The FX's poor perf. again in DX9.0 @ Xbit

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FP12 is not though.
And its still pretty 14m3/cheap.

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I mean your moms fat ass GW.

Geesh.

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"We are far less than we knew." - Bright Eyes
 
LOL, a bit of Zen in our posts now? :smile:

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Actually, I just got on MSN with the little [-peep-] and chewed him out. He didnt think what he said was anything for me to be mad about. But he also said that I shouldnt have corrected him:)
We have a stupid relationship.

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I'm almost getting the feeling a VERY select few of us (hu- hum GW, EDEN, DH, etc.) might be interested, but 3Dcenter has a nice review of the DET 52.14 vs 52.10 <A HREF="http://www.3dcenter.org/artikel/detonator_52.14/index_e.php" target="_new">HERE</A>. It mentions a few 'optimizations' they missed in an earlier review. It's interesting that the UT2K3 'cheat' seems to be gone.

Considering the large number of reviewers that seem to have the new DET 52.XX it's EXTREMELY surprising how there are absolutely no IQ screenies out there. Even this supposed FIX in UT2K3 is demonstrated using the old drivers.

<A HREF="http://www.3dcenter.org/artikel/detonator_52.14/index_e.php" target="_new">http://www.3dcenter.org/artikel/detonator_52.14/index_e.php</A>

In case some of you have already read this (yes it is 2 days OLD) fine, sorry to have bored you yet again! :tongue:


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I got the impression that the 52.14's didn't do tri by default but like the older drivers you could force it through application (see the chart the performance goes down, unlike the 45.23). Perhaps I misinterpreted that.


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<b>phsstpok</b>, you can call it bashing, but I call it a sad fact.
If you think I'm being unjustly biased against nV, fine prove me wrong.
And if you thought I was talking about the AMD64-FX51, then you really need to read the title of the forum. Focus on Graphics cards. Here's a <A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com//modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=1" target="_new">link to CPU section</A> should you need more info.


<b>Heinz57</b>, Yeah, I've seen the Anand benchmarks, and without IQ screenies, I don't trust them. Shaderperformance didn't improve by that much so the question is whether or not the partial precision is good enough, and no I won't take Anand's word for it. It's funny how many DET 52.XX bnechmarks are out there, yet no screenies. Don't trust other people's subjective visual opinion, jus like [H] said, well bilinear looks almost as good, especially when you're moving... Well that's not the SAME IQ now is it?

Anywhoo, we shall see. I still stand by the statement hat the FX5900U is not worth the money, and this is just one more example of why. he FX series should be hastened to the grave and the NV40 should replace it as soon as can be made possible without jeopardizing the line.

But then again, that's just my two frames' worth.


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According to Aquamark3 and Toms, FP24 is DX9 standard....in other words, you must have at least that to be considered full DX9 compatable.

<A HREF="http://www.extremetech.com/print_article/0,3998,a=107613,00.asp" target="_new">http://www.extremetech.com/print_article/0,3998,a=107613,00.asp</A>

and

<A HREF="http://www20.tomshardware.com/graphic/20030930/radeon_9800-11.html" target="_new">http://www20.tomshardware.com/graphic/20030930/radeon_9800-11.html</A>

Do a cntrl-F and find 'minimum'. Nvidia got a 'waiver' for the DX9 mixed mode application they use...but the next card after the 5800 snafu was supposed to resolve that. *tap tap* Still waiting.

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I was reading the subject, "The FX's poor perf. again in DX9.0 @ Xbit". The subject is ambiguous. As far as I knew you were talking about graphics performance of the AMD FX which would still be relevant in a graphics forum.

We all know that FX5900 performance in DirectX 9 suxs. It's old news. No one needs to prove it and no new threads like this are necessary. You are just being repetetive.

That's why I called it "more bashing".

However, if you want to keeping beating this subject into the ground feel free. I will refrain from making any more comments to you. I for one don't want to be repetitive and I've said my piece anyway.

<b>56K, slow and steady does not win the race on internet!</b><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by phsstpok on 10/14/03 07:35 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
By "your moms fat ass,GW," I really meant, wow, what a great guy you are GW, and we all love you very much.

:)

I hope ur daughters not off limits to me now.

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Lol.

Probly one of those punk kids you were talking about! You know you'd rather her be with someone like me:) Even if you'd have to put up with an occasional mamma joke.

Well, whoever shes with, SCARE his ass! And I know you can, just look at you. Just make sure you scare his ass straight and let him know whats what. He'll have her ass home on time for sure:)

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"We are far less than we knew." - Bright Eyes
 
If there is a man for the job, it's me, NOT YOU!

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Actually, I just got on MSN with the little [-peep-] and chewed him out. He didnt think what he said was anything for me to be mad about. But he also said that I shouldnt have corrected him:)
We have a stupid relationship.
Click to expand...
YOU'RE DUMPING ME?

Well that is a heartbreaker! First Scamtron cheats on our marriage engagement, now you!
Snif.

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Well I'll have nothing to do with that no more!

It's Mr. Bachelorette now!

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The 3dcenter review is just another nail in the coffin for Nvidia in my opinion. I am very curious if Anandtech is going to come out with another review and a correction to their last conclusion.

How long will Nvidia keep claiming that these optimizations are bugs? Have we come to a point where only a few select games will be optimized and the rest will just run lousy?

I figure if you're going to pay $300-$500 for a top of the line video card then it better run nearly every game flawlessly. Nvidia clearly fails this test. Nvidia is betting on it's performance in half a dozen optimized games. The rest it doesn't care about.

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First of all, any additional information is welcome, not that I'm looking for or even concerned about your approval. Just skip the thread if you're tired of hearing about nV foibles, although you may need to skip alot of threads because it's still a current topic for anyone interested in upgrading. Whereas any more info about the subject may be repetitive to you, it is good especially for anyone who is new to the forum or doesn't follow it 24/7 like the rest of us. Especially if they are planning on blowing a paycheck on this gear.Considering you've added NOTHINFG new by your comments I guess that makes your post doubly redundant by your own standards. Ironic, isn't it? :tongue:

Second this isn't the Graphics forum, it's the Graphics Card forum, so anything referring to the FX you can consider it 99.44% sure to be about the nV FX graphics card line.

While I wans' talking about the AMD-FX51, I also wasn't talking about VirtualFX in Flash, or AutoFX both Graphics related, or even the Dalbello FX ski boot or Harley FX motorcycle which both have nice graphics/decals. 😎

I can't account for your shortcomings when reading items in
this forum, and for your GREAT loss of time (worthy of whining about it) by you mistaking this for the CPU forum.

But thanks for the heads-up. I'll keep that in mind for the future.


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Exactly. It's interesting that there may be SOME improvements, (still trying to determine for sure if the App. setting IS working), but without screenies there really is no way to trust ANY bechmarks anymore.

I got a PM about a little PDF file on benchmarking and I have to say it really does reinforce my opinion of a need for a fair/level playing field for the consumer to be able to make edjumakated choices.

Anyone spending big bucks on a card now really has to do heir homework, ad hat's WAY beyond just reading a few selected/trustd reviewers. I don't think it was ever THAT hard before. Maybe I'm just lucky in that respect.

Seriously I wanna seee what other have to say about the DETs, and even more important, what other have to 'show' about them. Perhaps for a change we will need to wait for WHQL cert. before we get complete reviews.



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Overlooking the fact that UT03 was used, [H]'s review of the 9600XT did an excellent job of making the FX5600 look stupid.....BTW GGA, why in teh hell does the 9600XT have 3.3ns memory on it!?!....the 9600Pro in your machine is still a wayyy better card because of the kick-ass memory it's sporting.

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