Question Upgrading to AM5 or go X3D?

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Im currently running a first gen Ryzen set up.

I got:

MSi X370 Gaming Plus motherboard.
Ryzen 7 1700 processor.
16 Gb DDR4 memory at 2400mhz.
RX 6600 GPU
And a 620w Seasonic SII PSU.

I damaged my CPU a while back, and even if i managed to unbent the many pins i did, it certainly give it lasting damage, the PC has been very unstable since then so i finally decided that it was about time to upgrade...

But i've only heard nightmare stories about early adoption of AM5, as when i was an early adopter of AM4 and really never had a single issue just up to this year.

The options i have, are to update my board BIOS and get a 5800 X3D, maybe even some faster ram just to cap the 3200mhz my board is able to give, or to go all over the new generation once more and adopt AM5 which is a significant more expensive process, at least in my country currency.

The 5800 X3D cost arround 375 USD (350,000 CLP)
The AM5 platform im aiming is arround 700 USD (670,000 CLP) R5 7600X, Gigabyte B650M-H, Gskill 5600mhz 32gb and a new PSU bequiet at 750w.


Also to note, i play at 75hz and 2560x1080p and i have no intention to go over those FPS, as im addicted to ultrawide and i don't have any relevant upgrade options and i just got this GPU which sits perfectly for this needs... But mine is indeed an old platform already.
 
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Even a 5700X if you want to spend a little less would be a huge improvement. That plus some 3200 MT/s memory sounds like a good plan to me.

RX6600 isn't going to be breaking any FPS records, and if you are locked to 75hz/75FPS, then the CPU matters less.
 
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Some of the games i play are heavy on the CPU demands tho, like Guild Wars 2.

Right now the stuttering i have is horrid on the 1700, even if the 6600 can pump well above my 75hz.
 
My research says that GW2 is not well threaded and relies primarily on one thread.
Here is a post on that:

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I just came across this topic, trying to figure out why my system is running at about 25% CPU and 50% GPU, yet the game does not even reach 60FPS.
To me, this seems to indicate - which the performance graph of task manager supports - the game does not utilize multiple CPU threads.
I have an 8-core and only 1 of 16 threads is running at about 80%. The rest is perfectly idle.
This would also explain why character model limit so drastically impacts the performance.
This is with the DX11 beta function enabled.
My specs:
CPU: Ryzen 7 1700x @ 3.4GHz
GPU: GTX 1080 @ 1.4GHz
RAM: 16GB 3200MHz
Running off an M.2 SSD.
Edited February 26, 2022 by arendo.6954
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To see how well your 1700 cpu runs a single task, run the cpu-Z bench and look at the single thread performance rating.
You should see a score of about 445:
https://valid.x86.fr/bench/b8euxv

The 5800X3D would be a nice upgrade, it scores about 600:
https://valid.x86.fr/bench/blb8ch

To do much better, you are looking at a full platform upgrade.
 
I made an upgrade from R7 1800X to R7 5700X on a MSI X370 Xpower Gaming Titanium some time ago. Massive boost in gaming...! Even if this board is among the top tier boards of its generation, I didn't go for the more powerful cpu's in the 5000-series. It is said that the VRM's can be a bit volnerable, not that much in gaming perhaps, but if you do heavyer operations, like video rendering. The R5 5600X can be an even safer choise, This one only have 6 cores and 65W, but will deliver quite similar performance as the 5700X/5800X in gaming...

There was a realese of a R5 5600X3D last year, but this is only available in US Micro Center stores. You could find one on eBay. In august there will be a realese of the R7 5700X3D..

Anyway, do your rig the honor and extend it's life for some years more. Do an upgrade to make it last. Thats good AMD spirit... :)
 
I doubt that any 300 chipset series MB has BIOS to take full advantage of x3D processors. They also need fast RAM to be fully effective which again 300 series MBs have problems with.
R7 5700x would be most viable option, easy on power and cooling and on those game settings more than enough, your GPU is more of impediment.
 
Consider the cost per frame, you do not need x3d chip for GPU below 4070Ti
It is wiser to save that x3d budget to upgrade your GPU in the future.

I would give the AM4 platform a last upgrade to R5 5600 (or R7 5700x if you have more cash to burn),
it will hold on relatively well for at least next 2 years

And at that time AM5 CPU and MB will be far cheaper than today
 
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What kind of CPU cooler do you have?

Assuming your current PSU is a S12II you should probably be upgrading that no matter what.

The motherboard you're looking at if you go AM5 is a bad choice that you really shouldn't consider. If you're serious about AM5 this would be a good piece to read so you understand what sort of features to look for (or potentially find a decent board listed in your budget): https://www.techspot.com/review/2699-amd-b650-motherboards/
 
I plan to keep using the 1700 AMD stock cooler.

I will upgrade to a 5700X and get 3200mhz memories, also a new PSU for future future upgrade, will give this motherboard a few more years before moving onto something else.

Thank you all.
 
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The Ryzen 7 5700X3D has landed...performes overall almost as good as the 5800X3D in gaming, but come cheaper.

A good cooler is required, but the AM4 and AM5 cooler brackets is the same, with future upgrade in mind.
 
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