Build Advice Upgrade or total overhaul?

[blendedlemon]

My current set up is as below (yes it was a prebuilt). I want to either upgrade or do a total overhaul on this and i would really appreciate some advices.
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Approximate Purchase Date: within the next 2 months
Budget Range: $1100 maximum
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming
Are you buying a monitor: No
Current Spec:
CPU: i7-7700K
CPU cooler: EVGA 120 CL11 Liquid Cooler
Motherboard: MSI Z170A Gaming Pro Carbon
Ram: 8GB DDR4
SSD/HDD: Dont remember but can be reused
GPU: RX470
PSU: EVGA 400 N1 (400W)
Chassis: Thermaltake V250
Parts to Upgrade:
- Upgrading the GPU around $300 (4060 8gb/ 3060 12gb) since anything higher than that would prob get bottleneck by the 7700K
- Total overhaul with a budget around $1100. The only things I can reused are the case, storage and may be RAM. If I go down this route, what spec should i get?
Do you need to buy OS: No
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: amazon.com
Location: Endicott, Washington 99125
Parts Preferences: None
Overclocking: No
SLI or Crossfire: No
Your Monitor Resolution: 3840x2160 monitor and Quest 3
Additional Comments: I only use it for gaming and some VR games. I want to be able to play games like Medal of honor, walking dead, DCS VR (hopefully)
And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: system outdated for modern games

Some parts I already pick out for the overhaul option:
- RTX 5070 when it comes out
- i5-14600K

 

[Lutfij]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

My vote; invest in a concurrent platform, either AM5 or the 14th Gen Intel(or 12th Gen)

- Total overhaul with a budget around $1100. The only things I can reused are the case, storage and may be RAM. If I go down this route, what spec should i get?
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*How to Ask for New Build or Upgrade Advice*

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and the community can chime in with worthwhile suggestions.

 

[Hellfire13]

Wait for the 5060/5060ti to drop in a couple of months and reuse the current drives and case. You can also reuse the cooler if you want...

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-14600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor ($224.97 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Frost Commander 140 BLACK 95.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($65.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B760 AORUS ELITE AX ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Silicon Power Value Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $610.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-01-17 12:20 EST-0500

 

[blendedlemon]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

My vote; invest in a concurrent platform, either AM5 or the 14th Gen Intel(or 12th Gen)

- Total overhaul with a budget around $1100. The only things I can reused are the case, storage and may be RAM. If I go down this route, what spec should i get?
You should stylize your thread with info as of in this thread;

*How to Ask for New Build or Upgrade Advice*

How to Ask for New Build or Upgrade Advice First off, respect where respect is due - this is an adaptation of the Animal's *How To Ask For New Build Advice* Sticky. I created this because there's a lot of posts nowadays asking for upgrade advice both on here and on the CPU forums, and I feel...

forums.tomshardware.com

and the community can chime in with worthwhile suggestions.

Done, thanks. Though isnt LGA1700 not a good choice atm? Since there will be no new CPU for that plaform?

 

[helper800]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-14600K 3.5 GHz 14-Core Processor ($224.97 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 140 77.8 CFM CPU Cooler ($47.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Z790-AYW WIFI W ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper Venom 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-7000 CL32 Memory ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake V250 TG ARGB Air ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $732.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-01-17 13:12 EST-0500

 

[logainofhades]

Done, thanks. Though isnt LGA1700 not a good choice atm? Since there will be no new CPU for that plaform?

I don't have complete confidence that the issues with 13th and 14th gen have been resolved either. AM5 makes more sense in this regard. This is just a start, keeping your storage and case. Just needs a GPU.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9700X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($317.94 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 140 77.8 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: ASRock B850 Pro RS ATX AM5 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($96.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake V250 TG ARGB Air ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($97.75 @ Amazon)
Custom: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 140 ($47.90)
Total: $740.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-01-17 13:01 EST-0500

 

[helper800]

Done, thanks. Though isnt LGA1700 not a good choice atm? Since there will be no new CPU for that plaform?

The thing is that LGA1700 is currently significantly cheaper than a comparable AM5/4 system, or more performant for the same cost. The issues with the 13/14 CPUs from Intel are largely fixed and warranties extended to 5 years. If your budget were around 1400 it would be a different story, like so:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9700X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($317.94 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI X670E GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($96.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake V250 TG ARGB Air ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $850.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-01-17 13:13 EST-0500

 

[blendedlemon]

The thing is that LGA1700 is currently significantly cheaper than a comparable AM5/4 system, or more performant for the same cost. The issues with the 13/14 CPUs from Intel are largely fixed and warranties extended to 5 years. If your budget were around 1400 it would be a different story, like so:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9700X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($317.94 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI X670E GAMING PLUS WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($96.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital WD Blue SN5000 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($119.00 @ iBUYPOWER)
Case: Thermaltake V250 TG ARGB Air ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $849.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2025-01-17 13:02 EST-0500

What about the new Intel Socket 1851? Should I wait for that one? May be they can offer compable performance but cheaper than AMD5? Also its brandnew platform

 

[helper800]

What about the new Intel Socket 1851? Should I wait for that one? May be they can offer compable performance but cheaper than AMD5? Also its brandnew platform

Its also a dead end platform and has worse gaming performance as it stands than the 9000 series AMD processors and the 13/14 series Intel CPUs with a couple exceptions. Socket 1851 will only have this one CPU generation as far as I am aware. Intel may do a refresh for that socket but that should not be a huge performance uplift over the current CPUs. Intel's new 1851 socket CPUs seem to have optimization issues in Windows and seems to need game specific optimizations which leads it to have unremarkable gaming performance.

 

[blendedlemon]

Its also a dead end platform and has worse gaming performance as it stands than the 9000 series AMD processors and the 13/14 series Intel CPUs with a couple exceptions. Socket 1851 will only have this one CPU generation as far as I am aware. Intel may do a refresh for that socket but that should not be a huge performance uplift over the current CPUs. Intel's new 1851 socket CPUs seem to have optimization issues in Windows and seems to need game specific optimizations which leads it to have unremarkable gaming performance.

That's dissapointing. So then I'm left with either 13/14th gen for good bang for the buck but dead end platform or AM4 with upgradability but more expensive?

 

[logainofhades]

That's dissapointing. So then I'm left with either 13/14th gen for good bang for the buck but dead end platform or AM4 with upgradability but more expensive?

AM4 is dead too. AM5 is the only one with upgrade path.