Upgraded GPU twice, new 8350, still have graphical stuttering

[hierarchy]

No games are rendering correctly. Seems to be bad graphical stuttering. Cutscenes are choppy. Anti aliasing seems off.

Began when I first got new GPU a 7850 HD, then installed windows 8.1. seemed to be a problem so I have upgraded everything. Still having the same issue now with a r9 280 3Gigs.

It's driving me mad, mate. Could it be windows updates? windows 8.1? I have no idea

 

[Deleted member 217926]

You have a legit copy of Windows and legit copies of the games you are having problems with?

Complete system specs including power supply make and model?

 

[daniel_blacke]

Please post a full detailed build so that people can try to help you.

 

[hierarchy]

You have a legit copy of Windows and legit copies of the games you are having problems with?

Complete system specs including power supply make and model?

Yes. All legit

Please post a full detailed build so that people can try to help you.

FX 8350

R9 280 3 gigs

600 w PSU

8 gigs DDR3

AMD A760 motherboard

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windows 8.1

What is happening 🙁

 

[Deleted member 217926]

Make and model of that '600w' power supply? Not all are created equal. That's why I asked above.

With 2 different GPUs as different in power requirements as an HD 7850 and an R9 280 I really doubt it's the PSU but if it's something that came with a case or a prebuilt computer it might be the problem.

Any other problems? Crashes or blue screens?

Motherboard make and model? If you don't know download and run CPU-Z and it will tell you.

 

[hierarchy]

Make and model of that '600w' power supply? Not all are created equal. That's why I asked above.

With 2 different GPUs as different in power requirements as an HD 7850 and an R9 280 I really doubt it's the PSU but if it's something that came with a case or a prebuilt computer it might be the problem.

Any other problems? Crashes or blue screens?

Motherboard make and model? If you don't know download and run CPU-Z and it will tell you.

i believe its corsair cx600 bronze edition.

no real issues. the once in a blue moon blue screen. but all I get is the flickering backgrounds in game and poor rendering.

its no prebuilt, I had the same issues with my last setup. Only thing the same is the PSU. Could it be the PSU? Im ready to throw more money down the drain, lol. Jesus man.

 

[hierarchy]

Make and model of that '600w' power supply? Not all are created equal. That's why I asked above.

With 2 different GPUs as different in power requirements as an HD 7850 and an R9 280 I really doubt it's the PSU but if it's something that came with a case or a prebuilt computer it might be the problem.

Any other problems? Crashes or blue screens?

Motherboard make and model? If you don't know download and run CPU-Z and it will tell you.

MB=MSI 760GMA-P34(FX)(MS-7641)

 

[Deleted member 217926]

Yeah the Corsair CX is not really junk but it's not on the recommended list. You may very well be having voltage fluctuations in heavy gaming especially if that's the only common part on 2 machines that have the same issue. I never recommend them especially with a discreet GPU. There are almost always better choices for the same or even less money. The CX series uses cheap Chinese made capacitors and they tend to last about as long as their warranty.

You can use the list in my sig for better choices. Stay with tier 2 and up. Or list a budget and country you are buying in and I'll be glad to check for any good deals.

 

[hierarchy]

Yeah the Corsair CX is not really junk but it's not on the recommended list. You may very well be having voltage fluctuations in heavy gaming especially if that's the only common part on 2 machines that have the same issue. I never recommend them especially with a discreet GPU. There are almost always better choices for the same or even less money. The CX series uses cheap Chinese made capacitors and they tend to last about as long as their warranty.

You can use the list in my sig for better choices. Stay with tier 2 and up. Or list a budget and country you are buying in and I'll be glad to check for any good deals.

really dont want to spend more than 80 right now. 60 will be preferred. selling all my old stuff on amazon since they apparently work perfect so ill be able to buy a better one, however long amazon takes to get me the cash.

you're probably right, because i bought this PSU when I bought the 7850 HD, because it required the PSU plug. you think theres a major difference between 7850 and r9 280? i can return that as well. but ill be down just for the PSU.

from new york, usa

 

[James Mason]

This should cover all your bases and still be under $60.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-110b10750vr

 

[Deleted member 217926]

This should cover all your bases and still be under $60.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-110b10750vr

The NEX models suffer from the same capacitor issue as the Corsair CX. This is the cheap EVGA 750w power supply you want to recommend. It's made by SuperFlower vs FSP for the NEX models.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-110b20750vr

$60 after rebate and although only 80 Plus Bronze rated it did Silver in testing.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&file=print&reid=393


You don't need 750 watts of course but you are unlikely to find a better unit for cheaper unless the mail in rebate is a deal killer. If so i can look around some more.

 

[hierarchy]

This should cover all your bases and still be under $60.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-110b10750vr

The NEX models suffer from the same capacitor issue as the Corsair CX. This is the cheap EVGA 750w power supply you want to recommend. It's made by SuperFlower vs FSP for the NEX models.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-110b20750vr

$60 after rebate and although only 80 Plus Bronze rated it did Silver in testing.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&file=print&reid=393


You don't need 750 watts of course but you are unlikely to find a better unit for cheaper unless the mail in rebate is a deal killer. If so i can look around some more.

im actually picking up in person from micro center as i don't have the luxury of time. http://www.microcenter.com/category/4294966654/Power-Supplies queens store if you would ever so kindly. that corsair is the first one that pops up

funny thing is, i bought a 750 corsair on my first MB, plugged it into the first MB, and one of the wires literally burst into flames. i disconnected before any damage and have upgraded everything since. i think this is where the source originates. then i went and bought the same psu, less wattage, upgrading everything else thinking that was the problem. I still have my spare 6670

 

[Deleted member 217926]

The only Corsair power supplies I would buy personally are the high end AX/AXi and HX/HXi series but they are overpriced usually and except the AXi you can get the same units under other names for less. I would use an RM series unit without reservations as well but you can do better for less.

I just look through 7 pages of power supplies at the Queens store and wow they are overpriced compared to buying online. I know they have great in store deals on occasion but it doesn't seem like that's an every day thing.

So there is literally 1 unit meeting the 550w requirement for your system under $80 in their store that I would recommend and it's the exact same 750w EVGA B2 that is $60 after rebate that I listed above. It's $69 in the store and that's still dealing with a $10 mail in rebate.

http://www.microcenter.com/product/433612/SuperNOVA_750_750W_Watt_Bronze_ATX_12V_Power_Supply

 

[Deleted member 217926]

If you change your mind about ordering online this XFX is made by Seasonic like all XFX units and is $53.10 with no mail in rebate to deal with.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550sxxb9

 

[hierarchy]

The only Corsair power supplies I would buy personally are the high end AX/AXi and HX/HXi series but they are overpriced usually and except the AXi you can get the same units under other names for less. I would use an RM series unit without reservations as well but you can do better for less.

I just look through 7 pages of power supplies at the Queens store and wow they are overpriced compared to buying online. I know they have great in store deals on occasion but it doesn't seem like that's an every day thing.

So there is literally 1 unit meeting the 550w requirement for your system under $80 in their store that I would recommend and it's the exact same 750w EVGA B2 that is $60 after rebate that I listed above. It's $69 in the store and that's still dealing with a $10 mail in rebate.

http://www.microcenter.com/product/433612/SuperNOVA_750_750W_Watt_Bronze_ATX_12V_Power_Supply

whoops i meant brooklyn store. they have different listings. would you say evga is the best bang for the buck?

 

[hierarchy]

The only Corsair power supplies I would buy personally are the high end AX/AXi and HX/HXi series but they are overpriced usually and except the AXi you can get the same units under other names for less. I would use an RM series unit without reservations as well but you can do better for less.

I just look through 7 pages of power supplies at the Queens store and wow they are overpriced compared to buying online. I know they have great in store deals on occasion but it doesn't seem like that's an every day thing.

So there is literally 1 unit meeting the 550w requirement for your system under $80 in their store that I would recommend and it's the exact same 750w EVGA B2 that is $60 after rebate that I listed above. It's $69 in the store and that's still dealing with a $10 mail in rebate.

http://www.microcenter.com/product/433612/SuperNOVA_750_750W_Watt_Bronze_ATX_12V_Power_Supply

i see these. http://www.microcenter.com/product/419581/600B_600_Watt_ATX_Power_Supply

http://www.microcenter.com/product/365238/TR2_Series_600_Watt_ATX_Power_Supply

http://www.microcenter.com/product/421947/80_Bronze_650W_ATX_Power_Supply

http://www.microcenter.com/product/433612/SuperNOVA_750_750W_Watt_Bronze_ATX_12V_Power_Supply

sorry meant brooklyn. i really need it now because im moving in about 2 weeks. when i get settled then i will consult you for a better one. just need the cheap one for the moment

 

[Deleted member 217926]

Yeah the 600B is lower end than the Corsair CX, the Thermaltake TR2 is literally one of the worst 'name' brand units on the market as are any low end Thermasltake units.

That is the same model 750w SuperNova EVGA I recommended from the other store. Personally I would get the XFX and save $30 but it's your money. You did say it only happened in gaming. No need to ever upgrade either the EVGA or the XFX.

 

[hierarchy]

Yeah the 600B is lower end than the Corsair CX, the Thermaltake TR2 is literally one of the worst 'name' brand units on the market as are any low end Thermasltake units.

That is the same model 750w SuperNova EVGA I recommended from the other store. Personally I would get the XFX and save $30 but it's your money. You did say it only happened in gaming. No need to ever upgrade either the EVGA or the XFX.

ok so what do I buy online. Looking to spend 80 to 100. Thanks for everything man

 

[Deleted member 217926]

With the system you listed I would get this Seasonic G series 550w unit. It's 80 Plus Gold rated and semi modular. Plenty of power for what you have listed and at a mere $79.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-ssr550rm

If you are planning future upgrades then go with the 650w model. Slightly more expensive at $93 but it would have you covered up to a Titan X or GTX 980 Ti level card from Nvidia at least. AMD cards are a bit more power hungry.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-ssr650rm

 

[hierarchy]

With the system you listed I would get this Seasonic G series 550w unit. It's 80 Plus Gold rated and semi modular. Plenty of power for what you have listed and at a mere $79.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-ssr550rm

If you are planning future upgrades then go with the 650w model. Slightly more expensive at $93 but it would have you covered up to a Titan X or GTX 980 Ti level card from Nvidia at least. AMD cards are a bit more power hungry.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-ssr650rm

for an R9 280 3GB with an FX 8350? You positive thats enough wattage? I need to analyze your thread and become PSU literate...i learn more from talking though. I also have a 1TB HD, another 500 GB, and another 500 GB. just triple checking

 

[Deleted member 217926]

Yep. I'm positive. Wattage is not as important as amperage. Lower end units add in minor rail amps to the total power of a unit while higher end brands like Seasonic label their units with 12v rail power only. Since the 12v rail powers the big stuff like the graphics card and CPU that is really all that matters when selecting a power supply.

The Seasonic G 550w unit provides a full 45 amps on the 12v rail and since amps ( 45 ) x volts ( 12 ) = watts you get 540 watts of the rated 550 watts on the all important 12v rail.

The Corsair CX 600 you have provides 46 amps or 552 watts on the 12v rail.

See how that can be misleading? The 550w Seasonic is actually only 1 amp or 12 watts less powerful than a unit rated 50 watts higher. Even more the Seasonic is rated to put out that power at a 50C ambient temperature while the Corsair is only rated at 30C. 30C is a hot summer day in many places much less in a hot computer. The Seasonic can also pull quite a bit more than it's rated at while many lower end units can't even meet their rated power ( the CX can, usually).

So quality and output aside a system with an R9 280 needs a recommended 550w power supply.

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

The 550w recommendation assumes you don't have a quality unit and leaves headroom for overclocking. Check here:

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/10/14/xfx_r9_280_double_dissipation_3gb_video_card_review/9#.VXH_D-LqE1I

As you can see the whole system with an overclocked XFX R9 280 Double Dissipation 3GB pulled 337 watts. That leaves you a very safe 200+ watt headroom at max draw.

Get the 550w unit for what you have now or the 650w unit if you plan on upgrading.

 

[hierarchy]

Yep. I'm positive. Wattage is not as important as amperage. Lower end units add in minor rail amps to the total power of a unit while higher end brands like Seasonic label their units with 12v rail power only. Since the 12v rail powers the big stuff like the graphics card and CPU that is really all that matters when selecting a power supply.

The Seasonic G 550w unit provides a full 45 amps on the 12v rail and since amps ( 45 ) x volts ( 12 ) = watts you get 540 watts of the rated 550 watts on the all important 12v rail.

The Corsair CX 600 you have provides 46 amps or 552 watts on the 12v rail.

See how that can be misleading? The 550w Seasonic is actually only 1 amp or 12 watts less powerful than a unit rated 50 watts higher. Even more the Seasonic is rated to put out that power at a 50C ambient temperature while the Corsair is only rated at 30C. 30C is a hot summer day in many places much less in a hot computer. The Seasonic can also pull quite a bit more than it's rated at while many lower end units can't even meet their rated power ( the CX can, usually).

So quality and output aside a system with an R9 280 needs a recommended 550w power supply.

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

The 550w recommendation assumes you don't have a quality unit and leaves headroom for overclocking. Check here:

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/10/14/xfx_r9_280_double_dissipation_3gb_video_card_review/9#.VXH_D-LqE1I

As you can see the whole system with an overclocked XFX R9 280 Double Dissipation 3GB pulled 337 watts. That leaves you a very safe 200+ watt headroom at max draw.

Get the 550w unit for what you have now or the 650w unit if you plan on upgrading.

wow. so they could list a corsair 1000 and it still won't be shit compared to a seasonic. amazing. (i know, depending on the type). but the mainstream stuff, they are really getting people on that. PSUs are way more important than I thought. I see the seasonic 750 is 109. i just wanna be sure for my own sanity. I'll probably get that. Gonna grab that evga at micro center until my main one gets here.....or just keep that one until later. I'm not waiting.

 

[Deleted member 217926]

I'm running an i7 2600k at 4.5Ghz and an overclocked GTX 780 on a Seasonic Platinum 660w unit and I will keep the power supply when I get a 980 Ti. There is no reason to have over a 650w power supply for a single GPU system even with an R9 290X and overclocking. You can trust the RealHardTechX list.

The Corsair isn't even mislabeled. All Corsair units are rated at continuous power even their budget series. That means they can continuously put out what they are rated at. You would be surprised how many 'name' brands out there have power supplies rated at peak output and not continuous. Meaning they can briefly reach the labeled wattage but not sustain it.

That is especially true of units that come with cases. You might have a unit labeled at 500 watts that can only supply 240 watts of that on the 12v rail. It can technically ( legally ) get away with that because they add the minor rails to the total.

 

[Deleted member 217926]

Oh that EVGA is a fine unit. The 750w B2? It's made by SuperFlower a direct competitor to Seasonic for the quality crown. Their units are very good and there would be no reason to upgrade from that.

Sorry, missed you saying you were getting that unit before my last post. It's a very good value.

 

[hierarchy]

Oh that EVGA is a fine unit. The 750w B2? It's made by SuperFlower a direct competitor to Seasonic for the quality crown. Their units are very good and there would be no reason to upgrade from that.

Sorry, missed you saying you were getting that unit before my last post. It's a very good value.

I ordered the seasonic. got a 750 anyway. I will upgrade. I love pc gaming. Just for my sanity. But I want the EVGA until it gets here, so off to microcenter. then i'll return it once the seasonic gets here. 5 days is too long for at least a year of trying to figure this out