Build Advice Upgrading AM4 Budget Build for Light Gaming ?

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Hi.
In this thread, I talked about my need to replace my faulty PSU.
Next month I'm going to be taking a trip to Germany and will order a new PSU through a friend there as I live in Africa.
I'll probably be ordering the Thermaltake BM3 750W Bronze PSU at €70 (the 650W was recommended by --SID--, but on Amazon the 750W is cheaper), but seeing some deals that seemed too good to pass up, I figured I may as well do some upgrading while there.
I guess my main question is if you think there are things I could improve on my possible buys and which ones I should prioritize.

Current Build:

MSI B450M PRO VDH
Ryzen 3 1200
XFX Radeon RX 550 (4GB)
2 x 4 GB Patriot Signature DDR4 RAM 2400 MHz
Crucial MX500 2.5" SSD (500GB)
Case: CiT GForce Mid-Tower (link attached, since most people probably won't know what that is)

All are running in stock configurations. I haven't done any overclocking and probably won't.

People have been telling me to upgrade the RAM since a long time, so that is the first thing I'll be upgrading. I found this kit on de.partpicker.com:
G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory €30

I also found the Ryzen 5 3500X at €40, which seemed an upgrade too good to pass up. It doesn't have a cooler, but I have the Wraith Stealth from the Ryzen 3 1200, so that should work fine, I think.

I'll probably also look to add some more storage and the Teamgroup MP33 Pro 1TB €53 seemed to be the best deal.

The thought even entered my mind of getting a RX 5600 XT (AS Rock Phantom Gaming D OC) €145, but that most likely won't happen. I still would appreciate advice on if that sounds like a good deal or not. I guess I'm just wondering if you have any thoughts or other advice for upgrades.

Should the Ripjaws 3600 play nice with the Ryzen 5 and the motherboard I have?

Approximate Purchase Date: this week or next (latest)

Budget Range: I think looking at the kind of prices I'm looking at may give you an idea. It's quite ultra budget, but I am willing to spend a bit more if there's a very good deal. It's not like I really need an upgrade, it's more a case of "this deal is cheap and would make quite a difference, so why not?"

System Usage from Most to Least Important: light gaming and video editing (Vegas is my main video editing program)

Are you buying a monitor: Not unless there's a truly incredible deal.

Parts to Upgrade: PSU definitely, RAM probably, CPU (seems like a good deal), everything else optional

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: amazon.de (with others I'd have to ask if it's possible)

Location: Berlin, Germany

Parts Preferences: None particularly

Overclocking: No

Multiple GPUs: No

Your Monitor Resolution: 1600x900

Additional Comments: Software I use is mainly Vegas and Handbrake, but I have done some work with other video editors; I mainly play World of Tanks, but mostly older games otherwise

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: PSU having problems and others just nice upgrades to improve system
 
Hi.
In this thread, I talked about my need to replace my faulty PSU.
Next month I'm going to be taking a trip to Germany and will order a new PSU through a friend there as I live in Africa.
I'll probably be ordering the Thermaltake BM3 750W Bronze PSU at €70 (the 650W was recommended by --SID--, but on Amazon the 750W is cheaper), but seeing some deals that seemed too good to pass up, I figured I may as well do some upgrading while there.
I guess my main question is if you think there are things I could improve on my possible buys and which ones I should prioritize.

Current Build:

MSI B450M PRO VDH
Ryzen 3 1200
XFX Radeon RX 550 (4GB)
2 x 4 GB Patriot Signature DDR4 RAM 2400 MHz
Crucial MX500 2.5" SSD (500GB)
Case: CiT GForce Mid-Tower (link attached, since most people probably won't know what that is)

All are running in stock configurations. I haven't done any overclocking and probably won't.

People have been telling me to upgrade the RAM since a long time, so that is the first thing I'll be upgrading. I found this kit on de.partpicker.com:
G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory €30

I also found the Ryzen 5 3500X at €40, which seemed an upgrade too good to pass up. It doesn't have a cooler, but I have the Wraith Stealth from the Ryzen 3 1200, so that should work fine, I think.

I'll probably also look to add some more storage and the Teamgroup MP33 Pro 1TB €53 seemed to be the best deal.

The thought even entered my mind of getting a RX 5600 XT (AS Rock Phantom Gaming D OC) €145, but that most likely won't happen. I still would appreciate advice on if that sounds like a good deal or not. I guess I'm just wondering if you have any thoughts or other advice for upgrades.

Should the Ripjaws 3600 play nice with the Ryzen 5 and the motherboard I have?

Approximate Purchase Date: this week or next (latest)

Budget Range: I think looking at the kind of prices I'm looking at may give you an idea. It's quite ultra budget, but I am willing to spend a bit more if there's a very good deal. It's not like I really need an upgrade, it's more a case of "this deal is cheap and would make quite a difference, so why not?"

System Usage from Most to Least Important: light gaming and video editing (Vegas is my main video editing program)

Are you buying a monitor: Not unless there's a truly incredible deal.

Parts to Upgrade: PSU definitely, RAM probably, CPU (seems like a good deal), everything else optional

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: amazon.de (with others I'd have to ask if it's possible)

Location: Berlin, Germany

Parts Preferences: None particularly

Overclocking: No

Multiple GPUs: No

Your Monitor Resolution: 1600x900

Additional Comments: Software I use is mainly Vegas and Handbrake, but I have done some work with other video editors; I mainly play World of Tanks, but mostly older games otherwise

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: PSU having problems and others just nice upgrades to improve system

never order smart psus there junk fire hazards.

heres a part list ive comprised.

it has everything you need while the nvme is a bit slower for the standard it has a heatsink intergrated ( they get hot) that will fit under the gpu. as they tend to overhang. ive added in a heatsink as well and bumped the memory up.

the lower your resolution the cpu will be more important at 1080p and lower.

the gpu is a decent deal

it beats out the 3050 nvidia easily.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/BvJgpK

it will be night and day with the 3500x.
 
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The above list is thoughtful and thrifty, kudos!

I admittedly know little about the EU market. I would ask, what is your current monitor and its sync type, resolution, and refresh rate?

I have had exceptionally good results using G Skill RAM kits with AMD. I have also had great results with the Silicone Power kits. Being honest though, IDK if the price could be beat on that kit linked in @beyondlogic list in the market you are shopping.

IMO if you were going to stick with the 3500X, I also would not choose to swap the cooler straight away. IMO it would be better to seek 5600 if BIOS supports it and can be found even used for a similar price sans the other cooler. (a twenty is a twenty)
 
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The above list is thoughtful and thrifty, kudos!

I admittedly know little about the EU market. I would ask, what is your current monitor and its sync type, resolution, and refresh rate?

I have had exceptionally good results using G Skill RAM kits with AMD. I have also had great results with the Silicone Power kits. Being honest though, IDK if the price could be beat on that kit linked in @beyondlogic list in the market you are shopping.

IMO if you were going to stick with the 3500X, I also would not choose to swap the cooler straight away. IMO it would be better to seek 5600 if BIOS supports it and can be found even used for a similar price sans the other cooler. (a twenty is a twenty)

personally just a guess on monitor type. since his res is 900p

if its as old as i think it is

its probly a tn panel 900p at 60

either a dell or hp.

perks of being around offices since i was a kid these things where everywhere lol. hp and dell flooded the offices with them at least in uk.

g skill works with some boards vendors better then others personally gigabyte seems to really like

KLEVV BOLT X DDR4


ive managed to get it to work with practically all gigabyte boards.

patriot memory really seems to hate msi boards wont read them but is fine in a gigabyte board lol.
 
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Instead of guessing, do some testing to see what component upgrades might help.

Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
This makes the graphics card loaf a bit.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

I might guess the cpu is your limiter.

Is 8gb of ram insufficient? I might guess yes, particularly if you run anything else along with gaming.
To be certain, look at task manager/resource monitor while you are active.
Look at the memory tab and the hard fault rate column. Anything much more than zero says you need more ram.
 

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