USB 2.0 removable disk with NTFS

darkeagle

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Hi,
There is anyone that know how to use NTFS over a USB2.0 removable disk?
I have tried in various mode without result.
The only way to use the external drive in Windows XP is formatting it with
FAT32 file system
Can anyone help me?
I have win xp pro sp1a (windows update updated.)
Thank
 
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darkeagle wrote:
> Hi,
> There is anyone that know how to use NTFS over a USB2.0 removable
> disk?
> I have tried in various mode without result.
> The only way to use the external drive in Windows XP is formatting it
> with FAT32 file system
> Can anyone help me?
> I have win xp pro sp1a (windows update updated.)
> Thank

If this is a flash device, it is not possible AFIK.

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It is entirely possible, but highly not recommended. There is a very
good reason as to why USB Flash drives are left in FAT.

Here are just a couple of reasons before I post how to do this. First
off, if you try using this drive in a computer that does not exist on
the same domain as you, it will not recognize your user SID and you will
have to take ownership of the USB drive. You can bypass this by
allowing full control to all. You can corrupt the drive easily. One
way is by going into suspend mode with the drive in, remove it, write
data to it on a different computer, then put it back in and wake the
computer. All your data is corrupted. It fails to clear the lazy
writes. The other way is even worse. If you simply pull out the USB
storage device before it has finished flushing the I/O buffers.

The only two good reasons to do this would be encryption and compression.

Do this to allow formatting as NTFS:

Click Start-Run-Type devmgmt.msc and click OK. Now find the USB Drive
and click properties for it. Set the policy of the USB Drive to
"Optimize for Performance". The default is to optimize for Quick
Removal, which restricts you to the FAT filesystem. Now you can format
the drive as NTFS in My Computer or Removable Disks in Computer Management.

When you want to remove the drive, you will have to be sure to wait
until the drive has prepared itself to be removed. If you remove it
earlier, it will cause data loss and potential file corruption.

----
Nathan McNulty


Quaoar wrote:
> darkeagle wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>There is anyone that know how to use NTFS over a USB2.0 removable
>>disk?
>>I have tried in various mode without result.
>>The only way to use the external drive in Windows XP is formatting it
>>with FAT32 file system
>>Can anyone help me?
>>I have win xp pro sp1a (windows update updated.)
>>Thank
>
>
> If this is a flash device, it is not possible AFIK.
>
> Q
>
>
 

darkeagle

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Hi,

Click Start-Run-Type devmgmt.msc and click OK. Now find the USB Drive
> and click properties for it. Set the policy of the USB Drive to
> "Optimize for Performance". The default is to optimize for Quick
> Removal, which restricts you to the FAT filesystem. Now you can format
> the drive as NTFS in My Computer or Removable Disks in Computer
Management.

I have do this but I don't see the disk in "Rremovabile Disk Computer
Management".
If I start formatting from my computer, I obtaing an error message like
"Unable to complete the formatting".
Thank you
"Nathan McNulty" <nospam@msn.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:OYW5yAqeEHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> It is entirely possible, but highly not recommended. There is a very
> good reason as to why USB Flash drives are left in FAT.
>
> Here are just a couple of reasons before I post how to do this. First
> off, if you try using this drive in a computer that does not exist on
> the same domain as you, it will not recognize your user SID and you will
> have to take ownership of the USB drive. You can bypass this by
> allowing full control to all. You can corrupt the drive easily. One
> way is by going into suspend mode with the drive in, remove it, write
> data to it on a different computer, then put it back in and wake the
> computer. All your data is corrupted. It fails to clear the lazy
> writes. The other way is even worse. If you simply pull out the USB
> storage device before it has finished flushing the I/O buffers.
>
> The only two good reasons to do this would be encryption and compression.
>
> Do this to allow formatting as NTFS:
>
> Click Start-Run-Type devmgmt.msc and click OK. Now find the USB Drive
> and click properties for it. Set the policy of the USB Drive to
> "Optimize for Performance". The default is to optimize for Quick
> Removal, which restricts you to the FAT filesystem. Now you can format
> the drive as NTFS in My Computer or Removable Disks in Computer
Management.
>
> When you want to remove the drive, you will have to be sure to wait
> until the drive has prepared itself to be removed. If you remove it
> earlier, it will cause data loss and potential file corruption.
>
> ----
> Nathan McNulty
>
>
> Quaoar wrote:
> > darkeagle wrote:
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>There is anyone that know how to use NTFS over a USB2.0 removable
> >>disk?
> >>I have tried in various mode without result.
> >>The only way to use the external drive in Windows XP is formatting it
> >>with FAT32 file system
> >>Can anyone help me?
> >>I have win xp pro sp1a (windows update updated.)
> >>Thank
> >
> >
> > If this is a flash device, it is not possible AFIK.
> >
> > Q
> >
> >
 
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I should have asked. Is this an external USB Hard drive or a USB Flash
(Keychain) Drive? Also, you will probably have to reboot after making
that change and then try formatting NTFS.

----
Nathan McNulty


darkeagle wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Click Start-Run-Type devmgmt.msc and click OK. Now find the USB Drive
>
>>and click properties for it. Set the policy of the USB Drive to
>>"Optimize for Performance". The default is to optimize for Quick
>>Removal, which restricts you to the FAT filesystem. Now you can format
>>the drive as NTFS in My Computer or Removable Disks in Computer
>
> Management.
>
> I have do this but I don't see the disk in "Rremovabile Disk Computer
> Management".
> If I start formatting from my computer, I obtaing an error message like
> "Unable to complete the formatting".
> Thank you
> "Nathan McNulty" <nospam@msn.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
> news:OYW5yAqeEHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>
>>It is entirely possible, but highly not recommended. There is a very
>>good reason as to why USB Flash drives are left in FAT.
>>
>>Here are just a couple of reasons before I post how to do this. First
>>off, if you try using this drive in a computer that does not exist on
>>the same domain as you, it will not recognize your user SID and you will
>>have to take ownership of the USB drive. You can bypass this by
>>allowing full control to all. You can corrupt the drive easily. One
>>way is by going into suspend mode with the drive in, remove it, write
>>data to it on a different computer, then put it back in and wake the
>>computer. All your data is corrupted. It fails to clear the lazy
>>writes. The other way is even worse. If you simply pull out the USB
>>storage device before it has finished flushing the I/O buffers.
>>
>>The only two good reasons to do this would be encryption and compression.
>>
>>Do this to allow formatting as NTFS:
>>
>>Click Start-Run-Type devmgmt.msc and click OK. Now find the USB Drive
>>and click properties for it. Set the policy of the USB Drive to
>>"Optimize for Performance". The default is to optimize for Quick
>>Removal, which restricts you to the FAT filesystem. Now you can format
>>the drive as NTFS in My Computer or Removable Disks in Computer
>
> Management.
>
>>When you want to remove the drive, you will have to be sure to wait
>>until the drive has prepared itself to be removed. If you remove it
>>earlier, it will cause data loss and potential file corruption.
>>
>>----
>>Nathan McNulty
>>
>>
>>Quaoar wrote:
>>
>>>darkeagle wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>There is anyone that know how to use NTFS over a USB2.0 removable
>>>>disk?
>>>>I have tried in various mode without result.
>>>>The only way to use the external drive in Windows XP is formatting it
>>>>with FAT32 file system
>>>>Can anyone help me?
>>>>I have win xp pro sp1a (windows update updated.)
>>>>Thank
>>>
>>>
>>>If this is a flash device, it is not possible AFIK.
>>>
>>>Q
>>>
>>>
>
>
>