Question Upgrade my pc

RonaldJD · Nov 6, 2019

I want to upgrade my pc ram to ddr4. But to upgrade to ddr4 i have to also upgrade my motherboard and cpu.

Right now i have:
Motherboard: MSI Z97 Gaming 5
Processor: Intel core i7-4790k
Ram: DDR3 16GB
GPU: GTX 1080TI
Storage: Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB

i was recommended to get these things but i wanted to ask here first.

Recommendation:
Motherboard: MSI B450 GAMING PLUS MAX
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
Ram: Corsair Vengeance LPX - 32GB - DDR4 3000 Mhz

bmockeg · Nov 6, 2019

looks good except I’d get DDR 3600 MHz CAS 16. For a new Ryzen CPU. Check the motherboard QVL for compatibility I prefer Gskill NEO. DDR 3000 will cost you performance.

sizzling · Nov 6, 2019

What is the pc used for? Just gaming?

RonaldJD · Nov 6, 2019

sizzling said:
What is the pc used for? Just gaming?

Yeah mostly gaming. I want to be able to play online games op high fps. I can play most games on high fps but some still lag and go around 30-50 fps.

Nemesia · Nov 6, 2019

RonaldJD said:
Yeah mostly gaming. I want to be able to play online games op high fps. I can play most games on high fps but some still lag and go around 30-50 fps.

30-50 FPS with a GTX 1080TI ? You're playing in 4K right? No way this is 1080p / 1440p fps.

And you should definitely get 3600 MHz ram for that ryzen.

sizzling · Nov 7, 2019

RonaldJD said:
Yeah mostly gaming. I want to be able to play online games op high fps. I can play most games on high fps but some still lag and go around 30-50 fps.

30-50 seems low, is that at 4K? 32Gb RAM seems excessive but apart from that it looks like a nice upgrade.

RonaldJD · Nov 7, 2019

sizzling said:
30-50 seems low, is that at 4K? 32Gb RAM seems excessive but apart from that it looks like a nice upgrade.

I am playing on Quad HD, i been playing this Archeage game for a while and the fps is very low. Also on some other games when there are alot of things happening fps drop like crazy.

RonaldJD · Nov 7, 2019

Nemesia said:
30-50 FPS with a GTX 1080TI ? You're playing in 4K right? No way this is 1080p / 1440p fps.

And you should definitely get 3600 MHz ram for that ryzen.

I am playing on Quad HD, i been playing this Archeage game for a while and the fps is very low. Also on some other games when there are alot of things happening fps drop like crazy.

2plash6 · Nov 8, 2019

What is your budget? You know your components you have are pretty good to begin with.

~~I need to upgrade.~~

The real question is: "should I upgrade?"
I would say you would not need any upgrades in a long time.
Your components are not obsolete. I just got a 4770k to put in an optiplex(I actually did). Why? because it is a good CPU. Really good. If it was bad, than I would not buy it.

And your CPU is even better than mine.
Or maybe overclock your CPU if it is not overclocked already, and that is your upgrade.
But I just want to say that your specs are not "bad". Some parts are old, but not bad.
Your CPU must not be bottlenecking your 1080 ti or ram. If it is, than it is running at an extremely low clock speed. Like an underclocked speed.
And upgrading is not necessary in my opinion.

RonaldJD · Nov 8, 2019

2plash6 said:
What is your budget? You know your components you have are pretty good to begin with.

The real question is: "should I upgrade?"
I would say you would not need any upgrades in a long time.
Your components are not obsolete. I just got a 4770k to put in an optiplex(I actually did). Why? because it is a good CPU. Really good. If it was bad, than I would not buy it.

And your CPU is even better than mine.
Or maybe overclock your CPU if it is not overclocked already, and that is your upgrade.
But I just want to say that your specs are not "bad". Some parts are old, but not bad.
Your CPU must not be bottlenecking your 1080 ti or ram. If it is, than it is running at an extremely low clock speed. Like an underclocked speed.
And upgrading is not necessary in my opinion.

Well Brother Thank you for the information but i still got that 'Upgrade'

https://ibb.co/rZY84ZC

I hope this will boost my performance and improve my gameplay tbh.

RonaldJD · Nov 8, 2019

bmockeg said:
looks good except I’d get DDR 3600 MHz CAS 16. For a new Ryzen CPU. Check the motherboard QVL for compatibility I prefer Gskill NEO. DDR 3000 will cost you performance.

https://ibb.co/rZY84ZC

I hope this will boost my performance and improve my gameplay tbh.

bmockeg · Nov 8, 2019

Looks good!

RonaldJD · Nov 8, 2019

bmockeg said:
Looks good!

yo man you got any time to help me out, i am having a problem. I put all components on pc but now pc wont turn on only when i decharge it and plug it in. It turns on for like 1 sec and then turns off again. you maybe have Discord or something so i can show you? maybe you can help add me MrRonaldJD #9172

bmockeg · Nov 8, 2019

At work right now but I can hit you up in several hours. Does your motherboard need a bios update?

RonaldJD · Nov 8, 2019

bmockeg said:
At work right now but I can hit you up in several hours. Does your motherboard need a bios update?

Bro i have no idea. I am kinda new to this. I builded up my last system but it wasnt that problematic. Is there a way to check if it needs updating?

SgtScream · Nov 8, 2019

Can you run msi afterburner with on screen display configured for both gpu and cpu load as well as temps? At the time the fps dips in game please note the gpu/cpu load/temps. You should be getting much higher fps.

bmockeg · Nov 8, 2019

SgtScream said:
Can you run msi afterburner with on screen display configured for both gpu and cpu load as well as temps? At the time the fps dips in game please note the gpu/cpu load/temps. You should be getting much higher fps.

He isn’t getting into windows to do that. Sounds like a bios issue but I was under the impression the “max” boards from MSI were Ryzen 3000 series ready.

SgtScream · Nov 8, 2019

Oh I didn't realize he already purchased and installed everything. There should be a diagnostic led (EZ Debug LED) on the motherboard. Find out what light is lit in he motherboard's manual.

RonaldJD · Nov 8, 2019

SgtScream said:
Oh I didn't realize he already purchased and installed everything. There should be a diagnostic led (EZ Debug LED) on the motherboard. Find out what light is lit in he motherboard's manual.

i was looking at it but i dont see any LED - also the problem is very weird and i think the mobo is malfunctioning.

https://ibb.co/KbXhFKS

When i plug in the pc it wont boot but when i dicharge the bios and turn it on, it turns on for a sec and goes back off. The if i try to start it again i have to go again and dicharge it and it turns on for a sec again.

SgtScream · Nov 8, 2019

Wow that's a hot mess. There is a light. Find it in the manual and see if any one of them are lit.

SgtScream · Nov 8, 2019

Take the memory module out of slot 1 and install it in slot 4.

RonaldJD · Nov 8, 2019

SgtScream said:
Wow that's a hot mess. There is a light. Find it in the manual and see if any one of them are lit.

Yeah man cable management is all over the place took everything out like 3x and now i just put everything in to test. i will make a video soon to post it

SgtScream · Nov 8, 2019

Did you see my post above? Take the memory module out of slot 1 and install it in slot 4.

RonaldJD · Nov 8, 2019

SgtScream said:
Take the memory module out of slot 1 and install it in slot 4.

I tried that already but its still the same. I have a video you can see exactly what is going on.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqfiBfkBOIA

SgtScream · Nov 8, 2019

I didn't say take the other ram out of slot 2. Keep one ram in BOTH 2 and 4.

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