The OCZ Vertex 2 Conspiracy: Lost Space, Lost Speed?

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OCZ seems to be doing a very good job of coating itself with a slimy layer of FUD. This goes for their RAM and PSUs as well. My comfort level with picking up anything OCZ has become akin to picking up a similarly slime-coated garden slug. No thanks. I think I'll need to see some significant senior management turnover before I'll trust OCZ.
 
This is not a first for OCZ. Thanks for bringing that up Trikat. OCZ switched the internal components of their Rally 2 and Diesel thumbs drives that resulted in significantly reduced speeds compared to the original. Yet, just like these SSD's they never even changed the model number so when people went and bought the "new" drive, they were not getting the product as it was advertised. Its crap like this that has made me stay away from OCZ. It just screams bad business practice.
 
I returned my 120GB Revodrive (not an X2) because it was corrupting on me, and OCZ was nice enough to make an relatively equivalent trade for two 60GB Vertex 2 to be put in RAID 0 for similar performance and capacity. I looked into it and based off of the 34nm agreed. I received the 25nm. I am assuming it is no longer an equivalent trade. Any suggestions?
 
Since I can't open up the drive without voiding warranty, and I wouldn't trust them over the phone, is there a way I can tell what nand I've got from the ocztoolbox?
 
I feel like I've been cheated. I'll never purchase OCZ product again. I should've stick with others like Kingston or Intel instead. Very disappointed.
 
I dunno exactly what you mean, but if the size of the drive is less than 90% of what was advertised, then you have the 25nm, if it is over 90% then you have the 34nm. Since your drive is more than 40gb and less than 120gb, your capacity would have to be affected according to the article if it is the 25nm version.
 
from page 2 of this article:

"For those folks, OCZ is offering to swap out 25 nm drives with 64 Gb NAND for drives with 34 nm NAND, which reverses the capacity loss."

I believe that is incorrect. Last I read OCZ is only replacing the new 25nm drives people have purchased with a re-configured drive (more chips), but still using 25nm chips. Yes?
 
[citation][nom]cjtoddpdx[/nom]from page 2 of this article:"For those folks, OCZ is offering to swap out 25 nm drives with 64 Gb NAND for drives with 34 nm NAND, which reverses the capacity loss."I believe that is incorrect. Last I read OCZ is only replacing the new 25nm drives people have purchased with a re-configured drive (more chips), but still using 25nm chips. Yes?[/citation]

You're right, this should have read 32 Gb NAND. So, you still have 25 nm devices, but they're not the higher-density parts. (reference here: http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?84821-New-update-on-the-25nm-OCZ-SSD-drives)
 
No wonder why my OCZ Vertex 2 doesn't get any where near the benchmarked speeds I read in the reviews. The write speeds almost never exceed 100MBps, and rarely do the read speed pass 200MBps.

At first I thought it was my PC, but I installed and tested the drive in my gaming PC and got similar results.
 
After a purchase of some OCZ ram 2 years ago, Ive never looked at them for anything. After RMA'ing 2 sets of ddr3(which were shipped from Taiwan)I was done. I couldnt care less how fast their drives are I cant trust them. Intel ssd's all the way for me even tho they "may" be slower.
 
OCZ in general is a pretty garbage brand. Check any of their products out on newegg and they're usually running close to the bottom for average # eggs.

I've avoided SSDs anyways because I don't have days to waste googling every single brand/controller/capacity/generation/memory type/firmware combo and whether or not it will be a dud.
 
And the world isn't round like we are told.
Does anyone get to use 1tb from their 1tb hard drives, no. This type of subject is just a form of bitching for bitching sake.
Like that stupid car issue. HP ratings have been in the null zone for so many years that it's poor judgement and taking a back door excuse for a car that you owned for a full year and THEN you find you don't like it enough that you can feel it's missing 13hp is a deal breaker? God your shallow.
For the money spent in taxes buying the car, getting rid of it and buying another car you could have taken the orig. car and turbocharged it close to 200hp or just changed all oils over to synthetics and did a cheap intake upgrade to recover those 13hp. So those 13hp wasn't the real problem between you and that car.
If you want to make a real important topic fine, you don't really have one here on anything that isn't really new or to be thought as ripped off.
Anyone that is going to go raid goes that way from the start if they have any experience with computers. At least anyone I know that thinks well.
They don't buy one drive and wait a few months or a year and then buy another one to change over. You are not very smart.
That car story showed this and you really should have not brought it up.
Example, on Saturday you drive the car home as happy with it as ever. On Sunday you hear there is a 13 hp difference. So now you don't like it? Or was it really a chance to get a free one year use out of it and get around the depreciated value issue? That sounds more true to the example and thought it was a free deal excluding all the added costs of buying a new car. Sounds pretty cheap upfront and no forethought of all the troubles to go through. People that buy that type of car do it for a specific reason, do their research and test drive them. If they like what they see they buy it.
and this type of car isn't a race car by any standards, there are other types that are better suited for it, at the most I would feel a little bothered by it but then again I know that much difference isn't enough to notice and would go on with it if I went into buying it for the reasons that I thought made that kind of car worth buying.
I would at most have had Mazda put some of their performance parts on it free of charge to get it back up but sacking the whole car for it was crazy on both sides of this issue. Same thing with this new memory. It's a nit pick issue.
 
Bill,

While you're entitled to your opinion, there are plenty of folks over in OCZ's forums who'd like the capacity and performance they paid for when they read reviews of a product released and reviewed last year. Say what you want about my car story, but try telling *them* they're just nit picking ;-)

Best,
Chris
 
I really didnt see too much of a performance boost from my vraptor 300gb to my vertex2 120gb (34nm). About the only thing that I see an real boost in is windows startup times from 1min 05sec to 40-45sec... apps load a little faster but other than that my SSD has been a huge waste of 300 bucks.
 
It seems impossible that OCZ didn't know about this until Tom's "called it to their attention". They must test their new designs.

I'm looking at a new SSD this spring, and OCZ was in the running. Maybe not anymore.
 
The 1.28 toolbox don't works with the latest SATA drivers of Intel.

OCZ support said me to upgrade to the latest Intel controllers so it would stop hanging after recovery from hibernation.

I still get hibernation hangs, and now, can't use the toolbox...
 
OCZ is garbage, I have had to RMA 3 sets of their RAM and 2 SSD's in a 6 month period and I am now waiting 3 weeks for a refund because the have "exited the DRAM market" No surprise and It wont be long before they do the same on SSD's if they keep playing dirty like this.
 
Which is more worth it? A 120GB Agility 2 or its Vertex 2 (non E-series) counterpart? I'm talking from a price/performance/capacity point of view.
 
QCZ had a great opportunity to OWN this problem. Instead, they pawned the problem off onto their vendors. The litmus test: If the 25nm version outperformed the 34nm Vertex 2, would OCZ have released it with the same SKU and model number? I think not. They would have named it something like the "Vertex Turbo2 Mark I"! The bottom line... If you make a change to a product that alters form, fit, or functionality---you change the part number. Period
 
So...I just got an Agility OCZ Agility 2 OCZSSD2-2AGTE120G 2.5" from the Egg on a super sale for $139 (after I send in the rebate card) and it will be here Friday.

Good idea or not?
 
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