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I wouldn't be interested in another Borderlands even if it were a feature-complete, actually-free game that ran at flawless 4k120 ultra on a celeron netbook.

The first Borderlands may have been genre defining in 2009, but that genre is dead. Plus it's teenager-targeted humor is going to be called embarrassing by old fans who are now adults in their 30's - and called cringe and out of touch by the next generation of 14 year olds.

There's nothing that can be done to make a new Borderlands game good, without changing it so much that it is no longer Borderlands.

It's done, Todd. End it.
 
watched their traielr (mix cinematic and gameplay mix) and ya i can agree..no reason to be that demanind for what it shows & looks like.

either they are skipping optimizing on a huge scale or they engine being used is not suited for whatever changes they did.
 
I'm very confused by people complaining about the system requirements here. These seem like relatively standard requirements for pretty much every other modern title. I have a hard time believing anyone who's been playing games with heavy graphics for the last few years doesn't already meet them. Sure it might be time to upgrade from that decade old system, but that doesn't seem unreasonable.
 
I'm very confused by people complaining about the system requirements here. These seem like relatively standard requirements for pretty much every other modern title. I have a hard time believing anyone who's been playing games with heavy graphics for the last few years doesn't already meet them. Sure it might be time to upgrade from that decade old system, but that doesn't seem unreasonable.
The problem is the jump in minimum, a lot of people still have 6 or even 4 core CPU's.

And others still think that 6GB of VRAM is enough to get by on 1080p.

This makes me think of the Black Ops fiasco where the clueless devs had to release an update improving performance for CPU's "with only 2 cores".... when the majority of people still ran 2 core CPU's at the time..... and which only proved they were lazy to begin with and should have done this from the start.

Probably just a repeat of that this time where the devs are targeting console release and doing a PPP(Piss Poor Port) to PC.

The only thing that irks me is so many people still advocating 16GB of RAM for new builds when that was already looking dubiously low 5 years ago.....

I think people are angry because so many are poorer than 5-10 years ago and they don't like games forcing them to spend more money in shrinking cycles.... so they lash out.

Personally I say go for it, alienate the customers.... let the damned crash just happen already so the needed renaissance can happen.... cause most of the best PC games now you don't need high end specs for anyway.... unless you play at above 1080p and that's the real kicker.... 1080p used to be the safe resolution, the cheap one.... it's neither anymore because of UE5. Funny thing is I can't think of a single UE5 game I actually like....
 
Lol. First they want to charge 80, then they want to push their ideas and ban anyone who criticizes their agenda; and they still expect people to staunchly support them. Lol! I couldn't care less about this trash, so I couldn't care less what the requirements are.
 
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It's irrelevant to me. No matter what the extent is (or isn't), the TOS/Privacy news lately is enough. I have removed BL3 until they amend their policy and refuse to buy anything further until is revised or we assured and proven what is claimed to be true.

They've got some nerve. Change of terms and then ridiculous price tag followed by these spec requirement? Screw them.
 
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The problem is the jump in minimum, a lot of people still have 6 or even 4 core CPU's.
So like... Doom The Dark Ages: AMD Zen 2 or Intel 10th Generation CPU @3.2Ghz with 8 cores / 16 threads or better

Realistically this game lists a 9700K which is 8c/8t so a 8700K (3600X on the AMD side) or faster would probably be plenty.
And others still think that 6GB of VRAM is enough to get by on 1080p.
There are a good number of games which require 8GB VRAM minimum as this has become a lot more common among AAA games so this one is hardly anything new.
 
eems you really should only use UE5 as a developer if you plan to do something extraordinary graphics wise (which it is capa
Yeah, UE5 has frequently been disappointing from what i've heard---although Expedition 33 has some really beautiful artwork. Avowed, for example, had poor performance for basically average visuals.
 
I hate it, but these system reqs are in line with expectations. BL3 released with minimum reqs of hardware from 6-7 years earlier and recommended specs of hardware from 2-3 years earlier. Now here's BL4 releasing with minimum reqs from...6-7 years ago, and recommended specs 4-5 years ago.

The reason it feels so bad is because 4 year old GPUs are still super expensive.
 
Maybe I am tired but that sure looks like 2070 to me, not 3070. Was racking my brain why it would be that when most of the new stuff went in on the 2000 release. Makes a lot more sense when the headline matches the requirements picture.
 
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The problem is the jump in minimum, a lot of people still have 6 or even 4 core CPU's.

And others still think that 6GB of VRAM is enough to get by on 1080p.

This makes me think of the Black Ops fiasco where the clueless devs had to release an update improving performance for CPU's "with only 2 cores".... when the majority of people still ran 2 core CPU's at the time..... and which only proved they were lazy to begin with and should have done this from the start.

Probably just a repeat of that this time where the devs are targeting console release and doing a PPP(Piss Poor Port) to PC.

The only thing that irks me is so many people still advocating 16GB of RAM for new builds when that was already looking dubiously low 5 years ago.....

I think people are angry because so many are poorer than 5-10 years ago and they don't like games forcing them to spend more money in shrinking cycles.... so they lash out.

Personally I say go for it, alienate the customers.... let the damned crash just happen already so the needed renaissance can happen.... cause most of the best PC games now you don't need high end specs for anyway.... unless you play at above 1080p and that's the real kicker.... 1080p used to be the safe resolution, the cheap one.... it's neither anymore because of UE5. Funny thing is I can't think of a single UE5 game I actually like....
Thank God for the Westinghouse native 720p TV monitor with dvi port from 2008 that still exists and working! Every game will run fine on the 3080 for another 5 years!
 
I think this article is a little bogus. The minimum is a 2070 which in today's graphical age isn't a huge deal. 100gb ssd considering how big the game is and amount of pre loaded content is more than fair the part I don't get is the ram, like that's fair to me I get that.

I don't know why people are so quick to dismiss. Yeah they messed up with wonderlands and they stopped it after they released the concept wasn't as fun as allegedly thought so they poured everything into this game bring content makers, the largest BL streamers on to their panel for the gamers. They are delivering on their promises so far so debate away but let's not make daft statements acting like this is not a huge fix for the BL addicts.
 
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Thank God for the Westinghouse native 720p TV monitor with dvi port from 2008 that still exists and working! Every game will run fine on the 3080 for another 5 years!
It might run fine but it will look terrible because even 1080p is becoming a blurry mess on some games..... because the devs refuse to properly optimise for it and target 1440p as their minimum.
 
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So like... Doom The Dark Ages: AMD Zen 2 or Intel 10th Generation CPU @3.2Ghz with 8 cores / 16 threads or better

Realistically this game lists a 9700K which is 8c/8t so a 8700K (3600X on the AMD side) or faster would probably be plenty.

There are a good number of games which require 8GB VRAM minimum as this has become a lot more common among AAA games so this one is hardly anything new.
I think a lot of people are out of the loop because they simply ignore a lot of the latest AAA games.... an indication of how bad these products have become.
 
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I think a lot of people are out of the loop because they simply ignore a lot of the latest AAA games.... an indication of how bad these products have become.
I'd have to agree with that. I always expect some sort of ridiculous requirements when people are complaining and most of the time it's just not that bad. I have a friend who I've tried to get to upgrade their system as they're still on SNB, but they're also not upset that the newest games won't run. I get the mindset of not upgrading often as there are a ton of reasons, but one also shouldn't expect the industry to not move on.

I'm also happy whomever is coming up with the system requirements are also being more realistic about them. We had a stretch where a chunk of games weren't particularly playable on minimum requirements whereas most today seem to be.
 
Those specs are reasonable by nowadays standards. A 2070, Ryzen 2700x and 16 GB of RAM is comparable to any other recent games. You all want the specs to remain unchanged for 15 years because you can't afford to upgrade, but games will sold anyway so you gonna have to deal with it.

And as others said, Borderlands games have always been difficult to run. Nothing new here.

The deluxe edition isn't required to enjoy the game. Even if it was 75$ I would still get the base edition since paying extra for useless stuff like cosmetics is against my principle, and the DLCs will be available separately later anyway. You know DLCs are usually sold like 20$ each? And you get mad because they charge 30$ more for an edition with DLCs included?

I even read someone here saying "they first wanted to charge us 80$ and now this". Wow! Incredible! Now we not only blame devs for something that is up to the publishers, we blame them when it didn't even happen. Nobody from either Gearbox or 2K ever said the game would be 80$. People asked them and they said to wait for the price announcement, and turns out it's 70$. But people are still mad because... I don't even know why. If someone asked 2K if they were planning to sell the game 200$ and they replied to wait for the price announcement would you also be like "they wanted to charge us 200$ 😭"?

People like to target specific games to vent their frustrations. Starfield was a good example for that but it's getting old now so I guess some fresh ones are needed. But if the game gets good reviews (from pro reviewers as I won't trust users who are mad because their GTX 970 can't run it or "they wanted to charge us 80$"), I will certainly buy it. I played all Borderlands and the third was my favorite, improving over its predecessors on almost every aspect. And the twins had to be annoying as much as possible since the goal here was to mock influencers, not celebrating them (but understanding second degree is a skill that is getting lost nowadays thanks to social media).
 
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People like to target specific games to vent their frustrations. Starfield was a good example for that but it's getting old now so I guess some fresh ones are needed. But if the game gets good reviews (from pro reviewers as I won't trust users who are mad because their GTX 970 can't run it or "they wanted to charge us 80$"), I will certainly buy it. I played all Borderlands and the third was my favorite, improving over its predecessors on almost every aspect. And the twins had to be annoying as much as possible since the goal here was to mock influencers, not celebrating them (but understanding second degree is a skill that is getting lost nowadays thanks to social media).
Almost all the criticisms of it still stands though.... what you get is not worth what they are asking for it. They basically badly copied their own work assuming it would be enough to keep the coffer filling.

A lot of the criticisms was just stupid though... a lot of people seem to have been expecting no mans sky with the bethesda touch..... and I don't think bethesda ever actually understood that and everyone ended up screaming past each other. A lot of other people though HATE crafting/survival and basebuilding and were p-d off that bethesda doubled down on that as a requirement for playing the game. This is what happens when you try to make one game for literally everything and you don't put Star Citizen level thought into it.... and even SC is struggling to actually get the product out to market.
 
No intention of playing this game after seeing how BL3 was, but the CPU specs have me wondering: they mention a requirement for an 8 core CPU on both minimum and recommend requirements. What does this mean for hybrid CPUs with 6 performance cores and a bunch of efficiency cores? Would the game just run worse because not all of the 8 required cores are running at full P-core speeds? Or does the CPU just need to have 8 or more cores period, regardless of speed?