U.S. Bill Will Allow Feds to Read Your E-mail Without Warrants

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SirTrollsALot

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Wow the US is gov is going to read our email??? As if China, Nigeria, and the rest of the world hasn't already... Next thing they're going to tell you evolution is real!!
 

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[citation][nom]Article[/nom]Associate deputy attorney general James Baker has warned that the requirement of receiving a warrant to obtain e-mails could have an "adverse impact" on criminal investigations.[/citation]
Yes, and I'll bet the requirement of receiving a warrant to search people's homes also has an "adverse impact" on criminal investigations. But guess what, it's called the 4th Amendment.

Law enforcement always wants more powers. They'll take as much power as they can. And they'll correctly cite that it will help them stop more crime. But society isn't only about stopping crime. That must be balanced against the rights and freedoms of citizens.

And, don't forget that the more power law enforcement has, the more potential there is for corrupt police to commit crimes of their own.

The 4th Amendment must apply to all forms of government surveillance. End of story.
 

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[citation][nom]bit_user[/nom] . . . The 4th Amendment must apply to all forms of government surveillance. End of story.[/citation]Unfortunately, things are headed the opposite direction. With the technology today it is getting too easy for the government to watch its citizens.
 

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[citation][nom]Devoteicon[/nom]It's plain and simple... Encrypt your emails.[/citation]
Not everyone has the tools or expertise to do that. Everyone has the right to 4th Amendment protection, however. It should not be incumbent on citizens to protect themselves from the government. That's what the US Constitution was all about.

And don't think it doesn't affect you, just because you're not a criminal. Ask people who have lived in a police state. They'll tell you it's not good.
 

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Maybe I am the only one? I do not mind this, it is actually a good step forward. Criminals can be seriously tracked through email, and with more speed to read them more speed to catch (Most of the time). Just my thoughts.
 

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[citation][nom]wildkitten[/nom]We don't need it? So Iran isn't trying to develop a nuclear weapon? The world isn't a crazy and dangerous place?Let's also remember, the Constitution DEMANDS that the federal government provide defense. Infrastructure is a state responsibility, defense is a federal one.[/citation]

Iran only needs nukes because the US and quite possibly Israel has them.
The world's crazy as ever, but to replace democracy with Fascism to preserve democracy?.....Where is this country going?
 
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Courts and trials have "adverse impacts" on criminal prosecutions so why don't we just do away with those as well? Would save law enforcement a lot of time.
 

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[citation][nom]greghome[/nom]Iran only needs nukes because the US and quite possibly Israel has them.The world's crazy as ever, but to replace democracy with Fascism to preserve democracy?.....Where is this country going?[/citation]
So you are claiming that the US and Israel are the aggressors, not Iran, a country of radical Isalmists that openly support terrorism and believe dieing against ones enemies is a guaranteed trip to heaven?

Israel is the only democracy in the region. They don't support terrorism, they defend themselves, something people have a problem with. But let a nation like Egypt put a radical in as president and people it call it democracy even though that president, Morsi, has both legislative and executive powers and just today implemented constitutional amendments limiting what the court system can do.

Countries like Iran want nuclear weapons to be the aggressor. They hate freedom, they hate democracy. All one has to do is look at the history of such governments. But I guess to some like you, you define democracy as girls not being allowed to get an education, women needing to wear burquas everywhere and needing "their men" to give them permission to do basic everyday things.
 

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[citation][nom]Devoteicon[/nom]It's plain and simple... Encrypt your emails.[/citation]

Actually it's not fixing the problem, what needs to happen is to remove these traitors by force and replace them with decent people who value freedom.
 

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They just want to have more accurate and efficient data-mining to sell to advertiser, etc. What a joke ! Happy Thanksgiving America !
 

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[citation][nom]SirTrollsALot[/nom]Wow the US is gov is going to read our email??? As if China, Nigeria, and the rest of the world hasn't already... Next thing they're going to tell you evolution is real!![/citation]
Newsflash: Evolution IS real.
 

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[citation][nom]cmcghee358[/nom]Do you have any idea how stupid you sound. This was a man that tried to take over the free world, he didn't perceive Jewish people as human beings. He was able to coerce the entire population of countries to believe that Jews were animals to be slaughtered. In one short sentence, you have managed to excuse, justify, diminish, and make allowances for one of the worst human beings in our modern history. Shame on you.[/citation]

You're probably a jew and you felt offended by only reading the name "Hitler".
Cut the crap and stop with all that whining about what he did, which was bad, very bad, but also very exaggerated. Exaggerated to the point that 70 years later, people (jews) are still whining.
Anyway, i can point for you few others that were even worse than Hitler, but nobody gives a shit, cause there were no jews involved.....just some other dead people....
 

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I thought they already been doing this. This is like announcing something obvious like 99.99999% of tweets on twitter are absolutely useless nonsense garage. Everyone knows it no one says it.
 

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BWAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAA

We're all totally fucked. The govt ALREADY HAS ALL OF THIS FOR ALL OF YOU RIGHT NOW... ALREADY.
This law is just a scramble to make it all legal... and we only have ourselves to blame. Stop watching the corporate brainwashing and start seeking out actual legitimate news sources. Or just welcome big brother into your life... he's there already. Thanks to America, land of the watched.

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/4/20/whistleblower_the_nsa_is_lying_us
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/3/21/exposed_inside_the_nsas_largest_and
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/4/23/more_secrets_on_growing_state_surveillance
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/4/20/we_do_not_live_in_a
 

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[citation][nom]fonzy[/nom]Actually it's not fixing the problem, what needs to happen is to remove these traitors by force and replace them with decent people who value freedom.[/citation]
Impossible in America... kiss it goodbye.

you don't understand the power of money in govt and the power of that same money to brainwash the population through the media.
 

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[citation][nom]cmcghee358[/nom]Do you have any idea how stupid you sound. This was a man that tried to take over the free world, he didn't perceive Jewish people as human beings. He was able to coerce the entire population of countries to believe that Jews were animals to be slaughtered. In one short sentence, you have managed to excuse, justify, diminish, and make allowances for one of the worst human beings in our modern history. Shame on you.[/citation]
imàgine how hitler would have used such systems you bafoon
...try seeing where this is headed
 

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[citation][nom]wildkitten[/nom]We don't need it? So Iran isn't trying to develop a nuclear weapon? The world isn't a crazy and dangerous place?Let's also remember, the Constitution DEMANDS that the federal government provide defense. Infrastructure is a state responsibility, defense is a federal one.[/citation]

How is another country trying to develop a nuke our problem?
Tons of countries with nukes...
Pakistan, Israel... both have nukes.

Israel has 300 of em.

Somehow I think they can look after themselves seeing as how we are broke.
 

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[citation][nom]greghome[/nom]Iran only needs nukes because the US and quite possibly Israel has them.The world's crazy as ever, but to replace democracy with Fascism to preserve democracy?.....Where is this country going?[/citation]


Your quite right.
Israel has 300 nukes.
Iran has 0.

We should not be involved in their affairs.
I think its time to we started listening to the advice of the founders.

We are broke after all.
And printing and borrowing more money to defend other countries is only gonna make things worse.

All great empires fail for financial reasons.
We are no different.
 

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[citation][nom]rocknrollz[/nom]Maybe I am the only one? I do not mind this, it is actually a good step forward. Criminals can be seriously tracked through email, and with more speed to read them more speed to catch (Most of the time). Just my thoughts.[/citation]
It would also be easier to catch criminals if they put cameras on every room of every house.

The end doesn't always justify the means.
 
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