Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal), Reviewed In Depth

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killerclick

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[citation][nom]ReggieRay[/nom]Get online and get someone who knows how to write script and you can have that or learn yourself.[/citation]

And that is why Linux=fail
 

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His findings were originally specific to the kernel
The problem with battery life is due to a kernel bug. Canonical has already said that when the issue is solved they will release an update or backport.

The rest of comments, well, I wouldn't expect too much being this site full of Windows-only users.
 
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On my old laptop with Intel 765 or what's-its-name graphics, I installed 10.10. Great! Then it kept asking to upgrade to 11.04 and stupid stupid stupid I did.
Result: blank screen, no graphics at all.

I connected an external monitor. Now I could pick 1024x768. Some talk about "you can download drivers from Intel". Downloaded them.
Result: had to compile them, and some libraries were missing.

I gave up, went back to 10.10. But then, with some wonderful latest updates, the native 1400x1050 mode is gone again.
Result: At least I see the 1024x768 on part of the screen...

Going to put XP on it again I guess, had it. Thanks, 11.04.
 

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[citation][nom]killerclick[/nom]And that is why Linux=fail[/citation]

honestly, linux lacks the marketing of mac and msft...

if ubuntu could spend the 10s or 100s of millions those companies do things would be different... look how many people buy macs just because of their ads
 

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does anyone use Unity on their desktop? i could understand maybe for a netbook or small display notebook..

in installation u should choose the default interface...
 
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After using 11.04 for some time, I'm back to 10.10 for daily use.
Unity may have some good ideas, but Dash & Launcher are effectively
unusable. Global menu is manageable change, auto-hide can be disabled,
but scroll-bars are nearly unusable. Does the Unity design team ever
actually test these things with real users before distributing a release?
Hard to believe the battery lifetime regression escaped notice - QA
must not be sufficiently resourced/valued. That said, Ubuntu is by far
my preferred Linux distro and I use it more often than Windows7 except
when the application I need is Windows-only (which is, of course,
still rather frequent).
 

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I didn't like Unity AT ALL! When you login, change back to "classic gnome" & you get the performance of the new without the crappy interfaces.
 
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Giant fail on explaining "natty." Try a dictionary before resorting to frat-level definitions. Natty means ": trimly neat and tidy : smart " (Merriam Webster).

 
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I've been a ubuntu users for several years.
I tried 11.04 then went straight to pinguy. see http://pinguy-os.sourceforge.net/ (which is based of ubuntu)


 

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I'm not at all happy with the GUI change on 11.04. After reading this helpful article I can now easily fix what I don't like, but to ship with the default settings at what they are was a terrible mistake that may hinder adoption of the updated OS.
 

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I just upgrade my server that sits in the basement to 11.04. Now, remote desktop stopped working, which has basically rendered that machine useless. Going to be wiping 11.04 and going back to 10.04.
 

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I found Ubuntu 11.04 very interesting. Performance great. It takes time to get acquainted but once you get acquainted you will find it a great Desktop OS.
 

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Excellent review Adam. I will be looking forward to your Fedora 15/Gnome 3 review (please include classic Gnome UI also). Haven't used Fedora since 13 so I'm curious
 
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Giant fail on explaining "natty."

I had the same thought. Maybe he doesn't natively speak english. Possibly he was struggling with sarcasm. Then I decided he was closer to a keg than a dictionary when writing that.
 

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[citation][nom]Filiprino[/nom]The problem with battery life is due to a kernel bug. Canonical has already said that when the issue is solved they will release an update or backport.The rest of comments, well, I wouldn't expect too much being this site full of Windows-only users.[/citation]
I saw the follow-ups on Phoronix, but not any official response from Canonical - do you have a link for that?
 

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What's funny is that Concial does a better job with the Ubuntu website than Microsoft does with the Windows homepage. It's like MSFT hired a five year old to design their webpage- it's pathetic.
 

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[citation][nom]hjpoell[/nom]On my old laptop with Intel 765 or what's-its-name graphics, I installed 10.10. Great! Then it kept asking to upgrade to 11.04 and stupid stupid stupid I did.Result: blank screen, no graphics at all.I connected an external monitor. Now I could pick 1024x768. Some talk about "you can download drivers from Intel". Downloaded them.Result: had to compile them, and some libraries were missing.I gave up, went back to 10.10. But then, with some wonderful latest updates, the native 1400x1050 mode is gone again.Result: At least I see the 1024x768 on part of the screen...Going to put XP on it again I guess, had it. Thanks, 11.04.[/citation]
That was also our experience on a system that is slightly under the sys reqs (can't really blame the product in this case). The solution is to 1) Install updates during installation, or 2) Do not check 'login automatically' during installation. Either way you will be stuck with the Classic UI, or will have to install Unity2D.
 

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Yeah, I also really struggled with Unity at first, been using Ubuntu since 7.10 I think, after switching away from Fedora and OpenSUSE.

I'm still not sure about Unity but the thing is growing on me. One of the things I love about Unity is that it maximizes vertical space on the screen. With these stupid widescreen monitors they have these days I need as much vertical space as I can get. I really hate this new trend of ultrawide screens... they're good for movies but that's it. I also don't think it's very newbie friendly, works for me because I know what I'm searching for but for newbies it's definitely hard.

One thing I hate is the desktop switcher integrated into the launcher. I've enabled compiz-fusion on one of my machines with the cube and all... that icon is useless now and I can't even get rid of it. There are bugs out on it so hopefully a fix is coming soon.

I'm also looking forward to your Fedora with Gnome 3 Shell review. Your comments were right on point with some of the improvements which need to be made in Unity. I think when 12.04 (next LTS) comes around we will really have a good idea of how Unity will stack up and it will be mature enough for a real drive around the block. I wasn't happy when Cannonical did their own thing with Unity but they got forced by Gnome developers due to their delays. Time will tell how things will fall out in the end but this is an exciting time for linux.

PS. I still use windows on my main workstation (dual boot) because of Photoshop and some games. Outside of these critical for me areas I can do everything else in linux. People don't use linux because they're not giving it an honest shot... except for android devices which everyone seems to love but forgets they're linux machines.
 

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[citation][nom]mobrocket[/nom]does anyone use Unity on their desktop? i could understand maybe for a netbook or small display notebook..in installation u should choose the default interface...[/citation]
Lock the Launcher in place, if you do it's only marginally less efficient than other leading UIs on a desktop (mostly due to the non-configurable Dash).
 

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I cant see any possible way this can be recommended to a novice user. compared to the number of steps it takes to find things, it is more difficult to use the new UI.

even with windows 7, the new start menu annoyed many users, luckily someone made a classic start menu app.

there are many users who when they look for a program, they are not 100% sure of the name, some like to go based on the icon picture, and some use a mixture of the icon picture and the overall shape of the word (which is how you read when speed reading.

As part of a project for a psychology class, I did a test on how people read, and by forcing someone to speed read, you can take random words in the reading and turn them from
this

add a stroke over the oudside area of the word, then remove the inside leaving only the first and last letter normal so that they can only see actual letters in the first and last letter of the word, everything else is the outside shape

People can were still able to read the randomly altered words without mistake (this has been done by many in the past, when reading we don't read every single letter in the word then figure out what word it is, we go by kinda a facial recognition, for example someone showed you a picture of a close friend, you could most likely tell their name based on the picture. For words, it is the same, based on the overall look and not the letters, you can tell what a word is as long as you have the first and last letter

Most people when skimming through something to look for a program but cant quite remember the name but can tell you something like "I will know it when I see it" or something like that, is using their facial recognition abilities to know what the name and possibly icon of the program looks like even if they don't remember the name.

By removing that option from the OS, for people who are used to finding programs through facial regocnition will have a lot of trouble with the new UI.

For me, I mostly do this since I have a ton of windows program and my windows xp start menu takes about 3/4th of the screen when fully expanded. But compared to any user using the search, I can find any of my programs extremely quickly, generally well under 2 seconds to get one that I have not used in a while. Because it is sorted by name and I recognize the overall shape of the word.

(I am the type that can go through a giant reference book, flip through a ton of pages then quickly find a word on a large page with small font.

on windows 7's default start menu, it takes me much longer to find things in the start menu because I am forced either scroll through the start menu, or type the name, both of which take longer than me putting up one that takes up most of the screen and in under a second, spotting the program I wanted to launch.

Ubuntu does the exact same thing, it forces you to search or go through a ton of menus to find a program rather than spot them in a list.
 

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Great review Adam! I have had 11.04 on a netbook for a while but didn't know either of the battery life problem or of many of the Unity tips. In fact I have a problem machine with a clickpad (no buttons, use bottom left/right of the pad instead). I hate the clickpad, but since it is multitouch, I'll try it with the settings in the review for multitouch.
I don't mind the self-hiding bar, as I hide the startbar in XP and Win 7 to get 1024x768 on my netbooks. In fact, I wish the self-hiding was better in 11.04. The useless titlebar should overlap the top bar in Unity, to gain the space I can get (e.g. firefox + tabmix) with maximized windows in Windows.
 
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Trying it right now. The gui seems poorly thought out. Taking me a little while to just find things that should not be that hard to find like the system settings. A whole bunch of big icons on the left but not one for the settings menu. Also I'm finding having the menu system always on the top bar and not in the open window really strange.

I got everything working at least though and quickly which was a big improvement over the last time I tried Ubuntu where I had to hunt down an audio control panel and AMD drivers to get my dual screen setup working.

Of course the biggest drawback I can see to Linux is there is nothing to do on it. I can't play any of my games or even do things like watch Netflix.
 
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