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Hi,
I've played neverwinter with my friends at little lans for quite a bit and
it has been a lot of fun .. (previously we played icewind dale and <shudder>
Dungeon Siege) ..

I'm looking for a certain type of RPG and haven't found it yet.. kinda like
my old days of abandoned realms mudding.. Dungeon Siege had the right idea
but failed to implement it properly..
Basically I'm looking for a game where you progress in proficiency of
spells, weapons, etc but using them.. ie, you can choose a proficiency in a
weapon .. be it a feat or whatever but it doesn't give full proficiency, as
you use it you become more proficient...

Is there such a game that implements this well? .. coz I remember in dungeon
siege I went the whole game with a focus on archery as the rest of the party
was mainly melee.. and much later in the game one of my buddies picked up
one of those gnomish guns or something.. used it a coiupla times and managed
to get the same proficiency in about 5 secs of using it as I got from using
bows, etc all game.. LOL

Just a thought,

Sean
 
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"Sean" <sean@NOSPAMgrieve.com.au> wrote in
news:41f99ff7@funnel.arach.net.au:

> Basically I'm looking for a game where you progress in proficiency of
> spells, weapons, etc but using them.. ie, you can choose a proficiency
> in a weapon .. be it a feat or whatever but it doesn't give full
> proficiency, as you use it you become more proficient...

Ultima Online comes to mind though it might not be what you had in mind.

Gandalf Parker
 
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In article <41f99ff7@funnel.arach.net.au>, sean@NOSPAMgrieve.com.au says...

>Hi,
>I've played neverwinter with my friends at little lans for quite a bit and
>it has been a lot of fun .. (previously we played icewind dale and <shudder>
>Dungeon Siege) ..

>I'm looking for a certain type of RPG and haven't found it yet.. kinda like
>my old days of abandoned realms mudding.. Dungeon Siege had the right idea
>but failed to implement it properly..
>Basically I'm looking for a game where you progress in proficiency of
>spells, weapons, etc but using them.. ie, you can choose a proficiency in a
>weapon .. be it a feat or whatever but it doesn't give full proficiency, as
>you use it you become more proficient...

>Is there such a game that implements this well? .. coz I remember in dungeon
>siege I went the whole game with a focus on archery as the rest of the party
>was mainly melee.. and much later in the game one of my buddies picked up
>one of those gnomish guns or something.. used it a coiupla times and managed
>to get the same proficiency in about 5 secs of using it as I got from using
>bows, etc all game.. LOL

>Just a thought,

Dungeon Master was like that. Info on current versions here:

http://dmweb.free.fr/Clones.htm

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Crusaders of Dark Savant & Others.
 
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> Just a thought,
>
> Sean

Daggerfall !

Daggerfall !
Daggerfall !
Daggerfall !
Daggerfall !
Daggerfall !

-Moa Dragon
 
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Sean wrote:

> I'm looking for a certain type of RPG and haven't found it yet.. kinda like
> my old days of abandoned realms mudding.. Dungeon Siege had the right idea
> but failed to implement it properly..
> Basically I'm looking for a game where you progress in proficiency of
> spells, weapons, etc but using them.. ie, you can choose a proficiency in a
> weapon .. be it a feat or whatever but it doesn't give full proficiency, as
> you use it you become more proficient...

Try Morrowind with both expansions.
 
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"Sean" <sean@NOSPAMgrieve.com.au> wrote in message
news:41f99ff7@funnel.arach.net.au...
> Hi,
> I've played neverwinter with my friends at little lans for quite a bit and
> it has been a lot of fun .. (previously we played icewind dale and
<shudder>
> Dungeon Siege) ..
>
> I'm looking for a certain type of RPG and haven't found it yet.. kinda
like
> my old days of abandoned realms mudding.. Dungeon Siege had the right idea
> but failed to implement it properly..
> Basically I'm looking for a game where you progress in proficiency of
> spells, weapons, etc but using them.. ie, you can choose a proficiency in
a
> weapon .. be it a feat or whatever but it doesn't give full proficiency,
as
> you use it you become more proficient...
>
> Is there such a game that implements this well? .. coz I remember in
dungeon
> siege I went the whole game with a focus on archery as the rest of the
party
> was mainly melee.. and much later in the game one of my buddies picked up
> one of those gnomish guns or something.. used it a coiupla times and
managed
> to get the same proficiency in about 5 secs of using it as I got from
using
> bows, etc all game.. LOL

I'd say you might want to give "Wizardry 8" a try, if you can find it. As
you level, you can place skill points in all sorts of skills (swords, modern
weapons, bow, various mage skills, etc, etc) but as you go along in the
world if you use them they increase all on their own (ie if you kill things
with a sword, your skill in swords increases). It has a really nice set of
classes and races to play with (it's a single-player RPG, though). The
combat is turn-based, so that example you gave wouldn't really fit (also,
the levelling up is slower than that would suggest).
 
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Sean wrote:
>
> I'm looking for a certain type of RPG and haven't found it yet.. kinda like
> my old days of abandoned realms mudding.. Dungeon Siege had the right idea
> but failed to implement it properly..
> Basically I'm looking for a game where you progress in proficiency of
> spells, weapons, etc but using them.. ie, you can choose a proficiency in a
> weapon .. be it a feat or whatever but it doesn't give full proficiency, as
> you use it you become more proficient...
>
> Is there such a game that implements this well?

I really liked the shareware game Nahlakh:
http://www.proudft.com/nahlakh.html
(Not sure how well it works on modern computers.)


--KG
 
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:14:15 +0800, Sean wrote:

> Basically I'm looking for a game where you progress in proficiency of
> spells, weapons, etc but using them.. ie, you can choose a proficiency in a
> weapon .. be it a feat or whatever but it doesn't give full proficiency, as
> you use it you become more proficient...

The "by-use" skill system, which is also my favourite. Hard to find in
games. Ultima Online really implemented it best, but as Gandalf said, it's
probably not what you're looking for. Morrowind comes close, so, that'd be
my recommendation.

Actually, World of Warcraft uses a similar system also, but with some
twists.

M.
 
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"Mils Michael" <mickmils@tiscali.fr> skrev i meddelelsen news:ctco2n$q7$1
@news.tiscali.fr:

> Daggerfall !

Jeez, did I waste a lot of nights on this! 🙂

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 02:43:23 GMT, Gandalf Parker
<gandalf@most.of.my.favorite.sites> dared speak in front of ME:

>"Sean" <sean@NOSPAMgrieve.com.au> wrote in
>news:41f99ff7@funnel.arach.net.au:
>
>> Basically I'm looking for a game where you progress in proficiency of
>> spells, weapons, etc but using them.. ie, you can choose a proficiency
>> in a weapon .. be it a feat or whatever but it doesn't give full
>> proficiency, as you use it you become more proficient...
>
>Ultima Online comes to mind though it might not be what you had in mind.

I thought of that too, partially because he mentioned realms mudding.
An MMORPG without a class/level based structure seemed to fit what he
was looking for, and UO is the only one I could think of that fit.

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:14:15 +0800, Sean wrote:

> Hi,
> I've played neverwinter with my friends at little lans for quite a bit and
> it has been a lot of fun .. (previously we played icewind dale and <shudder>
> Dungeon Siege) ..
>
> I'm looking for a certain type of RPG and haven't found it yet.. kinda like
> my old days of abandoned realms mudding.. Dungeon Siege had the right idea
> but failed to implement it properly..
> Basically I'm looking for a game where you progress in proficiency of
> spells, weapons, etc but using them.. ie, you can choose a proficiency in a
> weapon .. be it a feat or whatever but it doesn't give full proficiency, as
> you use it you become more proficient...
>
> Is there such a game that implements this well? .. coz I remember in dungeon
> siege I went the whole game with a focus on archery as the rest of the party
> was mainly melee.. and much later in the game one of my buddies picked up
> one of those gnomish guns or something.. used it a coiupla times and managed
> to get the same proficiency in about 5 secs of using it as I got from using
> bows, etc all game.. LOL
>
> Just a thought,
>
> Sean

Betrayal at Krondor. It's free nowadays, probably available from
Sierra's site. I would have to play it again, but skills either were
trained by use or you got skill points too slowly to not specialise.It
has great story and feeling, too.

Janne Joensuu,
Endoperez
 
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 17:33:05 +0200, "J.M. Joensuu"
<spam_wanted_here@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:14:15 +0800, Sean wrote:
>
[...]
>>
>> Is there such a game that implements this well? .. coz I remember in dungeon
>> siege I went the whole game with a focus on archery as the rest of the party
>> was mainly melee.. and much later in the game one of my buddies picked up
>> one of those gnomish guns or something.. used it a coiupla times and managed
>> to get the same proficiency in about 5 secs of using it as I got from using
>> bows, etc all game.. LOL
>>
>> Just a thought,
>>
>> Sean
>
>Betrayal at Krondor. It's free nowadays, probably available from
>Sierra's site. I would have to play it again, but skills either were
>trained by use or you got skill points too slowly to not specialise.It
>has great story and feeling, too.

I've seen some places where you could pick a locked door, close it, and
pick it again for infinite skill gain. It was slow, but would eventually
guarentee a maxed skill.

(Cheaters can take a short-cut by modifing the saved game - the game data
was written unencrypted.)

Right now, I'm trying to release a patch for sCthAngband to fix some of the
issues with the skill system - it jumped from easily abusable to extremely
tedious ever since the previous maintainer required object collection to
help keep skills trainable. I think I've made things slightly better, but
there are still some things to do.
 
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"Sean" <sean@NOSPAMgrieve.com.au> once tried to test me with:

> Hi,
> I've played neverwinter with my friends at little lans for quite a bit
> and it has been a lot of fun .. (previously we played icewind dale and
> <shudder> Dungeon Siege) ..
>
> I'm looking for a certain type of RPG and haven't found it yet.. kinda
> like my old days of abandoned realms mudding.. Dungeon Siege had the
> right idea but failed to implement it properly..
> Basically I'm looking for a game where you progress in proficiency of
> spells, weapons, etc but using them.. ie, you can choose a proficiency
> in a weapon .. be it a feat or whatever but it doesn't give full
> proficiency, as you use it you become more proficient...
>
> Is there such a game that implements this well?

No. There are no games that implement that well. Well, to be fair,
Wizardry 8 does it almost well.

However, there are a lot of games that do it shitily.

Like Morrowind for example.

But then, I hate that type of system. So what do I know.

--

Knight37

The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
 
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Thanks for all the replies.. but not quite what I was after... I was looking
for a multiplayer, fairly newish game to play in a LAN situation.. but it
seems that such a game doesn't exist yet..
I'll just keep on neverwintering! :) .. lotsa fun!

Sean


"Sean" <sean@NOSPAMgrieve.com.au> wrote in message
news:41f99ff7@funnel.arach.net.au...
> Hi,
> I've played neverwinter with my friends at little lans for quite a bit and
> it has been a lot of fun .. (previously we played icewind dale and
> <shudder> Dungeon Siege) ..
>
> I'm looking for a certain type of RPG and haven't found it yet.. kinda
> like my old days of abandoned realms mudding.. Dungeon Siege had the right
> idea but failed to implement it properly..
> Basically I'm looking for a game where you progress in proficiency of
> spells, weapons, etc but using them.. ie, you can choose a proficiency in
> a weapon .. be it a feat or whatever but it doesn't give full proficiency,
> as you use it you become more proficient...
>
> Is there such a game that implements this well? .. coz I remember in
> dungeon siege I went the whole game with a focus on archery as the rest of
> the party was mainly melee.. and much later in the game one of my buddies
> picked up one of those gnomish guns or something.. used it a coiupla times
> and managed to get the same proficiency in about 5 secs of using it as I
> got from using bows, etc all game.. LOL
>
> Just a thought,
>
> Sean
>
 
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Sean wrote:
> Thanks for all the replies.. but not quite what I was after... I was looking
> for a multiplayer, fairly newish game to play in a LAN situation.. but it
> seems that such a game doesn't exist yet..

I think there's a reason for that - maybe not a good reason,
but a reason nevertheless.

Consider: you're developing a network game and go through
the time to add a network interface. You stare around the
room at the few other PCs on your LAN. Then your eye comes
to rest on your broadband router, and your mind wanders to
the millions of other PCs out there in the world. LAN games
have every incentive to metamorphose into MMORPGs.

> I'll just keep on neverwintering! :) .. lotsa fun!

I loved the scripting with NWN - in some ways that part was
even more fun than playing the game.

--
Nathan Engle Computer Support, IUB Psych Dept
nengle@indiana.edu http://mypage.iu.edu/~nengle
"Some Assembly Required"
 
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> Consider: you're developing a network game and go through
> the time to add a network interface. You stare around the
> room at the few other PCs on your LAN. Then your eye comes
> to rest on your broadband router, and your mind wanders to
> the millions of other PCs out there in the world. LAN games
> have every incentive to metamorphose into MMORPGs.

I disagree.. I've played a few games online and the gameplay is completely
different.. when you're at a lan with a few friends, lots of beer, pizza,
snacks present.. a little bit of roleplaying can be fun especially when
you're all in the same room.. a lot more fun IMHO.. MMORPGs are great but
for a different reason


>
>
> I loved the scripting with NWN - in some ways that part was
> even more fun than playing the game.

never _did_ try the scripting.. probably should sometime.. could be fun!
 
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