This one, or this one?

[krayde]

I would never pay extra money for an overclocked version of a card just get the cheapest gtx 470 you can find and overclock it yourself with a free utility such as msi afterburner. Processor can be overclocked in the bios, but again, without knowing your motherboard I cannot direct you any further with that. Also you do not want to just start overclocking it if you have no clue what your doing, I would start a new thread in the appropriate forum for that to learn about overclocking. It involves incrementing and testing, there is no "fool proof" method although it is not hard. Also you looking at a marginal fram increase for the superclocked version which usually increases the cost of the graphics card significantly. Go with the cheapest gtx 470 you can find and overclock it yourself, if not the superclocked version will not be a whole lot better than the standard version and not worth it in my opinion.

More importantly you need to get a new power supply and video card than worry about overclocking your cpu and gpu

Couldn't have said it better myself, thanks a lot man. Soo... Do you know any good power supplies not to pricey?

 

[17seconds]

Are we talking about the GTX 470 or GTX 470 SOC, or are they the same?

Please read the review I linked. Yes, the Gigabyte SOC is a custom build with a very quiet and effective custom cooler. After reading through numerous reviews, this particular card really stands out.

 

[jjb8675309]

also here is a benchmark for WOW using the cards which you are considering buying I would definatley check this out:

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,743498/Geforce-GTX-480-and-GTX-470-reviewed-Fermi-performance-benchmarks/Reviews/?page=15

 

[krayde]

Please read the review I linked. Yes, the Gigabyte SOC is a custom build with a very quiet and effective custom cooler. After reading through numerous reviews, this particular card really stands out.

Yup, i am reading it. @ page 3atm

 

[krayde]

But do you agree with jjb8675309 then MattO17secs? That it isnt worth buying a 470 SOC over the ordinary 470?

 

[jjb8675309]

Yup, i am reading it. @ page 3atm

from past experience with gigabyte I would say that they are a very quality manufacturer of motherboards and gpus. However it all depends on price if you are paying 50-60 extra than no its def not worth it. But if the prices are marginally different and you do not know how to overclock than it might be a good idea to get the superclocked ed. It all depends on price, do realize though that although the gigabyte card may stay cooler and have a higher clock it is still a gtx 470 chip and will not be much different from any other gtx 470 cards. I can however say that I better designed cooler on a card is a big thing if you have an old case with bad airflow especially how enclosed a packard bell I imagine to be. it all depends on what your goigng to do with it for the average user the standard clock gtx 470 is more than enough an will likley save you a few bucks but if you can pick up to superclocked ed for a small price more than go for it by all means, really you cant go too wrong either way

 

[krayde]

from past experience with gigabyte I would say that they are a very quality manufacturer of motherboards and gpus

Ehm... What do u mean m8?

 

[jjb8675309]

Ehm... What do u mean m8?

gigabyte is usually top of the line quality

 

[krayde]

gigabyte is usually top of the line quality

Is Gigabyte a producer like etc. NiVidia?

 

[17seconds]

But do you agree with jjb8675309 then MattO17secs? That it isnt worth buying a 470 SOC over the ordinary 470?

Normally I would, but the overclock is not the main selling point for this card. The custom cooler is really what sets the Gigabyte apart. The regular GTX470 has been plagued by the well-documented heat and noise issue. Overclocking the reference cooler only adds more heat and noise. With a custom cooler, the Gigabyte SOC is "nearly silent", as the review says, and it keeps the card a full 20c cooler at load than the stock card. Add in the factory overclock for even better performance, and it's a pretty good combination. As you can see from the review, it comes very close to top of the line GTX480 performance, and generally beats the 5870 in the games you mentioned you wanted to play.

This review from Tom's Hardware also points out the differences in the card's design:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gv-n470SO-13I-super-overclock-geforce-gtx-470,2713.html

"Gigabyte's card has a unique circuit board that differs from the reference model. The GV-N470SO-13I sports a beefy 14-phase PWM design, with 12 phases for the GPU and two phases for the memory. Gigabyte’s Ultra Durable VGA+ specification covers a blanket of features that it claims provides the following benefits: 2 oz. copper PCB for better cooling, tier-one Samsung and Hynix memory for better overclocking potential, Japanese solid capacitors for reliability, ferrite core/metal chokes to prevent energy loss, low RDS on MOFSET for faster electric current charging and discharging, and high-quality film capacitors. We have tested Gigabyte's Ultra Durable claims in the past--specifically the benefits of 2 oz. of copper on the PCB--and found the results have some merit."

"Gigabyte’s GV-N470SO-13I Super Overclock edition card performs very well compared to Nvidia’s reference GeForce GTX 470. The ~100 MHz core clock and ~200 MHz shader clock rate advantage result in tangible speed-ups in a number of games. More importantly, the Gigabyte card manages to pull off better performance while using less power than the reference card, sustaining cooler GPU temperatures, and generating less noise in the process."

"Gigabyte’s Super Overclock card has to be the most impressive GeForce GTX 470 we’ve seen yet."

 

[krayde]

Normally I would, but the overclock is not the main selling point for this card. The custom cooler is really what sets the Gigabyte apart. The regular GTX470 has been plagued by the well-documented heat and noise issue. Overclocking the reference cooler only adds more heat and noise. With a custom cooler, the Gigabyte SOC is "nearly silent", as the review says, and it keeps the card a full 20c cooler at load than the stock card. Add in the factory overclock for even better performance, and it's a pretty good combination. As you can see from the review, it comes very close to top of the line GTX480 performance, and generally beats the 5870 in the games you mentioned you wanted to play.

This review from Tom's Hardware also points out the differences in the card's design:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gv-n470SO-13I-super-overclock-geforce-gtx-470,2713.html

"Gigabyte's card has a unique circuit board that differs from the reference model. The GV-N470SO-13I sports a beefy 14-phase PWM design, with 12 phases for the GPU and two phases for the memory. Gigabyte’s Ultra Durable VGA+ specification covers a blanket of features that it claims provides the following benefits: 2 oz. copper PCB for better cooling, tier-one Samsung and Hynix memory for better overclocking potential, Japanese solid capacitors for reliability, ferrite core/metal chokes to prevent energy loss, low RDS on MOFSET for faster electric current charging and discharging, and high-quality film capacitors. We have tested Gigabyte's Ultra Durable claims in the past--specifically the benefits of 2 oz. of copper on the PCB--and found the results have some merit."

"Gigabyte’s GV-N470SO-13I Super Overclock edition card performs very well compared to Nvidia’s reference GeForce GTX 470. The ~100 MHz core clock and ~200 MHz shader clock rate advantage result in tangible speed-ups in a number of games. More importantly, the Gigabyte card manages to pull off better performance while using less power than the reference card, sustaining cooler GPU temperatures, and generating less noise in the process."

"Gigabyte’s Super Overclock card has to be the most impressive GeForce GTX 470 we’ve seen yet."

Sounds good enough for me! So exatly what is this card called? GeForce GTX 470 Super Overclock?

 

[krayde]

nvm, i found out. Gigabyte GeForce 470 Super Overclock, correct?

 

[17seconds]

nvm, i found out. Gigabyte GeForce 470 Super Overclock, correct?

The Newegg link in my first post has the SKU# and full name.

 

[krayde]

The Newegg link in my first post has the SKU# and full name.

Ah thanks! I will be reading that review aswell after im done reading 1000 others
And oh yeah, im still tryin' to find out which mobo i have, and next to the cable that goes into my PSU there's a label which says: 230VAC, is this is? Im trying not to open *** up, cus this case is such a pain in the ass

 

[borisof007]

Holy smokes, I go to my sales meeting and come back to 20 responses.

I'll just step back now, XD

 

[krayde]

Holy smokes, I go to my sales meeting and come back to 20 responses.

I'll just step back now, XD

Haha you do that, GL!

 

[17seconds]

Ah thanks! I will be reading that review aswell after im done reading 1000 others
And oh yeah, im still tryin' to find out which mobo i have, and next to the cable that goes into my PSU there's a label which says: 230VAC, is this is? Im trying not to open *** up, cus this case is such a pain in the ass

I think that is voltage. You want wattage. Your case probably comes open with a couple screws. You'll have to open it up to install a video card (I suppose that will be another thread!), so you might as well try it out now before you spend all your budget.

 

[krayde]

I think that is voltage. You want wattage. Your case probably comes open with a couple screws. You'll have to open it up to install a video card (I suppose that will be another thread!), so you might as well try it out now before you spend all your budget.

lol true, is it necessary to shut down the PC?

 

[krayde]

And oh lol, i did DXDIAG in the run. And there it says:

System Information

Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.100618-1621)
Language: Swedish (Regional Setting: Swedish)
System Manufacturer: PACKARD BELL BV
System Model: IMEDIA A6500 NCD
BIOS: BIOS Date: 08/05/08 10:31:05 Ver: 08.00.14
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) 9500 Quad-Core Processor (4 CPUs), ~2.2GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 4096MB RAM
Page File: 3162MB used, 5026MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 32bit Unicode

Display Devices
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GS
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 9500 GS
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0644&SUBSYS_9600174B&REV_A1
Display Memory: 2287 MB
Dedicated Memory: 495 MB
Shared Memory: 1791 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: SMBX2335
Monitor Id: SAM0701
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
Output Type: HD15
Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver File Version: 8.17.0012.5896 (English)
Driver Version: 8.17.12.5896
DDI Version: 10
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 7/10/2010 05:38:00, 12471400 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4504-11CF-F363-0CB61FC2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0644
SubSys ID: 0x9600174B
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Driver Strong Name: oem9.inf:NVIDIA_SetA_Devices.NTamd64.6.1:Section003:8.17.12.5896ci\ven_10de&dev_0644
Rank Of Driver: 00E62001
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C ModeVC1_C ModeWMV9_C

lol i did notice it was quite alot of info lol

 

[17seconds]

lol true, is it necessary to shut down the PC?

Shut down the PC and unplug the power cord.

 

[krayde]

Shut down the PC and unplug the power cord.

Alright, i take it u didnt find what u need in the big post above?

 

[17seconds]

Alright, i take it u didnt find what u need in the big post above?

Any reference to the IMEDIA A6500 NCD is in a language I don't speak. I'm guessing the PSU in your PC will not be enough.

By the way, if you're Swedish, I'm a big fan of Zetterberg, Lidstrom, Holmstrom, Franzen, and any other Swedish players on the Detroit Red Wings.

 

[krayde]

Any reference to the IMEDIA A6500 NCD is in a language I don't speak. I'm guessing the PSU in your PC will not be enough.

By the way, if you're Swedish, I'm a big fan of Zetterberg, Lidstrom, Holmstrom, Franzen, and any other Swedish players on the Detroit Red Wings.

Hehe i wouldnt know, i aint into sports, but its Hockey, yeah?

And no, the Graphic Cards prolly wont fit into my PSU due to low watt. Hmm, i want the Gtx 470 overclock, but all i can find is a sli model, Gigabyte GeForce GTX 470 Super Overclocked Edition 1280MB GDDR5 / PCI-E 2.0 / SLI / 2xDVI, wich the cheapest is 410.2$ online, to buy in store is a bit more expensive.

Another is the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 470 1.25GB GDDR5 / PCI-E 2.0 / DVI wich cheapest cost 378.77$ online, but this one dosnt have a "overclock" in its name so i take it its just the normal GTX 470?

Any thoughts?

 

[17seconds]

Hehe i wouldnt know, i aint into sports, but its Hockey, yeah?

And no, the Graphic Cards prolly wont fit into my PSU due to low watt. Hmm, i want the Gtx 470 overclock, but all i can find is a sli model, Gigabyte GeForce GTX 470 Super Overclocked Edition 1280MB GDDR5 / PCI-E 2.0 / SLI / 2xDVI, wich the cheapest is 410.2$ online, to buy in store is a bit more expensive.

Another is the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 470 1.25GB GDDR5 / PCI-E 2.0 / DVI wich cheapest cost 378.77$ online, but this one dosnt have a "overclock" in its name so i take it its just the normal GTX 470?

Any thoughts?

If you are not getting the Superoverclock version, then go for the cheapest GTX470 available. You need a power supply capable of delivering ~550-600 watts. You may want to consider a slight downgrade to a GTX460 if power and the rest of your system are not ideal for a 470.

 

[krayde]

If you are not getting the Superoverclock version, then go for the cheapest GTX470 available. You need a power supply capable of delivering ~550-600 watts. You may want to consider a slight downgrade to a GTX460 if power and the rest of your system are not ideal for a 470.

Hmm, well. Im going for the superclock, maybe the GTX470 if money dosnt allow. But in order to run a Superclock, we all know I need a better PSU. Aight, so im sitting here lookin on diffrent PSU's that allows 550w+, the cheapest one with 550w i can find on this particular site is the Corsair VX 550W 80+. Is this good? Know anything better?