Question Three System BSODs ?

[ubuysa]

Do a web search for 'psu calculator', you'll find several that will help you size the PSU. Most of them calculate the actual power required and then add a 20% overhead. I like to overspec my PSUs, they really are the most important component IMO, so I generally add another 20% minimum.

 

[DevanDrake99]

Do you simply multiply the recommended power by 0.20? EG: 294x0.20=48.2 and then calculate 294+48.2=289.2?

 

[ubuysa]

I take the wattage the calculator comes up with, which already has a 20% overhead built in, and then I add on at least another 20% and round up to the next model size. For example, if the calculator say 635W required then I add in another 20% (127W) making a total of 762W. For me, a 750W PSU isn't enough so I would go for an 850W PSU. That's actually what I did with my recent build.

 

[DevanDrake99]

I'm starting to have frequent BSODs again after installing the new 5TB external HDD from Seagate.

 

[DevanDrake99]

I'm starting to have frequent BSODs again after installing the new 5TB external HDD from Seagate.

Here's the fresh new Sysnative file. https://www.mediafire.com/file/bh87hqz9rq79op9/SysnativeFileCollectionApp.zip/file

 

[DevanDrake99]

Here are the new minidumps.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/xva7lkrdlya5lcc/121024-48343-01.dmp/file

https://www.mediafire.com/file/audlplvzj996b75/121024-70046-01.dmp/file

https://www.mediafire.com/file/jtyecxdegd5vzon/121224-57218-01.dmp/file

https://www.mediafire.com/file/shwvajvjlc1nrv5/121224-80781-01.dmp/file

https://www.mediafire.com/file/b378o23py11mwzj/121324-56000-01.dmp/file

 

[ubuysa]

In that Sysnative file it appears the the single RAM stick is in slot B2? Can you check that, the motherboard manual (page 10) indicates that a single stick should be in slot A2.

 

[DevanDrake99]

In that Sysnative file it appears the the single RAM stick is in slot B2? Can you check that, the motherboard manual (page 10) indicates that a single stick should be in slot A2.

You mean DDR4_2? For the longest time, I've been using two RAM sticks on DDR4_3 and DDR4_1.

 

[DevanDrake99]

I already placed the stick to slot A2, but it's still blue screening. I'll make another Sysnative file right away.

 

[DevanDrake99]

Here's the new Sysnative file with the stick being placed to slot A2. https://www.mediafire.com/file/33aphj4ewihe51j/SysnativeFileCollectionApp%284%29.zip/file

 

[DevanDrake99]

I also got a BSOD even while in safe mode with minimal proccesses including the Plex Media Server.

 

[ubuysa]

If it BSODs in Safe Mode then it's almost certainly a hardware problem.

You've tested RAM so I'd use Prime95 to stress test the CPU...

1. Download Prime95 and a CPU temperature monitor (CoreTemp will do).
2. Keep the temperature monitor running all the time you run Prime95. Your CPU will get hot!
3. Run each of the three Prime95 tests (smallFFTs, largeFFTs, and Blend) one after the other for a minimum of 1 hour per test, 2 hours per test would be better.
4. If Prime95 generates error messages, if the system crashes/freezes/BSODs, or if your CPU temp reaches 95°C (Tmax for your CPU), then stop Prime95 and let us know what happened.

Note that a properly cooled and stable CPU should be able to run all Prime95 tests pretty much indefinitely.

FYI: The small FFT test stresses the CPU more than RAM. The large FFT test stresses RAM more than the CPU. The Blend test is a mixture of the two.

I still think the PSU might be the cause....

 

[DevanDrake99]

If it BSODs in Safe Mode then it's almost certainly a hardware problem.

You've tested RAM so I'd use Prime95 to stress test the CPU...

1. Download Prime95 and a CPU temperature monitor (CoreTemp will do).
2. Keep the temperature monitor running all the time you run Prime95. Your CPU will get hot!
3. Run each of the three Prime95 tests (smallFFTs, largeFFTs, and Blend) one after the other for a minimum of 1 hour per test, 2 hours per test would be better.
4. If Prime95 generates error messages, if the system crashes/freezes/BSODs, or if your CPU temp reaches 95°C (Tmax for your CPU), then stop Prime95 and let us know what happened.

Note that a properly cooled and stable CPU should be able to run all Prime95 tests pretty much indefinitely.

FYI: The small FFT test stresses the CPU more than RAM. The large FFT test stresses RAM more than the CPU. The Blend test is a mixture of the two.

I still think the PSU might be the cause....

I encountered a fatal error in one of the threads.

[Thu Dec 19 20:25:33 2024]
FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4
Hardware failure detected running 80K FFT size, consult stress.txt file.
FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 6.368154947e+16, expected less than 0.4
Hardware failure detected running 80K FFT size, consult stress.txt file.

 

[DevanDrake99]

Worker 5 was having problems.

 

[ubuysa]

On which test (smallFFTs, largeFFTs, or Blend)?

Either way that indicates a hardware issue, either bad RAM, bad CPU, or(still) a flaky PSU.

 

[DevanDrake99]

On which test (smallFFTs, largeFFTs, or Blend)?

Either way that indicates a hardware issue, either bad RAM, bad CPU, or(still) a flaky PSU.

smallFFTs. So that would indicate a CPU issue. I would probably have to replace the CPU.

 

[ubuysa]

Did you ever get the PSU checked? We had reasons to suspect the PSU earlier and nothing we've seen since changes that. It would be a shame to replace the CPU and find it was the PSU all along....

 

[DevanDrake99]

Did you ever get the PSU checked? We had reasons to suspect the PSU earlier and nothing we've seen since changes that. It would be a shame to replace the CPU and find it was the PSU all along....

Not yet.

 

[ubuysa]

That is where I would start. The PSU is the heart and soul of any PC.