twowweaponing with artifacts

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I'm currently playing a lawfull valk, rather good so far (cleared Sok
(amulet), found 2 BoH in a bone file in the mines (plus scrolls and magic
marker in them), got Excalibur at the first #dipping and Mojo after a few
sac (cross aligned altar in Minetown, but a polytrap downward gave me a
yellow dragon and a xorn pets...), and a cloak of MR I can't remember
where, oh yes, and gauntlet of power in a huge general shop (just
looking forward to get shock resistance)).

Well, but I'm not really use to #twoweaponing (mainly playing monks and
wizards before).

I'm intending to use both Mojo and Excalibur (may switch to Frost
brand/Grayswandir if I happen to get them via saccing). Is there a general
technique concerning the choice of the primary and secondary weapon ?

I'm currently skilled in hammer and expert in swords, will I still get
'hits' in hammer if I use two weapon ? Or should I wait and become expert
in hammer before twoweaponing ?

Will I still get the "when wielded" effects of the artifact not in the
primary weapon ? Or should I keep Exca as a primary weapon to still have
drain resistance and searching ?

Hypocoristiquement,
Jym.

 

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Jym wrote:
> I'm intending to use both Mojo and Excalibur (may switch to Frost
> brand/Grayswandir if I happen to get them via saccing). Is there a
general
> technique concerning the choice of the primary and secondary weapon ?
>
> I'm currently skilled in hammer and expert in swords, will I still
get
> 'hits' in hammer if I use two weapon ? Or should I wait and become
expert
> in hammer before twoweaponing ?
>
> Will I still get the "when wielded" effects of the artifact not in
the
> primary weapon ? Or should I keep Exca as a primary weapon to still
have
> drain resistance and searching ?
>

If I remember right, you cannot #twoweapon two artifacts, when
#twoweaponing with one artifact it must be the primary weapon. If you
try #twoweaponing two artifacts, or one artifact as a secondary weapon
you get the message:

Your Grayswandir resists being held second to another weapon ---More---

or something similar.

Joe

 

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hepcaten@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> Jym wrote:
>
>> I'm intending to use both Mojo and Excalibur (may switch to Frost
>> brand/Grayswandir if I happen to get them via saccing). Is there a
>> general technique concerning the choice of the primary and
>> secondary weapon? I'm currently skilled in hammer and expert in
>> swords, will I still get 'hits' in hammer if I use two weapon ? Or
>> should I wait and become expert in hammer before twoweaponing ?
>>
>> Will I still get the "when wielded" effects of the artifact not in
>> the primary weapon ? Or should I keep Exca as a primary weapon to
>> still have drain resistance and searching ?
>>
>
>
> If I remember right, you cannot #twoweapon two artifacts, when
> #twoweaponing with one artifact it must be the primary weapon. If you
> try #twoweaponing two artifacts, or one artifact as a secondary
> weapon you get the message:
>
> Your Grayswandir resists being held second to another weapon
> ---More---
>
> or something similar.
>
> Joe
>

I believe you can twoweapon in Slash'EM, though. Which makes it possible
to twoweapon Fire Brand with Frost Brand, which is a good idea.


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On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 hepcaten@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

>
> Jym wrote:
> > I'm intending to use both Mojo and Excalibur (may switch to Frost
> > brand/Grayswandir if I happen to get them via saccing). Is there a
> general
> > technique concerning the choice of the primary and secondary weapon ?
> >
> > I'm currently skilled in hammer and expert in swords, will I still
> get
> > 'hits' in hammer if I use two weapon ? Or should I wait and become
> expert
> > in hammer before twoweaponing ?
> >
> > Will I still get the "when wielded" effects of the artifact not in
> the
> > primary weapon ? Or should I keep Exca as a primary weapon to still
> have
> > drain resistance and searching ?
> >
>
> If I remember right, you cannot #twoweapon two artifacts, when
> #twoweaponing with one artifact it must be the primary weapon. If you
> try #twoweaponing two artifacts, or one artifact as a secondary weapon
> you get the message:
>
> Your Grayswandir resists being held second to another weapon ---More---
>
> or something similar.

You're right :-(
So, I guess, I'll try and found a silver saber as second weapon... Still
the best in Gehennom IIRC.
Or I'll simply go for shield of reflection.

Hypocoristiquement,
Jym.

 

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On Tue, 5 Apr 2005, Shadow wrote:

> hepcaten@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> > Jym wrote:
> >
> >> I'm intending to use both Mojo and Excalibur (may switch to Frost
> >> brand/Grayswandir if I happen to get them via saccing). Is there a
> >> general technique concerning the choice of the primary and
> >> secondary weapon? I'm currently skilled in hammer and expert in
> >> swords, will I still get 'hits' in hammer if I use two weapon ? Or
> >> should I wait and become expert in hammer before twoweaponing ?
> >>
> >> Will I still get the "when wielded" effects of the artifact not in
> >> the primary weapon ? Or should I keep Exca as a primary weapon to
> >> still have drain resistance and searching ?
> >>
> >
> >
> > If I remember right, you cannot #twoweapon two artifacts, when
> > #twoweaponing with one artifact it must be the primary weapon. If you
> > try #twoweaponing two artifacts, or one artifact as a secondary
> > weapon you get the message:
> >
> > Your Grayswandir resists being held second to another weapon
> > ---More---
>
> I believe you can twoweapon in Slash'EM, though. Which makes it possible
> to twoweapon Fire Brand with Frost Brand, which is a good idea.

Yes, you can. And wizmode just shown me that the second weapon is not
considered wielded (twoweaponning both brands only provide 1 intrisic).
Should have thing of wizmode before :-(

Unfortunately, I'm currently playing vanilla nethack so I won't twoweapon
with Exca and Mojo :-(

Hypocoristiquement,
Jym.

 

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Jym wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Apr 2005, Shadow wrote:
>
>>hepcaten@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>If I remember right, you cannot #twoweapon two artifacts, when
>>>#twoweaponing with one artifact it must be the primary weapon. If you
>>> try #twoweaponing two artifacts, or one artifact as a secondary
>>>weapon you get the message:
>>>
>>>Your Grayswandir resists being held second to another weapon
>>>---More---
>>
>>I believe you can twoweapon in Slash'EM, though. Which makes it possible
>>to twoweapon Fire Brand with Frost Brand, which is a good idea.
>
> Yes, you can. And wizmode just shown me that the second weapon is not
> considered wielded (twoweaponning both brands only provide 1 intrisic).
> Should have thing of wizmode before :-(
>

I think they still do double damage. You still get the "The fiery blade
burns <monster>" and "The ice-cold blade freezes <monster>" messages, at
least.

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