News There is no way a Borderlands game is that demanding' — Borderlands 4 users furious as PC requirements reveal RTX 3070 minimum GPU, 3080 recommended

[Eximo]

No intention of playing this game after seeing how BL3 was, but the CPU specs have me wondering: they mention a requirement for an 8 core CPU on both minimum and recommend requirements. What does this mean for hybrid CPUs with 6 performance cores and a bunch of efficiency cores? Would the game just run worse because not all of the 8 required cores are running at full P-core speeds? Or does the CPU just need to have 8 or more cores period, regardless of speed?

As with most games that have a higher thread count, it is about total multicore performance. 14600K should be just fine. They are not going to push all six P cores to max to start with, let alone the e-cores.

 

[Obummer]

I highly doubt they will release a test demo to see what systems it can run on and if the system requirements really are that high they are going to inspire a lot of piracy just to even test it.

They really f@#cked up on this one...

 

[kerberos_20]

I highly doubt they will release a test demo to see what systems it can run on and if the system requirements really are that high they are going to inspire a lot of piracy just to even test it.

They really f@#cked up on this one...

im not seeing issue
minimum 8gb vram gpu from 2018/2019 - 150 bucks max on ebay for both rtx 2070 and rx 5700xt
minimum 8 core cpu from 2018/2019 - 50 bucks

 

[JayGau]

im not seeing issue
minimum 8gb vram gpu from 2018/2019 - 150 bucks max on ebay for both rtx 2070 and rx 5700xt
minimum 8 core cpu from 2018/2019 - 50 bucks

Exactly! People are seeing imaginary issues. The crowd effect I guess. The 2070 was a mid-range card 7 years ago. For how long people want to use their GTX 970 on new titles before being told it's time to upgrade?

 

[rambo919]

im not seeing issue
minimum 8gb vram gpu from 2018/2019 - 150 bucks max on ebay for both rtx 2070 and rx 5700xt
minimum 8 core cpu from 2018/2019 - 50 bucks

Just because it's that cheap for you does not mean it's that cheap for everyone on the planet....

 

[SyCoREAPER]

Just because it's that cheap for you does not mean it's that cheap for everyone on the planet....

Both your statements hold true. I land in the middle.
Not everyone is privileged to have the funds to upgrade but at he same time you can't cling on to your system and expect it to keep up forever. That's where console gaming comes in. Not a 1:1 but the budget stretches further.

All that aside, ew. While reading other news, I saw and forgot until now who publishes Borderlands.

 

[halfcharlie]

People forget that borderlands 1 and 2 were allready difficult to run. Its mostly a optimization issue and that was highlighted in 3's release when no one on pc could play the thing lol

They weren't, I played on release in triple monitor surround mode, 7680x1440 resolution, ultra settings. Borderlands has always been easy to run, which as mentioned is mostly due to the art style. The PhysX effects in 2/PS btw were amazing, do miss those.

They keeping pushing the price and the hardware needs... Will fail very hard...
BTW will be a great game on torrent mode.

Nope, Denuvo. Also gross.

Unreal Nanite to the "rescue" once again...

Completely unrelated to Nanite. South of Midnight also uses Nanite, has an illustrative artstyle, and is the best performing UE5 game I've played so far.

Lol. First they want to charge 80, then they want to push their ideas and ban anyone who criticizes their agenda; and they still expect people to staunchly support them. Lol! I couldn't care less about this trash, so I couldn't care less what the requirements are.

You're embarrassing yourself to a painful degree. Cringe.

I think a lot of people are out of the loop because they simply ignore a lot of the latest AAA games.... an indication of how bad these products have become.

Couldn't be more wrong. 2023 was widely hailed is the best year of gaming since the legendary 2013, 2024 was even better and this year has been fantastic as well. We're literally on year 3 of the best gaming years in a decade across every level of development. People need to grow up and stop taking out their insecurities on something which is supposed to be for enjoyment, making up things to complain about is just weak. Grasping at straws just to find something to hate on isn't a hobby, and certainly isn't healthy.

Do you have a source for that claim? Because otherwise the same argument could be reversed, by saying "Just because you plan to play it doesn't mean others do as well"

It's called having a clue. You're clearly not a gamer, don't play games, and have no idea about what's going on in the community or industry. Basically, you think living under a rock gives you the right to your own opinion which can only echo to yourself in your rock echo chamber. That isn't how reality works.


It's a damn shame, and completely wrong, that gaming makes such a donkey out of everyone, being a gamer shouldn't make one feel almost ashamed to be associated with what's become the loudest minority of fake gamers who prefer complaining to actually playing. There isn't even anything to get upset about here, it's UE5, anyone who has played a UE5 game knows what to expect, period. Don't use raytracing and it's not even that much harder to run than UE4. The only reason I wouldn't play on launch is because I want to wait for all the DLC like I did for 3 & TTWL, which for BL games is plentiful and worth playing, I didn't get to play the DLC for 1/2/PS until a co-op replay many years later.

 

[thestryker]

Completely unrelated to Nanite. South of Midnight also uses Nanite, has an illustrative artstyle, and is the best performing UE5 game I've played so far.

It's UE4 so there's no Nanite to be had.

 

[rambo919]

Not everyone is privileged to have the funds to upgrade but at he same time you can't cling on to your system and expect it to keep up forever.

This is true.... but no one is trying to stretch it THAT far.... the problem is a combo of upgrade cycles from the game side are shrinking while hardware AND software costs are expanding globally. At this rate so few people will be able to keep up that from that alone many AAA game companies will inevitably go bankrupt.

People have this fiction in their heads that if you can afford a certain tier of hardware you can also afford hardware part X and software Y.... when in reality that is only true for the very high end consumer. In reality people buy the best they can in one area of hardware and coast as much as they can in everything else including not paying for software at all as they approach the bottom end.

When even high end consumers start feeling the pain as has happened now.... the end is already in sight.

 

[rambo919]

Couldn't be more wrong. 2023 was widely hailed is the best year of gaming since the legendary 2013, 2024 was even better and this year has been fantastic as well. We're literally on year 3 of the best gaming years in a decade across every level of development. People need to grow up and stop taking out their insecurities on something which is supposed to be for enjoyment, making up things to complain about is just weak. Grasping at straws just to find something to hate on isn't a hobby, and certainly isn't healthy.

Speaking for only myself.... only one game came out in 2023 that was vaguely of interest in any way.

The ONLY thing of note that happened in 2023 was that PS5 games started appearing on PC.... all of them terribly optimized and many of them disasters for controversial reasons. A year of note but not a repeat of 1999 by any means. 2013 was meh dunno where the legendary status comes from.

EDIT: what might make 2023 seem more important than it was is a lot of games were delayed by the big flu.... so three years of games released in one year.

 

[King_V]

People forget that borderlands 1 and 2 were allready difficult to run. Its mostly a optimization issue and that was highlighted in 3's release when no one on pc could play the thing lol

Never experienced any of this on BL1, BL2, or BL-PS.

Not even my then GF, who was notoriously impatiend and grabbed games she really wanted on launch day (and no amount of warning from me could dissuade her), and was running them on a middle-range laptop.

As for myself and my son, zero problems with running any of the games. I haven't played BL3 but my son has, and, again, no hiccups or issues - definitely would've known about it as I'm his tech support, and his mom and stepdad are NOT computer savvy.

 

[King_V]

Big Flu...

(capitalization mine)

Worst. Supervillain. Ever. 😆 Kinda makes me think of a constantly diseased crime boss.

 

[thesyndrome]

It's called having a clue. You're clearly not a gamer, don't play games, and have no idea about what's going on in the community or industry. Basically, you think living under a rock gives you the right to your own opinion which can only echo to yourself in your rock echo chamber. That isn't how reality works.

So what you're saying is that your source is "I made it up", cool glad we're on the same page. I was hoping you were going to give something like pre-order numbers, instead of just insulting me and making a baseless accusation because you didn't like that I asked you back up your claim.

Also I thought I'd address the "You're clearly not a gamer" comment with evidence of just one part of my gaming collection:

If having one of the oldest Steam accounts with nearly 500 games on it, which I still use every single day makes me "clearly not a gamer" then I don't really know what your metric is

 

[SyCoREAPER]

This is true.... but no one is trying to stretch it THAT far.... the problem is a combo of upgrade cycles from the game side are shrinking while hardware AND software costs are expanding globally. At this rate so few people will be able to keep up that from that alone many AAA game companies will inevitably go bankrupt.

People have this fiction in their heads that if you can afford a certain tier of hardware you can also afford hardware part X and software Y.... when in reality that is only true for the very high end consumer. In reality people buy the best they can in one area of hardware and coast as much as they can in everything else including not paying for software at all as they approach the bottom end.

When even high end consumers start feeling the pain as has happened now.... the end is already in sight.

You do realize just you selectively quoted only one of my two part response from both perspectives and managed to say what I did in one sentence and somehow made 3 paragraphs..

 

[rambo919]

You do realize just you selectively quoted only one of my two part response from both perspectives and managed to say what I did in one sentence and somehow made 3 paragraphs..

It was what was relevant.

 

[Masaim]

That's UE5 for you, but seriously if these requirements are accurate Devs and hardware manufacturers are definitely in kahoots to sell more expensive hardware.

 

[Masaim]

I just hope these requirements aren't with upscaling on, because if not they are pretty fine compared to many games.

 

[LordVile]

Didn’t people say that with BL3 and it turned out to be difficult to run?