THG (P)reviews "Core 2 Quadro" - aka Kentsfield!

[langtu]

Intel was the fisrt one to bring dual socket to market. Remember 440BX chipsets, it can accomodate 2 Pentium II or 2 Pentium III. For the consumer, it did not take off very well. They divide the market into 3 platforms: mobile, desktop, workstation server. Only workstations and servers chipset can accomodate 2 or more processors.

 

[SuperFly03]

I don't know of any company that will OC your chip for you (snip)

Hey! Great new e-biz opportunity. We send experienced overclockers to YOUR HOME and overclock your PC. The bad part is that most of the people that might hire us are guys.

Yeah I don't see it being profitable from that perspective

 

[joset]

But you're right, we are absolutely off topic now so apologies to everybody for polluting the thread.
Cheers

Off topic indeed but a very pleasant read, both yours & gOJDO's.


Cheers!

 

[BaronMatrix]

Ya i know you and some others don't flame people------except baron. But many do so i thought i'd make a prediction to make them look like idiots.

You should hear what people call me. Fanboy, loyalist, noob, brainwashed consumer whore, traitor, enemy of the state

@Apache, i just saw him post

4x4 is not, "half-assed" and even if it doesn't beat kenstfield it will be a powerful platform when some better cpu's are put in it. Like i said, 2H 07' will be a golden time.

Yeah, I give poor Baron a very hard time I can't help it, I have zero respect for him --- the color of his character has shown through more than once.... he is not only not knowlegable about computing in general he is just not a good person, in my opinion. Some of the vulgarity in his posting, Mods had to edit it out. Sad really.

Jack


You're just mad because I think nothing of your chromatograph-type posts with the infantile grammar and attempt to sound official. I guess if I wasn't working on something big I would have responded sooner. Obviously I am ALWAYS on your mind cause you can't keep my name out of your mouth.

Link, no links, correct, incorrect, it doesn't matter, you just suck.

 

[spud]

Ya i know you and some others don't flame people------except baron. But many do so i thought i'd make a prediction to make them look like idiots.

You should hear what people call me. Fanboy, loyalist, noob, brainwashed consumer whore, traitor, enemy of the state

@Apache, i just saw him post

4x4 is not, "half-assed" and even if it doesn't beat kenstfield it will be a powerful platform when some better cpu's are put in it. Like i said, 2H 07' will be a golden time.

Yeah, I give poor Baron a very hard time I can't help it, I have zero respect for him --- the color of his character has shown through more than once.... he is not only not knowlegable about computing in general he is just not a good person, in my opinion. Some of the vulgarity in his posting, Mods had to edit it out. Sad really.

Jack


You're just mad because I think nothing of your chromatograph-type posts with the infantile grammar and attempt to sound official. I guess if I wasn't working on something big I would have responded sooner. Obviously I am ALWAYS on your mind cause you can't keep my name out of your mouth.

Link, no links, correct, incorrect, it doesn't matter, you just suck.

You have a job now? When did this occur?

 

[joset]

You have a job now? When did this occur?

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Cheers!

 

[BaronMatrix]

-word

I am not a fan of marketing bs. 4x4 is some non-tech executives idea of a strategic decsion in order to "buy time" until they can get K8L out the door. The problem is AMD is like mom and pop trying to take on Wal-Mart. Intel has the resources to do it all inhouse and has some damn good people on their payroll (not to down play AMD).

Just look at the amount of work Intel does per processor and how quickly it moves processing techniques, AMD has a hard road ahead and always had. They will survive but I agree K8L better bring something good to the table. Also, C2Q is at least in testing stages and due in a month and 4x4 is what 2 months away? and K8L isn't due until 2H 2007?

Timing is everything.

Edit: I am cynical towards all marketing and bs stuff Intel and AMD alike, so don't think I am anti-AMD or pro-Intel, just enjoy cutting through BS .

Says you. C#\C++\Java\J2EE\JavaBeans developers would kill for an inexpensive (as compared to Opteron) 2 socket board that holds at least 4 GB RAM especially with inexpesive SATA RAID.

I asked for this early this year at voodoopc.blogspot.com. Obviously Rahul Sood was listening, cause Dell can now sell two socket Workstations inexpensively (like they have'nt been able to do since P3) to large AND small dev shops.

I can't wait. It has been reported (TheInq) that Dell will embrace 4x4 when it releases. And as Mr Rollins said Del will have the best range of products ever.

I realize that most of you would like to live in a time when people like you could prove their superiority through denial and negative reinforcment but those times WILL NEVER RETURN. Intel can NOT do anything to Dell. What will they do, say goodbye to 18-25% of the world market?

Dell is due to release Dimension AMD FRIDAY, SEP. 15th so we'll see.

BTW, if you don't believe me search voodoopc.blogspot.com for my posts. 4x4 was MY IDEA.( before Core 2 IIRC)

 

[BaronMatrix]

Ya i know you and some others don't flame people------except baron. But many do so i thought i'd make a prediction to make them look like idiots.

You should hear what people call me. Fanboy, loyalist, noob, brainwashed consumer whore, traitor, enemy of the state

@Apache, i just saw him post

4x4 is not, "half-assed" and even if it doesn't beat kenstfield it will be a powerful platform when some better cpu's are put in it. Like i said, 2H 07' will be a golden time.

Yeah, I give poor Baron a very hard time I can't help it, I have zero respect for him --- the color of his character has shown through more than once.... he is not only not knowlegable about computing in general he is just not a good person, in my opinion. Some of the vulgarity in his posting, Mods had to edit it out. Sad really.

Jack


You're just mad because I think nothing of your chromatograph-type posts with the infantile grammar and attempt to sound official. I guess if I wasn't working on something big I would have responded sooner. Obviously I am ALWAYS on your mind cause you can't keep my name out of your mouth.

Link, no links, correct, incorrect, it doesn't matter, you just suck.

You have a job now? When did this occur?

See what I mean?


PATHETIC!!

 

[joset]

Just like anyone else, you must be better at somethings than others are and vice-versa; it's, mostly, a matter of just facing it...humbly. Above all, it shouldn't really be a matter of being better or worse... but we all know about human nature (some better, some not really...).

MadModMike had this very syndrome; pitty, since he could be knowledgeable & idiotic, at the same time.

(Sorry for the moral lecture; not addressed to me, anyway.).


Cheers!

 

[spud]

-word

I am not a fan of marketing bs. 4x4 is some non-tech executives idea of a strategic decsion in order to "buy time" until they can get K8L out the door. The problem is AMD is like mom and pop trying to take on Wal-Mart. Intel has the resources to do it all inhouse and has some damn good people on their payroll (not to down play AMD).

Just look at the amount of work Intel does per processor and how quickly it moves processing techniques, AMD has a hard road ahead and always had. They will survive but I agree K8L better bring something good to the table. Also, C2Q is at least in testing stages and due in a month and 4x4 is what 2 months away? and K8L isn't due until 2H 2007?

Timing is everything.

Edit: I am cynical towards all marketing and bs stuff Intel and AMD alike, so don't think I am anti-AMD or pro-Intel, just enjoy cutting through BS .

Says you. C#\C++\Java\J2EE\JavaBeans developers would kill for an inexpensive (as compared to Opteron) 2 socket board that holds at least 4 GB RAM especially with inexpesive SATA RAID.

I asked for this early this year at voodoopc.blogspot.com. Obviously Rahul Sood was listening, cause Dell can now sell two socket Workstations inexpensively (like they have'nt been able to do since P3) to large AND small dev shops.

I can't wait. It has been reported (TheInq) that Dell will embrace 4x4 when it releases. And as Mr Rollins said Del will have the best range of products ever.

I realize that most of you would like to live in a time when people like you could prove their superiority through denial and negative reinforcment but those times WILL NEVER RETURN. Intel can NOT do anything to Dell. What will they do, say goodbye to 18-25% of the world market?

Dell is due to release Dimension AMD FRIDAY, SEP. 15th so we'll see.

BTW, if you don't believe me search voodoopc.blogspot.com for my posts. 4x4 was MY IDEA.( before Core 2 IIRC)

Why would people like myself who work with C# want a two socket board with 4GB of RAM? I have enough trouble getting my code stable with one CPU let alone the task of coding for two or more CPU's.

The software I build isn't necessarily all the complicated though, but you really need to sell that idea a bit more even at my experience level I really don't see the need, at least for what I am doing.

Games and media creation software sure, but most of the applications that are say going to be used by a SOHO user or even a medium sized company are going to have to be convinced that their software should be multi threaded.

Again with the AMD based Dell machines crap; you claim such high sales even before the product line is introduced, without providing sufficient customer demand. Whom are they going to sell these two million AMD based machines to? When Intel has been pushing the "look at the Core 2 it’s so fast" bandwagon. To say that Dell's larger customers are unaware of the Core 2 and it's advantages over the current AMD product lines is a bit naive at best don’t you think?

4x4 is your idea now?

 

[spud]

Ya i know you and some others don't flame people------except baron. But many do so i thought i'd make a prediction to make them look like idiots.

You should hear what people call me. Fanboy, loyalist, noob, brainwashed consumer whore, traitor, enemy of the state

@Apache, i just saw him post

4x4 is not, "half-assed" and even if it doesn't beat kenstfield it will be a powerful platform when some better cpu's are put in it. Like i said, 2H 07' will be a golden time.

Yeah, I give poor Baron a very hard time I can't help it, I have zero respect for him --- the color of his character has shown through more than once.... he is not only not knowlegable about computing in general he is just not a good person, in my opinion. Some of the vulgarity in his posting, Mods had to edit it out. Sad really.

Jack


You're just mad because I think nothing of your chromatograph-type posts with the infantile grammar and attempt to sound official. I guess if I wasn't working on something big I would have responded sooner. Obviously I am ALWAYS on your mind cause you can't keep my name out of your mouth.

Link, no links, correct, incorrect, it doesn't matter, you just suck.

You have a job now? When did this occur?

See what I mean?


PATHETIC!!

Last time I checked it was a known fact you did not have a job. I don't keep tabs on you BM if you have a job now good for you.

 

[SuperFly03]

Well me almost made it 8 full pages before the idiots came out of the waterworks.

Think about it... who does Dell mostly sell to(Dimension/Inspiron line)? Ignorant mass market people who know only Intel's name. Not AMD. Dell is going to have a tough time selling AMD dimension when Core 2 puts it to shame. Dell really missed the AMD wagon with the K8 and its glory day over the P4, but that time as come and gone. I wonder what ramaifications switching from only Intel to a Intel/AMD mix will have on Intel based PC prices. That all depends on contracts and information we don't have access to (well yall don't )

I wouldn't be surprised if Dell embraced 4x4, but that doesn't make it smart. Just because the biggest mass market pc seller chooses to adopt something doesn't make it good. A product proves itself worthy on its own.

Honestly, where has the need been for dual CPU boards lately? With the rate at which raw CPU power is increasing, there is no point in shelling out for 2 processors. Buy 1, wait 1 year and you'll have one thats twice as good as your old one (exaggeration but the point is valid). Now back track to when P2 and P3 were being released, how often did Intel switch manufacturing processes? How often did they release "new" chips? I am willing to bet it wasn't nearly as quick as Intel has gotten their latest chips out. C2D has been out for what 2 months max? and we are looking at C2Q by October? Insanity I tell you!

And you do realise that no one here worth their salt takes you seriously... your claim that we prove our superiority through ignorance shows just how ignorant you are.

 

[Action_Man]

Get back to mopping those floors.

 

[intelamduser]

Baron must be about the second smartest person of all time. All of the different things he thought of first and he has basiclly almost reinvented the whole computer industry just by simply thinking up things and telling the manfactuers what and how things should be built. He has also got to be about the most humble person in the entire universe by not bragging about just how intelligent he actually is.

Even Thomas Edison could not match wits with such a dynamo of sheer overwhelming knowledge and futuristic insite.

The smartest person is the one who invented the internet before becoming Vice President of the United States. I imagine Baron thought of it first though and then told Al Gore that he should invent it. I guess this actually makes him the smartest of all time and we should all be proud that we get to read his commentary and can even respond. Although the responses are nothing more than just feable attempts to try and share in the glory of such a great visionary and humanitarian.

 

[1Tanker]

Baron must be about the second smartest person of all time. All of the different things he thought of first and he has basiclly almost reinvented the whole computer industry just by simply thinking up things and telling the manfactuers what and how things should be built. He has also got to be about the most humble person in the entire universe by not bragging about just how intelligent he actually is.

Even Thomas Edison could not match wits with such a dynamo of sheer overwhelming knowledge and futuristic insite.

The smartest person is the one who invented the internet before becoming Vice President of the United States. I imagine Baron thought of it first though and then told Al Gore that he should invent it. I guess this actually makes him the smartest of all time and we should all be proud that we get to read his commentary and can even respond. Although the responses are nothing more than just feable attempts to try and share in the glory of such a great visionary and humanitarian.

Just like "Forrest Gump" 😀

 

[gOJDO]

Clown,

There is a new lame forum with potentional to be the lamest forum on internet ever. Its leader LameNoobMike needs support from trolls like you. Your profile is perfect for a moderator there. Go and never come back. Everybody will be happy including us, you, Shakira, LameNoobMike, 9nm and the rest of the HORDE.

 

[Whizzard9992]

...infantile grammar...

I've never known an infant to speak, so I'm not sure if there is such a thing as "infantile grammar."

Poor Baron's being abused again. Not that he doesn't deserve it, but it's like when the dog gets whacked for sh!tting on the rug. You know he deserves it, but you still have to cringe when it happens.

 

[clue69less]

Just like "Forrest Gump" 😀

Furriest Rump

 

[clue69less]

...infantile grammar...

I've never known an infant to speak, so I'm not sure if there is such a thing as "infantile grammar."

Poor Baron's being abused again. Not that he doesn't deserve it, but it's like when the dog gets whacked for sh!tting on the rug. You know he deserves it, but you still have to cringe when it happens.

Politically correct people no longer hit their dogs.

Barfon: Don't forget to recharge the battery on your shock collar. And tighten up the band another notch. Last time I hit you at level 100, you only got about 4" of air off of the basement concrete. You didn't lower the overclock on that shock collar again, did you? Swear to God, I'm gonna put a Kentsfield in that sucker and blast you into the back yard. Now be a nice doggie and go get my slippers.

Criticizing Jack for infantile grammar is like telling Jimi that his guitar was out of tune on Wild Thing.

 

[BaronMatrix]

-word

I am not a fan of marketing bs. 4x4 is some non-tech executives idea of a strategic decsion in order to "buy time" until they can get K8L out the door. The problem is AMD is like mom and pop trying to take on Wal-Mart. Intel has the resources to do it all inhouse and has some damn good people on their payroll (not to down play AMD).

Just look at the amount of work Intel does per processor and how quickly it moves processing techniques, AMD has a hard road ahead and always had. They will survive but I agree K8L better bring something good to the table. Also, C2Q is at least in testing stages and due in a month and 4x4 is what 2 months away? and K8L isn't due until 2H 2007?

Timing is everything.

Edit: I am cynical towards all marketing and bs stuff Intel and AMD alike, so don't think I am anti-AMD or pro-Intel, just enjoy cutting through BS .

Says you. C#\C++\Java\J2EE\JavaBeans developers would kill for an inexpensive (as compared to Opteron) 2 socket board that holds at least 4 GB RAM especially with inexpesive SATA RAID.

I asked for this early this year at voodoopc.blogspot.com. Obviously Rahul Sood was listening, cause Dell can now sell two socket Workstations inexpensively (like they have'nt been able to do since P3) to large AND small dev shops.

I can't wait. It has been reported (TheInq) that Dell will embrace 4x4 when it releases. And as Mr Rollins said Del will have the best range of products ever.

I realize that most of you would like to live in a time when people like you could prove their superiority through denial and negative reinforcment but those times WILL NEVER RETURN. Intel can NOT do anything to Dell. What will they do, say goodbye to 18-25% of the world market?

Dell is due to release Dimension AMD FRIDAY, SEP. 15th so we'll see.

BTW, if you don't believe me search voodoopc.blogspot.com for my posts. 4x4 was MY IDEA.( before Core 2 IIRC)

Why would people like myself who work with C# want a two socket board with 4GB of RAM? I have enough trouble getting my code stable with one CPU let alone the task of coding for two or more CPU's.

The software I build isn't necessarily all the complicated though, but you really need to sell that idea a bit more even at my experience level I really don't see the need, at least for what I am doing.

Games and media creation software sure, but most of the applications that are say going to be used by a SOHO user or even a medium sized company are going to have to be convinced that their software should be multi threaded.

Again with the AMD based Dell machines crap; you claim such high sales even before the product line is introduced, without providing sufficient customer demand. Whom are they going to sell these two million AMD based machines to? When Intel has been pushing the "look at the Core 2 it’s so fast" bandwagon. To say that Dell's larger customers are unaware of the Core 2 and it's advantages over the current AMD product lines is a bit naive at best don’t you think?

4x4 is your idea now?


You must be a pretty bad programmer. Having dual sockets has NOTHING to do with multithreading. Having 4 cores means not needing a separate Server machine. You can have a VM instead of a dedicated server.

With 4 cores, you can do SQL and Visual Studio and Google and Dev forums and Outlook and Word, etc WITH NO SLOWDOWNS.

Plus you can have a client VM.

And yes I would say that I pushed for it. Do a search on voodoopc.blogspot.com

One of my first posts was about 2 sockets.

 

[gOJDO]

You must be a pretty bad programmer.

And you are such a bad lier.

Having dual sockets has NOTHING to do with multithreading.

Noob, STFU you know nothing about programing. Of course it has a lot,e specialy if you have bottlenecking FSB using for trafic between the sockets.

Having 4 cores means not needing a separate Server machine. You can have a VM instead of a dedicated server.

Lame, lame troll!
You can do the same thing with two cores. Advantage of more than two cores will have someone utilizing 100% the system 24/7. Probably some one who is rendering, encoding or doing some scientific physics/chemistry/EE stuff.

With 4 cores, you can do SQL and Visual Studio and Google and Dev forums and Outlook and Word, etc WITH NO SLOWDOWNS.

I am doing that stuff with my singlecore 3200+. You must be retarded if you need 4 times more CPU potentional than me for the same stuff.

Plus you can have a client VM.

Do I need it all the time?
If yes, than dualcore will do the job perfect since my VM client will not use 100% of my CPU resources, NOOB!

And yes I would say that I pushed for it. Do a search on voodoopc.blogspot.com

One of my first posts was about 2 sockets.

Why don't you do a research for apropriate hospital for mental desaeses like yours?

 

[clue69less]

Why don't you do a research for apropriate hospital for mental desaeses like yours?

Barfon's disease is one-of-a-kind.

"Kids, this is your ego. Barfon is what happens to your ego if you contract Excessive Rectal-Cephallic Impaction Syndrome. The condition has been named Barfon's Disease and fortunately thus far has been effectively quaranteed. All others that contracted Barfon's died following complications due to spinal compaction."

 

[turpit]

Says you. C#\C++\Java\J2EE\JavaBeans developers would kill for an inexpensive (as compared to Opteron) 2 socket board that holds at least 4 GB RAM especially with inexpesive SATA RAID.

I asked for this early this year at voodoopc.blogspot.com. Obviously Rahul Sood was listening, cause Dell can now sell two socket Workstations inexpensively (like they have'nt been able to do since P3) to large AND small dev shops.

I can't wait. It has been reported (TheInq) that Dell will embrace 4x4 when it releases. And as Mr Rollins said Del will have the best range of products ever.

I realize that most of you would like to live in a time when people like you could prove their superiority through denial and negative reinforcment but those times WILL NEVER RETURN. Intel can NOT do anything to Dell. What will they do, say goodbye to 18-25% of the world market?

Dell is due to release Dimension AMD FRIDAY, SEP. 15th so we'll see.

BTW, if you don't believe me search voodoopc.blogspot.com for my posts. 4x4 was MY IDEA.( before Core 2 IIRC)

WOWWWWW

I'll bet you invented the internet too, didnt you???

So if I ask AMD to design a CPU that will explode violently when it detects that its processing bullshit, do you think they'll build it and send it to you for Beta testing?

 

[joset]

And as Mr Rollins said Del will have the best range of products ever.

I do not doubt that, with/without AMD 4x4, Intel amphetamines^0, coming from Mr. Rollins or the Inq.; Dell will certainly have it.

I realize that most of you would like to live in a time when people like you could prove their superiority through denial and negative reinforcment but those times WILL NEVER RETURN. Intel can NOT do anything to Dell. What will they do, say goodbye to 18-25% of the world market?

Probably.
Now, you do realize that you're going way off of any reasonable argumentation, just because, don't you? I'm in denial, for the time being; you've got that one right. I do not believe you're that dumb. See?!
But you're trying hard to prove otherwise & even insult other people's intelligence (yes, intelligence) in the name of AMD & all it represents for you! Do you consider others guilty of your obsession?! Do you lack any kind of versatility which hampers your ability to change tactics & counter-argument with logical & reasonable arguments?! Are you ashamed of saying I don't know better?
'Cause I don't believe you're doing it just for fun... or because you're ill. I'm in denial, see?! I just don't believe you. Try harder.

BTW, if you don't believe me search voodoopc.blogspot.com for my posts. 4x4 was MY IDEA.( before Core 2 IIRC)

How come you have to start a sentence with «BTW, if you don't believe me...»?! Are you that desperate?! Are you expecting anyone to care?! Can you cry "wolf!" again?! Try harder. This time, I will not apologize.

 

[ElMoIsEviL]

-word

I am not a fan of marketing bs. 4x4 is some non-tech executives idea of a strategic decsion in order to "buy time" until they can get K8L out the door. The problem is AMD is like mom and pop trying to take on Wal-Mart. Intel has the resources to do it all inhouse and has some damn good people on their payroll (not to down play AMD).

Just look at the amount of work Intel does per processor and how quickly it moves processing techniques, AMD has a hard road ahead and always had. They will survive but I agree K8L better bring something good to the table. Also, C2Q is at least in testing stages and due in a month and 4x4 is what 2 months away? and K8L isn't due until 2H 2007?

Timing is everything.

Edit: I am cynical towards all marketing and bs stuff Intel and AMD alike, so don't think I am anti-AMD or pro-Intel, just enjoy cutting through BS .

Says you. C#\C++\Java\J2EE\JavaBeans developers would kill for an inexpensive (as compared to Opteron) 2 socket board that holds at least 4 GB RAM especially with inexpesive SATA RAID.

I asked for this early this year at voodoopc.blogspot.com. Obviously Rahul Sood was listening, cause Dell can now sell two socket Workstations inexpensively (like they have'nt been able to do since P3) to large AND small dev shops.

I can't wait. It has been reported (TheInq) that Dell will embrace 4x4 when it releases. And as Mr Rollins said Del will have the best range of products ever.

I realize that most of you would like to live in a time when people like you could prove their superiority through denial and negative reinforcment but those times WILL NEVER RETURN. Intel can NOT do anything to Dell. What will they do, say goodbye to 18-25% of the world market?

Dell is due to release Dimension AMD FRIDAY, SEP. 15th so we'll see.

BTW, if you don't believe me search voodoopc.blogspot.com for my posts. 4x4 was MY IDEA.( before Core 2 IIRC)


4x4 wasn't your idea... what sort of moron are you. Man you should be banned from THG.. all these false delusions of grandeur and you can't even properly argue a single point.

I know you don't realize it, but you're not intelligent.. not at all. No one thinks you are either (save people who are less intelligent then you are but that's logical).

Why do you continue to believe you're in some way tied to AMD's success?