that Windows 8 is good, but the default settings are complete crap. Also don't forget that if you want the Start menu back, Stardock sells a $5 application that adds it.[/citation]

I actually prefer Iobit's StartMenu8 application. It's free, does the same thing as StarDock's Start8, and in my estimation does it better.

I a big fan of Iobit. I use their Advanced System Care program to quickly diagnose computer problems and thoroughly optimize certain features and I use their Smart Defrag program to optimize the location of files on my hard drives for best performance.

All of that is free.
 
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If one add the Desktop Toolbar to the Task Bar, it is even better than the Start Button. People who are complaining most likely have not spent any time with the OS. Desktop IS Windows 7 but even better.
 

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[citation][nom]guardianangel42[/nom]I actually prefer Iobit's StartMenu8 application. It's free, does the same thing as StarDock's Start8, and in my estimation does it better.I a big fan of Iobit. I use their Advanced System Care program to quickly diagnose computer problems and thoroughly optimize certain features and I use their Smart Defrag program to optimize the location of files on my hard drives for best performance.All of that is free.[/citation]
If I had known, I would have tried that instead of Stardocks. I've always liked Iobits software. Not a big deal though...it's not like $5 is going to break me.
 
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