Today is Holiday for SprintPCS, but not for you.

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In article <rmarkoff-69B30A.18453007072004
@news03.east.earthlink.net>, rmarkoff@faq.cIty says...
> In article <ki1pe0hle8hsoiaklboh8d8b0h994so0fq@4ax.com>,
> NobodyMan <none@none.net> wrote:
>
> > Oh, but SPCS has NEVER indicated they offer time used on HOLIDAYS on
> > their Nights and Weekends time pool. Get over it already.
>
> I never said they did, but several other carriers do.
>

Which national carriers in the USA do it?

You failed to answer this last time.

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O/Siris <0siris@spr?ntpcs.com> wrote:
>
>> > Oh, but SPCS has NEVER indicated they offer time used on HOLIDAYS on
>> > their Nights and Weekends time pool. Get over it already.
>>
>> I never said they did, but several other carriers do.
>
> Which national carriers in the USA do it?
>
> You failed to answer this last time.

I can answer it partially. Verizon most definitely does it, although
some people in the Verizon newsgroup were told July 5th would be offpeak
because 7/4 was a Sunday, and that turned out not to be the case. But
Christmas, Labor Day, July 4th, Thanksgiving and a couple other holidays
are always billed as weekend airtime by Verizon even when they fall on a
weekday, so if you have free weekends it effectively makes those days
airtime-free (or at least doesn't deduct from your peak bucket; not all
Verizon customers have unlimited nights and weekends).

I *believe* AT&T also does it, but I've never been an AT&T customer, so
don't quote me on that.

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On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 23:33:08 -0500, Steven J Sobol
<sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:

>> SprintPCS takes Holidays, closes shop (Customer Service was closed
>> Monday July 5), but treats all daytime minutes as Prime Time, where
>> other carriers would treat it as a Holiday for customers AND employees.
>
>July 5th isn't a holiday. I just had this EXACT same discussion in the
>Verizon newsgroup where it was argued that it is an OBSERVED holiday. I'd
>say yes, it is, if it's observed every year. (Which obviously it isn't.

July 5th was the designated Federal holiday for most Federal
employees, since July 4 fell on Sunday this year. December 24 and
December 31 are also the day that the Feds (and most state agencies)
will be observing the Christmas and New Year's holidays this year.

>Martin Luther King's birthday and President's Day are two examples of observed
>holidays that are actually observed consistently every year. July 5th is not.

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ddm46@att.net wrote:

> July 5th was the designated Federal holiday for most Federal
> employees, since July 4 fell on Sunday this year.

*Exactly.* *This* year.

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On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 12:24:36 -0500, Steven J Sobol
<sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:

>>>
>>> I never said they did, but several other carriers do.
>>
>> Which national carriers in the USA do it?
>>
>> You failed to answer this last time.
>
>I *believe* AT&T also does it, but I've never been an AT&T customer, so
>don't quote me on that.

I was with AT&T up until I switched to Sprint 2 years ago. During the
7 years I was with them holidays were always included in the "nights
and weekends" block. Can't speak for them today.


Deb

 

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On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 19:57:31 -0400, NobodyMan <none@none.net> wrote:

>Yea, yea, you yell this every time there's a business day federal
>holiday. Can you just get it out of the way for the next holiday,
>Labor Day (in Sep) and get it over with for the summer?
>
>Oh, and incidentally, this is a FEDERAL holiday and not all that many
>businesses recognize it. I just went out shopping and everywhere I

Actually, other than retail outlets, most businesses DID observe it,
as they do the other "major" Federal holidays, such as Labor Day and
Memorial Day. There are a number of Federal holidays that are not
observed by many businesses (such as President's Day, Veteran's Day,
etc.), however, in my experience, other than retail businesses
(stores, theaters, restaurants), most DO observer the "major" Fed
holidays, ie: Labor Day, Memorial Day, Independence Day, New Year's,
Christmas and Thanksgiving.

BTW, I deal with over 400 businesses on a day to day basis, as I
manage the tech support group for a software firm. Based on our survey
of those customers, all were planning to close and observe the holiday
after surveying THEIR customers to find that all of THEM were planning
to close and observe the Federal holiday on Monday.

>went, and every business I glanced at along the way, were open. Not
>much of a holiday for them.

As it is for most retail outlets for over the last 20 years or so.
Once they realized the money that could be made by staying open on
those days with all the other folks having a 'day off'......

I don't think guaging the validity of a holiday based on the retail
outlets that stay open is much of a guage.

>
>I think the name of the minutes you are talking about tell you what to
>expect: NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS. Let's see, this is Monday - not a NIGHT
>and not on a WEEKEND.

It was also an observed holiday by pretty much all but retail outlets.

Regardless of whether Sprint includes holidays in Night and Weekends
as other carriers do, it was still a holiday.


Deb

 

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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 14:19:41 -0500, Steven J Sobol
<sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:

>ddm46@att.net wrote:
>
>> July 5th was the designated Federal holiday for most Federal
>> employees, since July 4 fell on Sunday this year.
>
>*Exactly.* *This* year.

And, probably *next* year for Christmas and New Years, since they will
fall on Sunday in 2005, the Monday after will probably be the
designated holidays.


Deb

 

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ddm46@att.net wrote:

> And, probably *next* year for Christmas and New Years, since they will
> fall on Sunday in 2005, the Monday after will probably be the
> designated holidays.

Indeed. My point was, it doesn't happen every year...

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I too have trouble keeping track of, the actual holiday, the
observed holiday, and the designated holiday.


Steven J Sobol wrote:
> ddm46@att.net wrote:
>
>
>>And, probably *next* year for Christmas and New Years, since they will
>>fall on Sunday in 2005, the Monday after will probably be the
>>designated holidays.
>
>
> Indeed. My point was, it doesn't happen every year...
>

 

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In article <rmarkoff-5C65E3.19324406072004@news03.east.earthlink.net>,
Røbert M. <rmarkoff@faq.cIty> wrote:
>In article <mpfme0d8k43m5e6f576m12o4o7fc6c9brs@4ax.com>,
> NobodyMan <none@none.net> wrote:
>
>> Hey - the minutes you are talking about are NIGHTS and WEEKENDS
>> minutes. Where does it indicate HOLIDAYS in that?
>
>Bingo, thats the point. Other carrier's take Holidays, and treat them as
>nights and weekends.
>
>SprintPCS takes Holidays, closes shop (Customer Service was closed
>Monday July 5), but treats all daytime minutes as Prime Time, where
>other carriers would treat it as a Holiday for customers AND employees.


I never expected holidays to be part of the weekend and evening. It wasn't
that way when I signed up, and I don't expect it to change. Should I be
outraged? AM I A FOOL TO USE SPRINT?

Mr Danish Zero would have gotten less flack if he had said "OR July 5th"
instead of "AND july 5th". But I had no trouble understanding his meaning.

-tc