The Windows Phone 7.5 Review, A Month-Long Experience

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[citation][nom]aznshinobi[/nom]Honestly, WP7 looks like a solid platform. But to the company of Microsoft, WP7 is causing them to shoot themselves in the foot. Metro UI is great, but that needs to stay mobile. Not be brought, through Windows 8, to the desktops. As for Android, iOS, and WP7. I love Android with all the roms you can flash to, that's not for everyone and try new things. I think iOS has a huge platform, apps and all. It's reliable no doubt and it's simple for people who don't worry about roms and stuff like that. WP7 looks like it'll be a solid challenge. It's fast, simple and I'd expect it to grow even more.[/citation]
I like your comment. Very non-bias and I agree with you completely. I'm tired of everyone with these comments that say "your phone OS is crap, and mine is the best thing that ever happened.". Like you mentioned, I think every platform is going to have it's benefits and it's drawbacks. I too use rooted android and I love it. But I'm not to say that android is the best platform for everyone. Nor that iOS or WP7 are crap. With the right hardware, all these phones have great potential to satisfy their users.
 
I understand, and appreciate how Microsoft controls the hardware, so that development is more universal like iOS. Unfortunately, that doesn't change the fact that today's WM7 phones are comparable to my nearly 2 year old Droid X. Hopefully WM8 will get them updated to something more recent, like the qualcomm S4 or something. Even if you don't need the extra performance, there's no reason to waste pattery life on outdated manufacturing processes.
 
[citation][nom]ahthurungnone[/nom]I've been using the Win7 mobile operating system for month's now. Previously I had used an Andriod and an iPhone for over a year each. I thought is was time to give Windows a chance.Upon first use of the Windows phone, I noticed how much simplier to use and more elegant its layout versus the others. Although the Win7 mobile OS lacks a good navigation software, many secondary apps on its market, and needs to be able to zync without Zune, it is still a vastly superior OS. Android and iOS remind me of Windows 3.1, and we should expect more from a mobile OS. It's time to get out of the 90s people and welcome the 21st century Windows phone.[/citation]

Android and iOS remind you of Windows 3.1? I can't agree with that. Windows 3.1 wasn't even a full OS, it was a program that ran over DOS, if I remember correctly... Was also a pretty big hassle to get it running right after hardware upgrades.

As for the UI, no, I don't find them reminiscent of a twenty year old UI.
 
[citation][nom]noper[/nom]my friend's sister-in-law brought home $20658 the prior week. she is working on the computer and got a $575300 condo. All she did was get fortunate and work up the directions given on this link www.LazyCash16.com[/citation]

Is there no way to stop these spam bots?
 
[citation][nom]tipoo[/nom]Is there no way to stop these spam bots?[/citation]

There are lots of ways. For example, we could be required to type in a code taken from a picture like many other sites do. We could be required to use a code that we receive in the email after requesting to post a comment. There are many more ways. That they aren't implemented is because they are either intrusive or simply annoying.

I'm not aware of a great anti-spam system that is not intrusive or annoying. If anyone can think of one, then I suggest recommending it to Tom's through the feedback or some other method of contact.
 
WP7: There probably isn't an app for that. The fact is that people are spending far more time developing for Android and iOS. Can you blame them when those 2 make up 80% of the market?
 
[citation][nom]apple_eater[/nom]great a other device we can expect to see the famous bsod[/citation]

I've never seen a WP crash and my PCs never crash either. For example, my Windows laptop is on 24/7 for weeks and months and it has never crashed.
 
[citation][nom]blazorthon[/nom]I've never seen a WP crash and my PCs never crash either. For example, my Windows laptop is on 24/7 for weeks and months and it has never crashed.[/citation]

I wish I could say the same it does happen . I get all these people calling me saying there is a blue screen and the computer is taking a dump.
 
[citation][nom]apple_eater[/nom]I wish I could say the same it does happen . I get all these people calling me saying there is a blue screen and the computer is taking a dump.[/citation]

That's usually because of people being stupid. Most BSODs are on old, out-dated machines that either need to be fixed up, upgraded, or replaced. For example, an old Win 2000, XP, or Vista machine are far more likely to have a problem because they have had more chances to have a problem (over the course of five years, there are a lot more chances for something to install/update wrong, etc). There're also more chances for there to be malware.

If it gets to such points, then a quick re-installation of Windows should fix everything. There are also less drastic methods to fix problems like that. Beyond these problems, many causes for a BSOD are hardware, not software. For example, RAM, hard drives, motherboards, video cards, and really, just about any part of the computer, can cause a BSOD if they are faulty. Computers are sometimes deliberately designed to only last three to five years before needing replacement, so keeping a computer for about that long or longer can cause problems.
 
I'll just say that I love my Wp7 and I wish it wasn't so downplayed from so many ignorants and some unprofessional journalists and "prophets" about it failing scaring people off.

Great insight for those that have never been in touch with the mobile Os and I hope whoever is interested to try it out. I didn't expect it to be this solid, snappy and great enough to have me looking forward already to a new WP device :)
 
M$ should give these phones for free if they want to penetrate the market, not asking for my hard earned cash.

I won't go into details about the apps in windows phone marketplace (how many are there, maybe 4?) but I will go into details about what happened to their previous platform, ie windows phone 6.5

Let me name a few: Crappy support from the beginning, no full phone backup, little and crappy apps, synchronization is a mess (m$ in their infinite wisdom decided to completely omit outlook "other phone" fields from synchronization, this meant that whoever owned a nokia before and pcsynced it to outlook their numbers wouldn't go into windows mobile device), no x64 updates for win7 and office x64.

And to top it off, I got an email from m$ stating that support for windows mobile 6.5 (the previous generation that is, not a platform from 1990) is stopping from april 2012. Nicely done microsoft.

The fact that M$ has bing as a default and only search in wp 7.5 makes me think they still have the same practices that will doom the windows phone 7.5 platform worse than its predecessor. Hence my comment at the beginning.

Used to own an HTC diamond 2.
 
i have it now for almost two years (yepp).
I find it as a pure phone with occasional app use better than iphone (I never used android) - it's faster to call, contacts synch well.
Bing is not as good as Google for search (I do fairly specialized searches) - I got sent to the middle of the city, because Bing couldn't find the street, more than once, more than in one city (once it was bad, I was late to a business meeting- it didn't even say that it didn't find the street, it just took me there).
Biggest let-down: watching video doesn't output to bluetooth headphones, making it useless to take to the fitness club - I have to switch between phone during weights lifting and ipad during cardio.
Second big let-down: the tiles annoy you after two years, they are just too boring, you can't even choose other colours than the predefined (I've been through all of them).
Third big let-down: the hardware of my htc hd7 is not bad, but is still worlds away from the iphone4, sometimes it feels that I paid so much money (about 80% of the price of an iphone4 back then) for not enough quality.
Fourth big let-down: zune sucks. it looks great, but doesn't show texts of songs that are long, has quirks updating the library and it's not adequate for large libraries (neither is itunes actually, but it's still better)
Fifth big let-down: the bloody search button. i press it more often than not when playing games (leaving the game, no save, etc.), or even when just putting the phone on the table. no more virtual buttons for me, iphone does it right.
 
i have it now for almost two years (yepp).
I find it as a pure phone with occasional app use better than iphone (I never used android) - it's faster to call, contacts synch well.
Bing is not as good as Google for search (I do fairly specialized searches) - I got sent to the middle of the city, because Bing couldn't find the street, more than once, more than in one city (once it was bad, I was late to a business meeting- it didn't even say that it didn't find the street, it just took me there).
Biggest let-down: watching video doesn't output to bluetooth headphones, making it useless to take to the fitness club - I have to switch between phone during weights lifting and ipad during cardio.
Second big let-down: the tiles annoy you after two years, they are just too boring, you can't even choose other colours than the predefined (I've been through all of them).
Third big let-down: the hardware of my htc hd7 is not bad, but is still worlds away from the iphone4, sometimes it feels that I paid so much money (about 80% of the price of an iphone4 back then) for not enough quality.
Fourth big let-down: zune sucks. it looks great, but doesn't show texts of songs that are long, has quirks updating the library and it's not adequate for large libraries (neither is itunes actually, but it's still better)
Fifth big let-down: the bloody search button. i press it more often than not when playing games (leaving the game, no save, etc.), or even when just putting the phone on the table. no more virtual buttons for me, iphone does it right.
 
[citation][nom]silkman[/nom]M$ should give these phones for free if they want to penetrate the market, not asking for my hard earned cash.I won't go into details about the apps in windows phone marketplace (how many are there, maybe 4?) but I will go into details about what happened to their previous platform, ie windows phone 6.5Let me name a few: Crappy support from the beginning, no full phone backup, little and crappy apps, synchronization is a mess (m$ in their infinite wisdom decided to completely omit outlook "other phone" fields from synchronization, this meant that whoever owned a nokia before and pcsynced it to outlook their numbers wouldn't go into windows mobile device), no x64 updates for win7 and office x64. And to top it off, I got an email from m$ stating that support for windows mobile 6.5 (the previous generation that is, not a platform from 1990) is stopping from april 2012. Nicely done microsoft.The fact that M$ has bing as a default and only search in wp 7.5 makes me think they still have the same practices that will doom the windows phone 7.5 platform worse than its predecessor. Hence my comment at the beginning.Used to own an HTC diamond 2.[/citation]

There are more than 4 WP apps. Bing is an excellent search engine nowadays, although it isn't too great for geography, it is good for pretty much everything else, although I tend to use Google and others anyway. The WP7 smart phones are excellent phones. The apps are a problem and there are a few others, but for multipurpose phones, they do the job very well. Before WP7 (such as 6.5), the Windows phones did suck. However, the WP7 and up phones are far better than their predecessors.

Last I checked, there were over 80K Windows apps.

M$ doesn't need to give these phones away for free, although M$ actually does give many of them away for free. You'd know that if you actually kept up with the news about them. Well, at least with the news from a few months ago or so when they started doing it. Someone's really out of the loop here.

[citation][nom]ss[/nom]i have it now for almost two years (yepp). I find it as a pure phone with occasional app use better than iphone (I never used android) - it's faster to call, contacts synch well.Bing is not as good as Google for search (I do fairly specialized searches) - I got sent to the middle of the city, because Bing couldn't find the street, more than once, more than in one city (once it was bad, I was late to a business meeting- it didn't even say that it didn't find the street, it just took me there).Biggest let-down: watching video doesn't output to bluetooth headphones, making it useless to take to the fitness club - I have to switch between phone during weights lifting and ipad during cardio.Second big let-down: the tiles annoy you after two years, they are just too boring, you can't even choose other colours than the predefined (I've been through all of them).Third big let-down: the hardware of my htc hd7 is not bad, but is still worlds away from the iphone4, sometimes it feels that I paid so much money (about 80% of the price of an iphone4 back then) for not enough quality.Fourth big let-down: zune sucks. it looks great, but doesn't show texts of songs that are long, has quirks updating the library and it's not adequate for large libraries (neither is itunes actually, but it's still better)Fifth big let-down: the bloody search button. i press it more often than not when playing games (leaving the game, no save, etc.), or even when just putting the phone on the table. no more virtual buttons for me, iphone does it right.[/citation]

Bing isn't a GPS. If that's such a problem, then why don't you use Google Maps or Mapquest? Normally, when I have a problem, I solve it or at least work around it instead of being lazy about it and just letting it happen over and over again. Also, there is a Google Search app for WP7, so no, you're not locked into Bing if you don't want to be.

Now I don't have Zune myself, but everyone who I know who has one always says that it's better. In fact, the people who I know who have iPods, but have tried out a Zune even say that the Zune is better. I've only played with some of the newest Zunes so maybe you have a problem with an older one, but I can say that at the least, the newer Zunes don't suck and are actually very good.

Also, I have had several phones with virtual buttons and I rarely ever hit them on accident. Maybe you simply used a WP smartphone that I have never had nor used and it has a problem that I'm not aware of, but I would not say that hitting buttons accidentally are the phone's fault unless they are very poorly placed.

All in all, I prefer my Droid over the WP smartphones, but they are still great phones. Really, the biggest reason for my Droid preference is simply the Android Market and the usually better hardware (although some of the newer WP7 and upcoming WP8 smart phones have some very good hardware, unlike the practically junk that the previous WP smart phones had).

The Bluetooth problem is a valid complaint, but can't you simply use wired headphones? I use them when I work out. However, even something such as the Nokia Lumia 900 (which, with a contract, is only $99 and without is $449, last I checked) does support many Bluetooth wireless headsets and more. I could check some other models, but it probably isn't the only one with Bluetooth support, 4G support, Wireless B/G/N support, an FM radio, and more. It also happens to have a single core Snapdragon at 1.4GHz, so the newer WP smart phones obvious aren't skimping much on performance. Going beyond single core seems fairly worthless unless you are a performance junkie (such as me) who likes to push every device you have to it's limits.
 
Right, and I suppose you think that game developers and movie makers should also give away their content for free?

Your pointless hyperbole aside, do tell how your "gripes" about WinMo 6.5 are in any way relevant to WP7. Obviously past consumer experience with one brand has impact on how you view their future products. But considering WP7 is a completely new system with nearly no relation to older Windows Mobile, that's akin to saying you'd never consider buying a new WRX STi just because your old 1990 Justy was a disappointment.

Crappy support? Quite a few phones received the update from 6.0 to 6.1, and most native 6.1 phones went to 6.5. Again, unlike Apple, MS didn't lock down and control the hardware. If you want to blame someone for poor support, that's on the cell carriers and the phone manufacturers since they had to release updates for their specific device. But if you want to talk about spotty support and updates, look at Android 1.6 - 2.3.

No full phone backup? Um, considering I could sync all contacts, calendar items, notes, tasks, and My Docs folder to Outlook, how can you argue this? The MyPhone service even allowed you to sync all that and your text message archive and expansion card to the cloud.

You're talking about a mobile OS that has been around since 2007. That's the same time the first iPhone was released, and how's Apple's continuing support on that product? You can barely get any support for Android pre 2.0, and that's only the last part of 2009.
 
As long as the phone OS needs another sync software to function, its out for me. itunes & zune NO THANK YOU!! I'll take android any day. I told my friends that if you take away the itunes, all the idevices are screwed!!

Why choose a phone where the weakest link is the syncing software??? I simply don't get it...
 
By "unhiding" all the hidden comments (all suspiciously 'disliked' about the same 10 times), then hiding the pro-Winphone 7 comments (all suspiciously from the same 10 or so posters), you'll get a picture of what people think of the platform who aren't paid by Microsoft to promote it :)
 
What I need from a smartphone are touch screen, fast responsive UI, great camera and video recording, great speakers, got front facing cam for video calls, can read, edit and create office files, got free offline maps and navigation, support remote desktop software like RealVNC and TeamViewer, support remote WoL software, able to open Facebook games like CastleVille and War Commander smoothly. able to open and read files from PC network via WiFi so I can open and watch videos that's stored in my PC from my smartphone without having to download it first to my smartphone, can do WiFi tethering and can share it's files through WiFi so other PC or Laptop can read it directly. The point is I need a PC in the form of smartphone, I hope someday smartphones can have a PC OS in it like Windows 7 or so, so it can work exactly like a PC.
 
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