Question Upgrading to a 4080 instead of a 4070ti, will my setup be enough?

[UnknownG]

Looking to upgrade from an RTX 2070 Super to a 4080 now that I saw how the 4070ti really didn't exceed expectations at that price. I want to ask if I have the required specs to be able to play at 1440p 240hz. I mainly play ranked Cod, Fortnite, Apex, etc looking into playing more RPG games like Hogwarts, cyberpunk, and Elder Ring. I am assuming the motherboard and CPU could use an upgrade? This was my first build and since then only the CPU cooler has been upgraded. Thanks in advance.

CPU - Ryzen 7 3700x 3rd Gen
CPU cooler - NZXT Kraken
Motherboard - b450 Tomahawk Max
Ram - 32 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200hz
SSD - 1tb
HD - 2tb
PSU - Corsair RM750e
GPU - Nvidia RTX 2070 S
Monitor - Gigabyte M27Q-X

 

[punkncat]

What is it about the 4080 that strikes you as being worth 2X the price?

Not trying to point anything out, just curious. I was just doing some window shopping myself and find 4GB of VRAM and just slightly higher clock speeds not to really be enticing for another of my 6 dead presidents. Just my .02 on it.

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

What is it about the 4080 that strikes you as being worth 2X the price?

Not trying to point anything out, just curious. I was just doing some window shopping myself and find 4GB of VRAM and just slightly higher clock speeds not to really be enticing for another of my 6 dead presidents. Just my .02 on it.

Which further reinforces my point of the 4090 being the only 4000 series card worth the purchase. Call it what you want but no other card gives 60% performance improvement for a $100 price increase over previous gen and has 24GB VRAM.

 

[UnknownG]

What is it about the 4080 that strikes you as being worth 2X the price?

Not trying to point anything out, just curious. I was just doing some window shopping myself and find 4GB of VRAM and just slightly higher clock speeds not to really be enticing for another of my 6 dead presidents. Just my .02 on it.

Seems more of an I want to upgrade to a newer gpu to keep up I guess considering I skipped the 30 series. It seems I didn't do enough research. Fairly new to this with only having 2 builds under my belt so I appreciate the input.

 

[punkncat]

Seems more of an I want to upgrade to a newer gpu to keep up I guess considering I skipped the 30 series. It seems I didn't do enough research. Fairly new to this with only having 2 builds under my belt so I appreciate the input.

Not at all. The issue here is that NVIDIA got used to wallet raping everyone and is honestly releasing cards well overpriced for the performance...and I am an NVIDIA guy. I half heartedly purchased the 3070 Reference card at $500 and was of a hope that things would correct. Instead of correcting, leadership hit some more crack rocks and doubled down.

The longer this goes the more and more I think about jumping ship for AMD. Price to performance is FAR more attractive aside from some (various) small details surrounding (mostly) DLSS and "Ray-Tracing (read as gimmick)".

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

Seems more of an I want to upgrade to a newer gpu to keep up I guess considering I skipped the 30 series. It seems I didn't do enough research. Fairly new to this with only having 2 builds under my belt so I appreciate the input.

Personally if I were in your shoes I'd also look at a CPU upgrade.... (5800x3D for your board?)

I myself built with the 1080 Ti in 2017... skipped the 20 series... went 3090 in 2021 and went 4090 in 2023.

So many people are saying the 4090 is overpriced... but the numbers don't lie.

Compared to the 3090...

Port Royal

FireStrike Ultra

Those aren't typos... 70/80% bump in benchmark scores... and it ain't all because of the processor.

Not at all. The issue here is that NVIDIA got used to wallet raping everyone and is honestly releasing cards well overpriced for the performance...and I am an NVIDIA guy.

Blame the miners... they had their cake... now they get to eat it. 🤣 🤣 🤣

I'll still continue to stand by my statement... the 4090 is definitely worth it due to the out of this world performance upgrade over previous gen.

 

[punkncat]

@TravisPNW , I respect your ability to spend. 😉

On the real, I have no particular need for a graphics card of that kind of power. I would have liked to see traditional pricing schemes at least partially adhered to, in spite of the performance boost. I know I make more of it in my mind than the reality in numbers, but the burning cable and other various issues in the high end cards is a point of concern for me. (I feel the same about Ryzen 7xxx as well).

I picked up my 1080's in ~2018 and overpaid at $600 for one of them, the other was the traditional $400. Even when you count this artificial inflation I just cannot justify spending REAL amounts of money, like paying your mortgage and stuff, kind of prices for what most users treat as a toy. If I truly worked with the cards abilities I might feel differently. I spend less on my last two complete builds than the price of a 4090. Heck, come to think of it, right about what the 4080 costs. Crazy!

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

I respect your ability to spend. 😉

It's because I'm 48... single... have a good job and don't have any kids or ex-wives. 🤣 You're not wrong though... I spent a ridiculous amount but divided out over 5+ years it's not any more than a vacation.

I respect your opinion too... and please don't take offense to my comments. I totally get where you are coming from.

For me it just boiled down to the fact I'm an eye candy guy and game in 4K Ultra. The 3090 does it... the 4090 does it a whole lot better. If I were a 1080p gamer I'd have went a different route.

I do believe the miners are a big part of the reason we've seen prices go up since the $699 1080 Ti. That and the fact Nvidia has no competitors.

 

[punkncat]

It's because I'm 48... single... have a good job and don't have any kids or ex-wives. 🤣 You're not wrong though... I spent a ridiculous amount but divided out over 5+ years it's not any more than a vacation.

I respect your opinion too... and please don't take offense to my comments. I totally get where you are coming from.

For me it just boiled down to the fact I'm an eye candy guy and game in 4K Ultra. The 3090 does it... the 4090 does it a whole lot better. If I were a 1080p gamer I'd have went a different route.

I do believe the miners are a big part of the reason we've seen prices go up since the $699 1080 Ti. That and the fact Nvidia has no competitors.

Ah man, no judgement at all, perhaps a tinge of jealousy.... 😀

I was playing at 1080/60 for a long time and the GTX 1080 is such a good contender in that arena that I hadn't found a need or desire to upgrade. I picked up a 1440/144 monitor and through a slight stroke of luck, a new 4K TV, but which has a 1080/120 game option. The PC monitor upgrade immediately showed that the GTX 1080 wasn't going to be fast enough. I play single player campaign type stuff, so really 60 isn't so much a problem so long as it can maintain over it to eliminate stutter. I like when that happens on highest settings, and even at 1440 the 3070 is up to the task. The 1080 is on the TV for now and I am having a lean towards stepping the 3070 into it's slot while considering a worthy upgrade to the PC.

short version: I would love to be able to just grab a 4090 and the wife not string me up.

kudos

 

[sizzling]

I’d say a cpu upgrade is required. I ran 1440p 144Hz with a 3700X. About a year ago I upgraded to 1440p 240Hz and it was very apparent the 3700X wasn’t up to the job and upgraded to the 5800X3D which was a big improvement.

 

[UnknownG]

Personally if I were in your shoes I'd also look at a CPU upgrade.... (5800x3D for your board?)

I myself built with the 1080 Ti in 2017... skipped the 20 series... went 3090 in 2021 and went 4090 in 2023.

So many people are saying the 4090 is overpriced... but the numbers don't lie.

Compared to the 3090...

Port Royal

FireStrike Ultra

Those aren't typos... 70/80% bump in benchmark scores... and it ain't all because of the processor.



Blame the miners... they had their cake... now they get to eat it. 🤣 🤣 🤣

I'll still continue to stand by my statement... the 4090 is definitely worth it due to the out of this world performance upgrade over previous gen.

What changes would I have to do to fit a 4090 into my build?

 

[UnknownG]

I’d say a cpu upgrade is required. I ran 1440p 144Hz with a 3700X. About a year ago I upgraded to 1440p 240Hz and it was very apparent the 3700X wasn’t up to the job and upgraded to the 5800X3D which was a big improvement

Got it, adding it to the improvement list, aside from that mobo is fine to run with this?

 

[Deleted member 2838871]

What changes would I have to do to fit a 4090 into my build?

What's your max budget?

 

[sizzling]

Got it, adding it to the improvement list, aside from that mobo is fine to run with this?

No problem with that motherboard, it’s what I’m using.