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I am upgrading an old pc:

HDD - Seagate Barracuda Hard Drive 1T
CPU - AMD (Piledriver) FX-6300 3.50GHz (4.10GHz Turbo)
RAM - Ballistix Sport 8GB (2x4GB) 1600MHz CL9 DDR3
GPU - Sapphire Radeon R9 270X Dual-X Boost OC AMD Graphics Card 2GB Graphics Card
MB - Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P AMD Socket AM3+ Motherboard
PSU - 500W - EVGA 80+ White Rated Power Supply
CASE - Corsair 200r

I want to upgrade to something like this, keeping some of the old parts.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/tkWcvV

I was originally going to get a 1060 6GB but heard that the 580 is better and is cheaper.
What would you change/add, and could you reccomend a motherboard. Cheers
 
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This is the original Wraith which was sold with Bulldozer CPUs. For Ryzen, there are 3 new models: Wraith Stealth on 1400, Wraith Spire on other non-x CPUs and 1500X, and Wraith MAX, which is not sold in retail. The latter is even heavier (thus probably better) than the original Wraith from these tests. But Wraith Spire, which we are talking about, is much more modest and cheaper design- very good for a stock cooler, but not as good as proper aftermarket coolers.
To the OP: sorry for offtopic
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You lack a supporting motherboard in the link. You could get the 1600 that comes with the wraith cooler. The wraith is about as good as the 212. Spend the extra on getting 16GB's of RAM. If you go with the 912 get it from neweggas that model has usb 3.0.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($218.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($88.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($113.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 580 8GB ARMOR OC Video Card ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12G 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($56.89 @ Newegg)
Total: $808.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-22 19:57 EDT-0400
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor (£214.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.97 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: MSI Z270-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£105.57 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£62.94 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£46.98 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 580 8GB Gaming 8G Video Card (£221.94 @ Aria PC)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£56.31 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £732.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-23 00:49 BST+0100

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151094 is a better quality PSU.
 
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I can get this deal on aria, would this motherboard be good?
https://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Other+products/Intel+i5+7600K+CPU+%2B+Gigabyte+Z270P-D3+Motherboard+?productId=67503
 
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I wouldn't say that's a deal but it isn't a bad bundle. Good? Yes.
 
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PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8HrMd6
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8HrMd6/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£179.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£86.79 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£67.94 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£41.95 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 480 8GB Dual OC Video Card (£207.60 @ Aria PC)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Blue) ATX Mid Tower Case (£64.17 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£68.80 @ Alza)
Total: £717.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-23 01:14 BST+0100
 
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also why are you insistent on sticking with that psu ?

edit : i purchased a cpu from from aria and the box came damaged .. and this was one of their deals... the fan on the cpu turned out to be intermittent. meaning my cpu overheated and the pc shut down.. i'm just giving you a word of warning that every deal that looks good isn't. when something looks too good it usually is . that is nothing against aria .. but that wasn't a good experience
 
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I'll just comment on this: Wraith Spire on R5 1600 is not as good as Cooler master 212. Maybe the Wraith Max is, but it is not available boxed with Ryzen CPUs, only to system builders. I have a R5 1600, I can affirm Wraith Spire is sufficient to tap most overclocking potential of the chip (1600 at ~3,8GHz+ at 1,35V should be fine and cool enough for most chips), but 212 is much better:
https://youtu.be/VNjkDoYZYjU?t=271
 
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do you have any reviews or such to back that up ? just for future reference .. i mean it's ok if someone repeated what you said but if they had no source to back that up.. it's meaningless. if you get me .

edit : i missed the link at the bottom.. d'oh
 
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Like I said, Wraith Spire is still good enough for general overclocking- it just does not allow getting the last 100-200MHz at good temps. But these high clocks may also need voltages of 1.4V-1.45V- and some people are reporting Ryzen overclocking capability degrade at 1.45V pretty fast. So maybe it's all for the best:)
But I'll add some notes with that:
1) Wraith Spire comes free- so it may be worth using it at the start, and wait for community to get more experience with Ryzen overclocking.
2) In just games, R5 1600 CPU will not be even loaded much (except a few games, like Battlefiel1 multiplayer that WILL put load on it). But generally- temps and noise can be fine in games on WS even with overclock.
3) For CPU OC for heavy tasks- I would suggest getting better cooler at once- system will be much happier.
4) WS has a copper core and nice fan, but it is a small cooler with aluminum radiator- much smaller than 212, so weaker performance was to be expected.
 
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in general though if you someone makes a cpu for overclocking purposes... you're going to test that cpu to extremes .. because that is natural.. so not to improve the cooler and then charge a little bit more because the cooler is that good.. is an oversight .. and that would go for any cpu manufacturer not just amd .

all the info that we can get on the ryzen for comparison is essential so i thank you for your youtube link and reply .

edit: to clarify because i agree in most parts with your post . is that the cm 212 as been available for a while .. so AMD and INTEL have had the opportunity to say.. that cooler is popular.. why? and how can we improve on that for our stock.. and if we can't .. why not team up .. and go with that cooler in the box .
 
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Sorry I just got back. Here is the info. These are results from stock. Note the 212 tho does take take back lead during overclock but its not by much.
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Understand it was once very good and my favorite. Now tho a $19 cryorig M9i/M9a can match the aged cooler.
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This is the original Wraith which was sold with Bulldozer CPUs. For Ryzen, there are 3 new models: Wraith Stealth on 1400, Wraith Spire on other non-x CPUs and 1500X, and Wraith MAX, which is not sold in retail. The latter is even heavier (thus probably better) than the original Wraith from these tests. But Wraith Spire, which we are talking about, is much more modest and cheaper design- very good for a stock cooler, but not as good as proper aftermarket coolers.
To the OP: sorry for offtopic
 
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