Ultimate Bottlenecking Guide/Discussion Thread!

[TechyInAZ]

Please stop calling it a 4170K then. It's an FX 4170. There are no K's in the FX lineup.

Now that everything makes sense...Definitely try and get the hexa core 1600 as that'll last you longer especially if you plan on upgrading your GPU in the future, the difference between X370 and a GOOD B350 motherboard for the average user is nothing. Both chipsets allow you to overclock.

 

[The Paladin]

1. 4790K / GTX 970 no bottlenecking what so ever under any condition. (PUBG
2. 4570 /GTX 970 no bottlenecking either. Final Fantasy XIV and such run perfectly on it
Note both system run on SSd drives and have 32GB of ram.

so assume 4790K /1060 or 1070 will be fine as well.

 

[xravenxdota]

Please stop calling it a 4170K then. It's an FX 4170. There are no K's in the FX lineup.

Now that everything makes sense...Definitely try and get the hexa core 1600 as that'll last you longer especially if you plan on upgrading your GPU in the future, the difference between X370 and a GOOD B350 motherboard for the average user is nothing. Both chipsets allow you to overclock.

sry got confused for some reason lol. 😀 anyways ty.Ye i aint much of a gamer so gfx card are least of my worries.I play games like dragon age and emulator games mostly.But ya this cpu's 5 years old so might aswell upgrade it.

 

[TechyInAZ]

Hmm, if you don't plan on upgrading anytime soon, you could even go with a R5 1400/1500X and a B350 motherboard and save a few bucks. It's up to you though.

 

[xravenxdota]

Hmm, if you don't plan on upgrading anytime soon, you could even go with a R5 1400/1500X and a B350 motherboard and save a few bucks. It's up to you though.

I bought what they call an upgrade kit.So kinda limited to what i get.But i just think to hell with that.My friend spend 14k on his pc and he still lost cause he bought a 750ti for 2.5k my currency lol.Now he bought a 1060 and he tries to rub it in his pc's faster.hmmm 7k pc vs 20k pc.So i will do a proper upgrade then most prob 580 + either 1600 or 1800x(not the biggest fan of the x series tbh)

ty for the help btw

 

[TechyInAZ]

Hello everyone,

Now that the bottlenecking guide is over 2 years old now, I'm thinking of resurrecting it by adding ALL new CPUs and GPUs. I would also be doing a major overhaul of the spreadsheets itself as it's very detailed and in many ways, and hard to read.

Instead of listing every single CPU on the planet, I'll group a bunch of CPUs into categories, here is an example: Remember how I listed every SINGLE core i5 Haswell processor in my spreadsheets? Well, instead of listing each individual variant of the core i5, I'll simply compile all core i5 models under one single category.

Would you all like an update to the bottlenecking sheets? If so, please say something here.

 

[paladin_rudjack_7]

Hi guys! I have 6700k and 980Ti, if i change my gpu to 1080ti is my cpu bottleneck?

 

[TechyInAZ]

Hi guys! I have 6700k and 980Ti, if i change my gpu to 1080ti is my cpu bottleneck?

Nope you should be good.

 

[paladin_rudjack_7]

Hi guys! I have 6700k and 980Ti, if i change my gpu to 1080ti is my cpu bottleneck?

Nope you should be good.

Oh thanks for a quick response. Btw i have 1080p 144hz monitor. Should i update 2K 144hz or wait for Volta? 2070 or 2080 - idk what will they call- can bottleneck my cpu? Last question; In some forums they say 1080p and 6700k for 1080Ti causes bottleneck, what is your suggestion for me? Thank you again.

 

[TechyInAZ]

At 1080P even the most powerful of CPUs will bottleneck a 1080 Ti.

But as I said in my main post (1st page 1st post), if your frame rate is ridiculously high and you are bottlenecking, who cares! You are getting a super buttery smooth gaming experience.

Yeah it would be wise to go with a 144hz 2k screen. Heck even a 4k 144hz screen isn't a bad idea if you plan to get Ampere.

 

[theonerm2]

Hello everyone,

Now that the bottlenecking guide is over 2 years old now, I'm thinking of resurrecting it by adding ALL new CPUs and GPUs. I would also be doing a major overhaul of the spreadsheets itself as it's very detailed and in many ways, and hard to read.

Instead of listing every single CPU on the planet, I'll group a bunch of CPUs into categories, here is an example: Remember how I listed every SINGLE core i5 Haswell processor in my spreadsheets? Well, instead of listing each individual variant of the core i5, I'll simply compile all core i5 models under one single category.

Would you all like an update to the bottlenecking sheets? If so, please say something here.

I think if you were to do that that the K models would need to be separate from the non k models because they have potential to be much faster than the regular i5. You can't just assume everyone is running at stock speed on k models. But the non k models can all be grouped together because there isn't a huge difference between each them. I know my cousin had a 2500k and it was overclocked to 4.2GHz and he did not even know it was overclocked. I checked the bios and saw the 42 multiplier. The motherboard has an O.C Genie and he must have somehow enabled it unknowingly. Also there is multicore enhancement on k models that also effects things. With the i7 sometimes the K model is much better than the non k because of differences in default clock speeds and bios settings. Because of multicore enhancement a 4790K will run at 4.4GHz on default settings. That's much better than the 3.8GHz all core turbo of the 4790. Because of that I don't think it would be right to group those 2 together. But the 4770 vs the 4790 there is only a small 100mhz difference so those would be fine grouped together.

 

[theonerm2]

At 1080P even the most powerful of CPUs will bottleneck a 1080 Ti.

But as I said in my main post (1st page 1st post), if your frame rate is ridiculously high and you are bottlenecking, who cares! You are getting a super buttery smooth gaming experience.

Yeah it would be wise to go with a 144hz 2k screen. Heck even a 4k 144hz screen isn't a bad idea if you plan to get Ampere.

Also sometimes it isn't a CPU bottleneck but simply a limitation of the game and how it is coded. Some games will never hit 144 fps no matter the hardware. And sometimes the CPU will limit you a bit but can you really see a difference between 130 fps and 200 fps? I could understand the worry if you were going under 60 when a better cpu could go 120. But when you get a frame rate over 100 fps that's so smooth that it shouldn't matter if it's any higher. I know some people swear that 200 fps is a must for CS:GO but I think that a good player could play just as well at 100 fps as 200 fps and a bad player probably couldn't do any better at 200 fps as they do at 60 fps.

 

[regiliobouma]

Hello everyone,

Now that the bottlenecking guide is over 2 years old now, I'm thinking of resurrecting it by adding ALL new CPUs and GPUs. I would also be doing a major overhaul of the spreadsheets itself as it's very detailed and in many ways, and hard to read.

Instead of listing every single CPU on the planet, I'll group a bunch of CPUs into categories, here is an example: Remember how I listed every SINGLE core i5 Haswell processor in my spreadsheets? Well, instead of listing each individual variant of the core i5, I'll simply compile all core i5 models under one single category.

Would you all like an update to the bottlenecking sheets? If so, please say something here.

hey yes update it i wanted to ask if some one revived this already
but like list the cpu speeds maybe for K model (and ryzen.) like a i7 k oc a 4.8ghz is better then the stock i7 k that is 4.4ghz.

like list the none K model together that are on your list that have the same stats like blue with blue, and black with black. like some i5 will do good. and some dont.
like i5 3340 bad and like i5 3570+ good i dont know things like that maybe list it like at speeds. i5 3rd gen under 2.8ghz bad. i5 3rd above 2.8ghz good. and like X model i5 that is 3.5ghz. some with K models like list there OC speeds if you can find it from your research like if its Oc at like 4.6ghz or at 4.2ghz.
i would keeep your list make a EXEL google list. make it nice and clean.
add like gtx1070 ti gtx 1080ti
(dont know about rx580/570 cause most of those are for mining anyway but if you find they could make a nice lil list also.)

 

[regiliobouma]

btw a i5 2400 with a rx480 does that work out good? i have a rx480 laying around and bought a i5 2400 cheap. so im thinking of making a mini pc build but there is nothing about the 2nd gen or even 1st gen might also be interesting to have in the list

 

[TechyInAZ]

Thanks for the suggestions, i've been super busy with other work, i hope i can get to the new sheets soon.

regilio, there will be bottlenecking hands down, however it's not a bad idea, you should still get good performance.

 

[TechyInAZ]

Ok ladies and gents, revision 2.0 of the ultimate bottlenecking guide is done! Please switch all discussion from this thread to the new one here: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-3680077/ultimate-bottlenecking-guide-rev.html