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I am in the Lost City I got The Talisman of Fire but, I can't get back
the way I came. Every Walkthru I read says to go back the way you
came. When I get to the balcony that is surround by lava I see the
doorway I jumped through earlier but, when I jump I get only about
half way there and hit the lava. Is that jump impossible?

Another way I tryed is to jump through the hole across from the tower
where you get The Talisman of Fire. This time I get very close but, I
never make the jump.

How do I get back? Both the jump from the balcony and the jump to the
opening across from the tower seem impossible? Is there a another
out?

TIA
 
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really bad bug in level design.
you need a previous save game (pre first gap crossing)
or cheat your way to the next level.

this happened to me as well.

you were supposed to extend a bridge before crossing the first time.
but you can also jump it if you are good enough.
that is the problem.
 
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On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 01:17:19 GMT, "Andrew E. Wiggin" <noone@home.com>
wrote:

>really bad bug in level design.
>you need a previous save game (pre first gap crossing)
>or cheat your way to the next level.
>
>this happened to me as well.
>
>you were supposed to extend a bridge before crossing the first time.
>but you can also jump it if you are good enough.
>that is the problem.
>
How do I extend the bridge?
 
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"Andrew E. Wiggin" <noone@home.com> writes:

> you were supposed to extend a bridge before crossing the first time.
> but you can also jump it if you are good enough.

I thought the return jump was impossible? Anyway, Thief Gold fixed
the problem by making the initial jump impossible so that the
subsequent "how do I get back" problem never comes up.

--
Darin Johnson
"Particle Man, Particle Man, doing the things a particle can"
 
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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 17:32:55 -0700, Drax <Drax@never.com> wrote:

>I am in the Lost City I got The Talisman of Fire but, I can't get back
>the way I came. Every Walkthru I read says to go back the way you
>came. When I get to the balcony that is surround by lava I see the
>doorway I jumped through earlier but, when I jump I get only about
>half way there and hit the lava. Is that jump impossible?
>
>Another way I tryed is to jump through the hole across from the tower
>where you get The Talisman of Fire. This time I get very close but, I
>never make the jump.
>
>How do I get back? Both the jump from the balcony and the jump to the
>opening across from the tower seem impossible? Is there a another
>out?

If you don't have the necessary save, try a circle jump:

http://www.cpma.org.uk/index.php?action=view_comments&item_id=102363491900&PHPSESSID=7d246c82a39587541a1af2c15bcf9cb6

excerpt:

"To perform a circle jump, you start from a standing position, use the
speed generated by a tight turn to gain extra speed. In practice, this
means standing with your intended destination to your left or right,
then turning around 90 degrees, forming a quarter circle on the floor
with your footsteps, then pressing jump at the apex of this turn to
leap directly towards your target. Smaller angles than 90 degrees work
as well, but start with 90 for the purposes of learning"

This ain't Quake3, by any stretch, but you do gain a bit of jumpspeed
by doing a circle jump, in Thief too.
--
_______________________________________________
Always cross a vampire, never moon a werewolf

To reach me, swap spammers get bent with softhome
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
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On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 16:59:08 +0200, "Adam Prenosil"
<iprenosil@volny.cz> wrote:

>Did you try kangaroo jumping?
>
Have you got a speed potion ? The faster you run the further you
jump!
 
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On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 19:50:23 +0100, Spud <spud@tatties.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 16:59:08 +0200, "Adam Prenosil"
><iprenosil@volny.cz> wrote:
>
>>Did you try kangaroo jumping?
>>
>Have you got a speed potion ? The faster you run the further you
>jump!

No speed potion 🙁
 
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On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 19:36:24 -0700, Drax <Drax@never.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 19:50:23 +0100, Spud <spud@tatties.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 16:59:08 +0200, "Adam Prenosil"
>><iprenosil@volny.cz> wrote:
>>
>>>Did you try kangaroo jumping?
>>>
>>Have you got a speed potion ? The faster you run the further you
>>jump!
>
>No speed potion 🙁

I found this in the TTLG forums. It may help:

Originally posted by Lord Garrett:
if you're willing to lose some health, try this: next to the tower
with the talisman is a hole. jump into the middle of the lava, and
like a madman, run very fast to the hole. mantle up quickly and then
go from there.
 
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On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 07:59:02 +0100, Spud <spud@tatties.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 19:36:24 -0700, Drax <Drax@never.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 19:50:23 +0100, Spud <spud@tatties.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 16:59:08 +0200, "Adam Prenosil"
>>><iprenosil@volny.cz> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Did you try kangaroo jumping?
>>>>
>>>Have you got a speed potion ? The faster you run the further you
>>>jump!
>>
>>No speed potion 🙁
>
>I found this in the TTLG forums. It may help:
>
>Originally posted by Lord Garrett:
>if you're willing to lose some health, try this: next to the tower
>with the talisman is a hole. jump into the middle of the lava, and
>like a madman, run very fast to the hole. mantle up quickly and then
>go from there.

As soon as you touch the lava you die; you can't move or do anything
after you touch the lava 🙁
 
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In article <zG35d.2036147$y4.346084@news.easynews.com>, Andrew E.
Wiggin <noone@home.com> wrote:

> really bad bug in level design.
> you need a previous save game (pre first gap crossing)
> or cheat your way to the next level.
>
> this happened to me as well.
>
> you were supposed to extend a bridge before crossing the first time.
> but you can also jump it if you are good enough.
> that is the problem.

What you do is consume a healing potion mid-jump. Then as your health
decreases the potion counteracts the decline. But you cannot take it
before the jump or else you reach the health ceiling and the health
rate increase is wasted. So really, jump, take the health mid-air,
land ON THE LAVA, but quick get over to the otherside with very little
health left.

--
Dan Stephenson
Photos and movies from US Parks and all over Europe:
http://homepage.mac.com/stepheda
 
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On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 04:21:58 GMT, Dan Stephenson
<stephedanospam@mac.com> wrote:

>In article <zG35d.2036147$y4.346084@news.easynews.com>, Andrew E.
>Wiggin <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>> really bad bug in level design.
>> you need a previous save game (pre first gap crossing)
>> or cheat your way to the next level.
>>
>> this happened to me as well.
>>
>> you were supposed to extend a bridge before crossing the first time.
>> but you can also jump it if you are good enough.
>> that is the problem.
>
>What you do is consume a healing potion mid-jump. Then as your health
>decreases the potion counteracts the decline. But you cannot take it
>before the jump or else you reach the health ceiling and the health
>rate increase is wasted. So really, jump, take the health mid-air,
>land ON THE LAVA, but quick get over to the otherside with very little
>health left.

Your health does not decrease you just die. The second you touch the
lava you die instantly.
 
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On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 12:36:04 -0700, Drax <Drax@never.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 07:59:02 +0100, Spud <spud@tatties.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 19:36:24 -0700, Drax <Drax@never.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 19:50:23 +0100, Spud <spud@tatties.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 16:59:08 +0200, "Adam Prenosil"
>>>><iprenosil@volny.cz> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Did you try kangaroo jumping?
>>>>>
>>>>Have you got a speed potion ? The faster you run the further you
>>>>jump!
>>>
>>>No speed potion 🙁
>>
>>I found this in the TTLG forums. It may help:
>>
>>Originally posted by Lord Garrett:
>>if you're willing to lose some health, try this: next to the tower
>>with the talisman is a hole. jump into the middle of the lava, and
>>like a madman, run very fast to the hole. mantle up quickly and then
>>go from there.
>
>As soon as you touch the lava you die; you can't move or do anything
>after you touch the lava 🙁

Can't really help, I'm afraid - I've got Thief Gold. Try asking your
question in the TTLG forums here: http://www.ttlg.com/ and/or the
Eidos forms here: http://forums.eidosgames.com/
 
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Drax wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 01:17:19 GMT, "Andrew E. Wiggin" <noone@home.com>
> wrote:
>
>> really bad bug in level design.
>> you need a previous save game (pre first gap crossing)
>> or cheat your way to the next level.
>>
>> this happened to me as well.
>>
>> you were supposed to extend a bridge before crossing the first time.
>> but you can also jump it if you are good enough.
>> that is the problem.
>>
> How do I extend the bridge?

Use the lever obtained where you got the water talisman.
I hope I remember correctly that's where it was.....
 
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