[SOLVED] Upgrading my obsolete pc

[Charseza]

Hey everyone.

It's been almost 5 years since I last posted a thread, and the reason to that is because I was still satisfied with my pc.

Even if it was low end, I could play and do whatever I want, to an extent of course.

It's sad to say but, my pc is getting a bit obsolete (in my opinion) so I'm planning to buy a new one, but not exactly the most recent components.

Brace yourselves, for here are my specs :

i3 4150
Biostar H81mvh3 mobo
8gb ddr3
1tb hdd
Some psu idk anymore
GTX 750 2gb (non ti)

It's been obsolete for a while now, no? Don't judge me, as I am not rich enough to buy a decent computer.

But for what I do, it works, and you can't take that away from me.

So recently, I've been browsing around, trying to get back in to the market since I haven't been active in it for quite a while.

I am now lost when it comes to what works with a budget in today's market of hardware and triple A games.

So far, this is what I'm planning to get :

i5 7500/8500
16gb DDR4
GTX 1650/1660/1050 ti/1060
A mobo that supports m.2 for the 7th or 8th gen intel processors' socket
Probably a good branded 800w psu

I need your guys' input here. I don't have a clear budget right now, but for everyone wondering, around where I'm from the price range for an i5 7500/8500 + h310 board is around 100-150 USD.

That excludes the ram/gpu/psu/etc

Anyone have better suggestions on what I should get? All answers are appreciated, but please do not judge me nor make fun of my "poverty"

All the best, cheers.

 

[Koekieezz]

Any specific ram frequency you prefer for this setup?

Mostly the same, i dont care any ram speeds for intel because of how those cpu work, but if you want to, grab those 3200mhz/3600mhz kits.

it should increase the performance a little bit on memory intensive workload. but not as much on gaming, well still there is a little bump in performance.

ram configuration and speed only matters more if you're using a Ryzen cpu

 

[Koekieezz]

@Koekieezz for a $20 difference, I can get the i5 10400 + B560 aorus pro ax (gigabyte) over the $180 i3 10100F + B460m DS3H V2 (Gigabyte)

Must hurry before anyone else take it XD, 10400F is better, 6core 12threads, also B560 aorus pro ax is pretty good too!

 

[Charseza]

Mostly the same, i dont care any ram speeds for intel because of how those cpu work, but if you want to, grab those 3200mhz/3600mhz kits.

it should increase the performance a little bit on memory intensive workload. but not as much on gaming, well still there is a little bump in performance.

ram configuration and speed only matters more if you're using a Ryzen cpu

Do I go for 4x8GB sticks or 4x4GB sticks? I don't really see a use for 32gb in my opinion

 

[Eximo]

2x8GB is more power efficient, typically. Nothing wrong with 4x4GB if you have the slots and it is slightly cheaper.

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I know you've moved passed it, but just for everyone's information there are two incompatible LGA 1151 sockets.

100 and 200 series boards will support 6th and 7th generation Intel chips (H110, H270, etc)
300 series boards will support 8th and 9th generation Intel chips. (H310, H370, Z370, Z390, etc)

 

[Koekieezz]

Do I go for 4x8GB sticks or 4x4GB sticks? I don't really see a use for 32gb in my opinion

Well its all up to you

Just make sure you sure know for what lots of ram are going to be used for.
16GB is the sweetspot for now since 8GB of ram already limits the usability by windows using 4gbs of ram and the rest for apps, or games.

Since i upgraded to 2x8gb i could play AAA games while also opening chrome and some youtube tabs with discord open and spotify open, without worrying the performance drops

also if you could upgrade your cooler to get enough adequate cooling

 

[Willemcross]

Any specific ram frequency you prefer for this setup?

Faster ram is always better, but I think you'd be fine with 2666MHz or 3000Mhz

 

[Koekieezz]

Faster ram is always better, but I think you'd be fine with 2666MHz or 3000Mhz

Not by much if he's squeezing his budget, since how intel cores work, but if the price difference is small, go for 3200mhz or 3600mhz instead 😂

 

[Charseza]

Do you guys think the i5 10400 + b560 aorus pro ax for $200 could be a scam?

 

[cryoburner]

So far, this is what I'm planning to get :

i5 7500/8500
16gb DDR4
GTX 1650/1660/1050 ti/1060
A mobo that supports m.2 for the 7th or 8th gen intel processors' socket
Probably a good branded 800w psu

I don't think it's been mentioned yet, but be aware that there has been a major graphics card shortage going on since early this year. I don't know how the situation is in the Philippines, but in most regions graphics cards have been out of stock at retail stores, and marked up to 2 to 3 times their MSRP by resellers. The prices do seem to be trending back downward now, but they are still generally well above their suggested prices, even for older used cards, and it will probably be at least some months before they get back to where they should be. If you are shopping for a card, just be aware of the suggested prices in your region, and you may need to wait on buying one if you don't want to pay considerable more for it.

As for performance, your list covered a fairly wide range there. And the newer "SUPER" versions of some of these cards will be notably faster than their non-SUPER counterparts. A 1660 SUPER or 1660 Ti should offer a little over twice the performance of a 1050 Ti, and even the regular, non-SUPER/Ti version of the 1660 should be nearly twice as fast as a 1050 Ti. Even a regular 1650 can be over 30% faster than a 1050 Ti, and a 1650 SUPER over 30% faster still, and not too far behind the regular 1660. So, unless the 1050 Ti costs a lot less, it might not be worth considering.

As for the CPUs, as was said, the newer ones will offer more cores at each price level. The current "10th-gen" i3 lineup offers 4-core with 8-threads, making them perform close to i7 processors from the "7th gen". So unless you are getting a really good value on used hardware, a newer model is likely the way to go.

And yeah, you absolutely don't need an 800 watt PSU for this hardware if you are buying one from a good brand that can actually deliver its advertised wattage. It's unlikely these components would ever draw much more than 300 watts from the PSU under full load, so even a good 550 watt PSU might provide a reasonable amount of headroom for this level of hardware. And a 650 model would handle just about any future hardware you might throw at it, aside from possibly some of the highest-tier 300+ watt graphics cards.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

That could be legit. I don't know if you are in the USA, but microcenter, which is a chain here, is showing they have the i5 10400F by itself for 139.99. The b560 aorus, according to Amazon, that board is a 200+ dollar board. So unless someone is having a sale.....

However, something like this might do it.

https://www.microcenter.com/product/634300/asrock-b560m-hdv-intel-lga-1200-microatx-motherboard

I've got an ASRock AB350 pro 4 in my system for about the last 2-3 years. Keep in mind, I'm on an AMD platform. But it's been a good board.

As far as graphics cards, yes, you are going to pay quite a bit for a graphics card, at least in the USA. I think an older GTX 970 is still selling for 150-175 for a card that's 5-6 years old if that gives an idea. I actually just ordered a used GTX 1070 as an upgrade, which is still 4-5 years old, and it was just over 400 dollars. But should be close to performance of a GTX 1660 Super or TI. I have the GTX 970 now. But even if you got a deal on something like a GTX 970 or 980ti that is proven to work, those might tide you over until prices come down.

 

[Koekieezz]

Do you guys think the i5 10400 + b560 aorus pro ax for $200 could be a scam?

you could still refund if you're scammed, I'll hope the best for you Tell us when you got hands on the items

 

[Charseza]

Idk if what I'm abt to do is legal.

Technically this is already I think supposed to be a closed thread but since there's a reply option, I'll go ahead and give an update about my new system.

So I came from these specs which I bought around 2017 :

i3-4150
Biostar H81mvh3
2x4gb low profile Kingston 1333mhz
Palit GTX 750 2gb non ti
Aza 450w tru rated PSU
320gb WD Green HDD

My post was dated on the 8th of July, almost a month ago.

Within 25 days of benchmarking prices of hardware in my locale, with very little money spent, these are the specs I've decided to stay with for a while :

i5-4690
Gigabyte GA-H97m-D3H
2x8gb Kingston Hyperx White 1600mhz ddr3
2x4gb Gskill Ripjaws 1600mhz ddr3
Zotac GTX 1060 3gb
500gb WD Green HDD
500gb WD Blue HDD
Aerocool Strike X 500w 80+ bronze

I also recently sold my oem HP monitor, the W2027a. I got it with an HP pc set waaaaay back prolly more than 10 years, give or take 2 years. I'm now planning to buy either a 75z or 144hz curved gaming monitor and maybe a SATA ssd.

I could opt for an m.2 ssd but I'll need a pci to m.2 card.

That is all for my update.

 

[Charseza]

Idk if what I'm abt to do is legal.

Technically this is already I think supposed to be a closed thread but since there's a reply option, I'll go ahead and give an update about my new system.

So I came from these specs which I bought around 2017 :

i3-4150
Biostar H81mvh3
2x4gb low profile Kingston 1333mhz
Palit GTX 750 2gb non ti
Aza 450w tru rated PSU
320gb WD Green HDD

My post was dated on the 8th of July, almost a month ago.

Within 25 days of benchmarking prices of hardware in my locale, with very little money spent, these are the specs I've decided to stay with for a while :

i5-4690
Gigabyte GA-H97m-D3H
2x8gb Kingston Hyperx White 1600mhz ddr3
2x4gb Gskill Ripjaws 1600mhz ddr3
Zotac GTX 1060 3gb
500gb WD Green HDD
500gb WD Blue HDD
Aerocool Strike X 500w 80+ bronze

I also recently sold my oem HP monitor, the W2027a. I got it with an HP pc set waaaaay back prolly more than 10 years, give or take 2 years. I'm now planning to buy either a 75z or 144hz curved gaming monitor and maybe a SATA ssd.

I could opt for an m.2 ssd but I'll need a pci to m.2 card.

That is all for my update.

ANOTHER UPDATE!!!

I just want to update my pc specs for you guys again just for the heck of it. I'm pretty happy with it though

So from this :
i3-4150
Biostar H81mvh3
2x4gb low profile Kingston 1333mhz
Palit GTX 750 2gb non ti
Aza 450w tru rated PSU
320gb WD Green HDD

To this :
i5-4690
Gigabyte GA-H97m-D3H
2x8gb Kingston Hyperx White 1600mhz ddr3
2x4gb Gskill Ripjaws 1600mhz ddr3
Zotac GTX 1060 3gb
500gb WD Green HDD
500gb WD Blue HDD
Aerocool Strike X 500w 80+ bronze

and finally

Here's a photo! : https://ibb.co/dgsvnhZ

Intel Core i5-8400 Processor
Gigabyte H310M-DS2 Motherboard
Inplay 240ax AIO Liquid CPU Cooler
2x8GB 2133mhz Kingston Memory DDR4
Gigabyte AORUS GTX 1080 Ti Xtreme Edition 11GB GDDR5X
512GB Ramsta SATA SSD
2TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM HDD
Corsair CX650M Semi Modular PSU
Coolman Robin 3 Case
6 Inplay Ice Exhaust Fans
3 Inplay Ice Intake Fans

I think this'll do for a few more years. I'm considering upgrading to an 8500 or an 8600(K)

That is all!