Tualatin Celeron Overclocking

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I'm using the stock heatsink and fan that comes with the Tualatin. Hmmm...my dad has an extra Volcano 7+....that paired with AS 5 would be a lot better than this stock intel HSF and Thermal compound right?

DFI TA64-B, Intel Celeron (Tualatin) 1.6GHz, ATI Radeon 7000 🙁, SoundBlaster Live! 5.1, Kingston 512MB PC133 SDRAM, Western Digital 80GB 7200RPM 8MB Cache
 
I wouldn't run over 1.75 - bad things have been known to happen.

I'm using a Volcano 7+ and it works well. Your board should give you temp readings.

*Dual PIII-800 @900 i440BX and Tualeron 1.2 @1.7 i815*
 
alright, i'm gonna try the volcano 7+ and AS5 and see if that improves overclockability. Oh btw, I got my Geforce4 Ti 4200 today, i'm gonna reload windows and bench it, i'll fill ya in.

DFI TA64-B (Via Apollo Pro 133A), Tualatin 1.1GHz (100MHz) at 1.46GHz (133MHz), nVidia Geforce4 Ti4200 128MB, SoundBlaster Live! 5.1, Kingston 512MB PC133 SDRAM CL2, Western Digital 80GB JB 7200RPM
 
well, still couldn't get past 133FSB but that's ok! Still happy! You think my G4 Ti4200 could OC a little bit? This is the comparison of the two cards I had.

ATI Radeon 7000/VE 64MB DDR - 1354 3dMarks
NVidia Geforce4 Ti4200 128MB DDR - 6247 3dMarks

So that was a pretty nice job as well, overall i'm pretty happy, I just want to see if I can OC this GPU now...

DFI TA64-B (Via Apollo Pro 133A), Tualatin 1.1GHz (100MHz) at 1.46GHz (133MHz), nVidia Geforce4 Ti4200 128MB, SoundBlaster Live! 5.1, Kingston 512MB PC133 SDRAM CL2, Western Digital 80GB JB 7200RPM
 
I'm at 300/559 right now, that pretty good?

DFI TA64-B (Via Apollo Pro 133A), Tualatin 1.1GHz (100MHz) at 1.46GHz (133MHz), nVidia Geforce4 Ti4200 128MB, SoundBlaster Live! 5.1, Kingston 512MB PC133 SDRAM CL2, Western Digital 80GB JB 7200RPM
 
I'm not that familiar with those cards, but browse this thread: <A HREF="http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=137421" target="_new">http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=137421</A>

What is stock on your 4200? 250/250?

*Dual PIII-800 @900 i440BX and Tualeron 1.2 @1.7 i815*
 
Well, 250/444 is stock for this graphics card, I'm running at 300/559 so that's not too bad. It still didn't do much for my system, I get around 6300 3dMarks...

DFI TA64-B (Via Apollo Pro 133A), Tualatin 1.1GHz (100MHz) at 1.46GHz (133MHz), nVidia Geforce4 Ti4200 128MB, SoundBlaster Live! 5.1, Kingston 512MB PC133 SDRAM CL2, Western Digital 80GB JB 7200RPM
 
Here's my 3dmark score...seems a little low...

I'm running at 300/559, stock 250/444, which is a nice OC. Still though.

<A HREF="http://slb132.homestead.com/files/3dmark.JPG" target="_new">http://slb132.homestead.com/files/3dmark.JPG</A>

kinda low eh?

DFI TA64-B (Via Apollo Pro 133A), Tualatin 1.1GHz (100MHz) at 1.46GHz (133MHz), nVidia Geforce4 Ti4200 128MB, SoundBlaster Live! 5.1, Kingston 512MB PC133 SDRAM CL2, Western Digital 80GB JB 7200RPM
 
I compared my bench on the ORB to others with same processor and vid card and my score is terribly lower than the others! What could be causing this??

DFI TA64-B (Via Apollo Pro 133A), Tualatin 1.1GHz (100MHz) at 1.46GHz (133MHz), nVidia Geforce4 Ti4200 128MB, SoundBlaster Live! 5.1, Kingston 512MB PC133 SDRAM CL2, Western Digital 80GB JB 7200RPM
 
It does seem a little low. I have an 8500LE that scores ~6200 on a PIII-900 (112FSB).

There are other scores in that range for that card and processor, but you should be able to get it a bit higher. The super fast scores are probably with clocks in the 340/350 range (or 340/700 if you want to count the memory as double).

3Dmark2003 might be a better test because you can see what other people clock their cards at with ORB.

Can you tighten up your memory timings? 2/2/2/5/7 should be possible with that memory you have. What kind of memory bandwidth are you getting in Sandra? It should be ~1000mb/s.

Are you sure you have all the VIA AGP drivers and such installed?

What OS?

*Dual PIII-800 @900 i440BX and Tualeron 1.2 @1.7 i815*
 
I got HORRIBLE MEMORY BANDWIDTH!

610int/612float

yowch!!

I don't understand because the memory's running at 133MHz and CL2....? What's going on?

DFI TA64-B (Via Apollo Pro 133A), Tualatin 1.1GHz (100MHz) at 1.46GHz (133MHz), nVidia Geforce4 Ti4200 128MB, SoundBlaster Live! 5.1, Kingston 512MB PC133 SDRAM CL2, Western Digital 80GB JB 7200RPM
 
well I pushed it to 6801 3dMarks, which is better I guess. I set the ram on fast. I can't change the timings manually at all.

DFI TA64-B (Via Apollo Pro 133A), Tualatin 1.1GHz (100MHz) at 1.46GHz (133MHz), nVidia Geforce4 Ti4200 128MB, SoundBlaster Live! 5.1, Kingston 512MB PC133 SDRAM CL2, Western Digital 80GB JB 7200RPM
 
I don't know about HORRIBLE, but the apollo pro's had pretty weak memory controllers. Best was the BX, but then you could have problems with your AGP card.

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You think I got a bad video card? Hmmmm....

660/653 now with settings on turbo. All that seemed to do was tighten the timings on the RAM, lol.

DFI TA64-B (Via Apollo Pro 133A), Tualatin 1.1GHz (100MHz) at 1.46GHz (133MHz), nVidia Geforce4 Ti4200 128MB, SoundBlaster Live! 5.1, Kingston 512MB PC133 SDRAM CL2, Western Digital 80GB JB 7200RPM
 
It's nothing to do with that, it's about the AGP clock and some cards not being able to handle 89MHz bus clock rate. Cards from the GeForce2 erra could for the most part, most later cards can't. But there are exceptions, and I'd hate to hazard a guess that cost someone money.

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I think I'm going to take my Pentium III-S back! I have that and a DFI i815 chipset board that gets the FSB to 150MHz 1:1 Ratio. I'm gonna put my Ti4200 on that puppy and see what I get! :)

DFI TA64-B (Via Apollo Pro 133A), Tualatin 1.1GHz (100MHz) at 1.46GHz (133MHz), nVidia Geforce4 Ti4200 128MB, SoundBlaster Live! 5.1, Kingston 512MB PC133 SDRAM CL2, Western Digital 80GB JB 7200RPM
 
i815 was a medium performance chipset, Intel held it back a little to keep the i840 on top.

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What's the best platform for a Pentium III-S then?

DFI TA64-B (Via Apollo Pro 133A), Tualatin 1.1GHz (100MHz) at 1.46GHz (133MHz), nVidia Geforce4 Ti4200 128MB, SoundBlaster Live! 5.1, Kingston 512MB PC133 SDRAM CL2, Western Digital 80GB JB 7200RPM
 
That's a problem. The "best" platform is probably the i840, but that's a problem because it does a poor job of using expensive RDRAM. The "other best" is the BX, but that's a problem in that most newer AGP cards can't handle the raised AGP bus clock. The BX could usually hit 150MHz FSB or more, as long as the clock generator on your board supported that speed, but that would cause the AGP clock to be 100MHz. Even AGP8x is specified only 66MHz clock rate.

I had no problems at all running my Radeon DDR at 100MHz AGP clock. Most cards of that erra could do similar. Early cards and later cards had problems. So the "best" chipset won't necessarily work with "better" video cards.

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While the i815 isn't an amazing chipset it's still a good chipset - and probably the best solution for a PIII-S (in terms of price/performance).

Asus TUSL2-C or Abit ST6.

*Dual PIII-800 @900 i440BX and Tualeron 1.2 @1.7 i815*
 
Is there a big difference between a Pentium III-S at 1.42GHz 150MHz FSB against Celeron 1.47GHz 133MHz FSB. I know the PIII-S will probably do a good bit better thanks to the doubled cache and greater memory bandwidth, but just HOW much?

DFI TA64-B (Via Apollo Pro 133A), Tualatin 1.1GHz (100MHz) at 1.46GHz (133MHz), nVidia Geforce4 Ti4200 128MB, SoundBlaster Live! 5.1, Kingston 512MB PC133 SDRAM CL2, Western Digital 80GB JB 7200RPM
 
the i815 b step mainboards cost a lot less than bx boards...and had generally slightly worse performance. I would say the BX would be a better option...yet it did lack official support. Anyhow celeron overclocking is fun...but i have you all <A HREF="http://venus.walagata.com/w/piiiman/150.bmp" target="_new">beat</A>. Heh i love bragging rights.

Anyhow, i have never gotten more than 1550 out of a celeron 1.1 (i have only delt with two though).

I can definitly tell you do not push 1.75v (thats what i would consider the cap), 2v is way to much for a .13 micron cpu.


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Yes, but not a huge difference. There were many a comparisons done a year or two ago in the forums at overclockers.com.

I'd say it's kind of like a P4 3.2 vs a P4EE 3.2 Of course the EE is a little faster, but it's also 2x or 3x the price.

*Dual PIII-800 @900 i440BX and Tualeron 1.2 @1.7 i815*
 
What board you using PIII Man? Also, don't BX Boards only have a 2X AGP Slot? If so, how could it be better than i815? Wouldn't that be a pretty big bottleneck?

DFI TA64-B (Via Apollo Pro 133A), Tualatin 1.1GHz (100MHz) at 1.46GHz (133MHz), nVidia Geforce4 Ti4200 128MB, SoundBlaster Live! 5.1, Kingston 512MB PC133 SDRAM CL2, Western Digital 80GB JB 7200RPM
 
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