Question Userbenchmark GPU 0th percentile and NVME 4th?

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I wanna start off by saying, Yes I know userbenchmark is not the best, but 0th percentile??? could this be a sign of improper installation? I just installed the m.2 a few days ago and the GPU a few hours ago.

Here's a link to the bench:
Userbenchmark Test
Let me know if this is normal
 
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Yep, probably, the only limitation I can see is the motherboard. If you wanna get full use of your components you'd be better off upgrading.
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ju1c3 said:
Will there be any bottlenecks whatsoever with my components?
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Without going to an X570 based board (potentially $$$$$$ though there's some decently priced examples), any quality B550 board will do. They mostly vary in RGB support, VRM quality and general aesthetics. B550 is basically B450 with PCIe 4.0 support anyways.

*Look for boards with BIOS flashback to enable BIOS flashing without a CPU. Even now there are AM4 boards on the shelf which do not support Zen 3 out of box.
 
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CelicaGT said:
Without going to an X570 based board (potentially $$$$$$ though there's some decently priced examples), any quality B550 board will do. They mostly vary in RGB support, VRM quality and general aesthetics. B550 is basically B450 with PCIe 4.0 support anyways.

*Look for boards with BIOS flashback to enable BIOS flashing without a CPU. Even now there are AM4 boards on the shelf which do not support Zen 3 out of box.
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I was looking at your board on amazon and it looks not too bad, We have similar components too. Is this a good board or do you not like it?
 
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CelicaGT said:
Without going to an X570 based board (potentially $$$$$$ though there's some decently priced examples), any quality B550 board will do. They mostly vary in RGB support, VRM quality and general aesthetics. B550 is basically B450 with PCIe 4.0 support anyways.

*Look for boards with BIOS flashback to enable BIOS flashing without a CPU. Even now there are AM4 boards on the shelf which do not support Zen 3 out of box.
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Would you rather go with this board:
ASUS TUF X570 Plus
Or you own if price wasn't a factor?
 
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ju1c3 said:
Would you rather go with this board:
ASUS TUF X570 Plus
Or you own if price wasn't a factor?
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https://gamersnexus.net/guides/3582-amd-chipset-differences-b550-vs-x570-b450-x470-zen-3

It's Steve Burke, so a little wordy but this article outlines the differences between X570 and B550. Basically B550 only supports PCIe 4.0 on the CPU, and PCIe 3.0 on the chipset and the link between the two is PCIe3.0. The X570 has native PCIe 4.0 on the chipset, and the link between the chipset and CPU is PCIe 4.0. What does this mean to you? B550 = 1 PCIe gen 4.0 NVMe slot (linked to CPU) and 1 PCIe gen 3 NVMe slot (Chipset), X570 = 2 PCIe gen 4.0 NVMe (CPU, Chipset respectively) slots. There are other differences of course, but that is what you will notice right off the bat. I encourage you to suffer Steve Burke to learn the rest and decide if it applies to your use case. I decided that for me, it did not. Storage transfer rates have well outpaced the demand, even a SATA 3 SSD will suffice and most people will never even notice the difference, even under the most demanding tasks.
 
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CelicaGT said:
https://gamersnexus.net/guides/3582-amd-chipset-differences-b550-vs-x570-b450-x470-zen-3

It's Steve Burke, so a little wordy but this article outlines the differences between X570 and B550. Basically B550 only supports PCIe 4.0 on the CPU, and PCIe 3.0 on the chipset and the link between the two is PCIe3.0. The X570 has native PCIe 4.0 on the chipset, and the link between the chipset and CPU is PCIe 4.0. What does this mean to you? B550 = 1 PCIe gen 4.0 NVMe slot (linked to CPU) and 1 PCIe gen 3 NVMe slot (Chipset), X570 = 2 PCIe gen 4.0 NVMe (CPU, Chipset respectively) slots. There are other differences of course, but that is what you will notice right off the bat. I encourage you to suffer Steve Burke to learn the rest and decide if it applies to your use case. I decided that for me, it did not. Storage transfer rates have well outpaced the demand, even a SATA 3 SSD will suffice and most people will never even notice the difference, even under the most demanding tasks.
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So the X570 would only benefit me if I wanted two NVMe drives running at PCiE 4.0? If I only use one would the B550 be the choice for me as well or is that not what this is getting at?
 
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ju1c3 said:
So the X570 would only benefit me if I wanted two NVMe drives running at PCiE 4.0? If I only use one would the B550 be the choice for me as well or is that not what this is getting at?
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Yes. My OS drive is under the GPU (PCIe 4.0) and my primary game drive is in the second slot (PCIe 3.0) and everything just RIPS. Outside of benchmark scores there's no discernible difference between the two in real world performance. If you use your PC for heck, I don't know, HEDT stuff like multi hour renders and stuff then maybe X570 is worth it. For us pathetic gamers B550 is more than enough.
 
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Yes. My OS drive is under the GPU (PCIe 4.0) and my primary game drive is in the second slot (PCIe 3.0) and everything just RIPS. Outside of benchmark scores there's no discernible difference between the two in real world performance. If you use your PC for heck, I don't know, HEDT stuff like multi hour renders and stuff then maybe X570 is worth it. For us pathetic gamers B550 is more than enough.
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Indeed.
I have 6x SSDs in my system.
PCIe 4.0
PCIe 3.0
4x SATA III

In daily use, it is hard to tell the difference.
 
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Just gonna put this out there and you may not like it. Your current board is fine. Outside of CrystalDiskMark you WILL NOT see a tangible difference for all the money and effort. Do it if you wish, but myself? I would not. Make sure your BIOS and MoBo drivers are up to date, sit back, and enjoy your system.
 
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CelicaGT said:
Just gonna put this out there and you may not like it. Your current board is fine. Outside of CrystalDiskMark you WILL NOT see a tangible difference for all the money and effort. Do it if you wish, but myself? I would not. Make sure your BIOS and MoBo drivers are up to date, sit back, and enjoy your system.
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Extremely interesting take. I was almost sure I was buying a new board RIGHT now on amazon but to be honest I wasn't really too happy about it. Does this motherboard hold back my GPU as much as my M.2? If not I guess I don't really need to upgrade just this minute.
 
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ju1c3 said:
Extremely interesting take. I was almost sure I was buying a new board RIGHT now on amazon but to be honest I wasn't really too happy about it. Does this motherboard hold back my GPU as much as my M.2? If not I guess I don't really need to upgrade just this minute.
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www.techspot.com

PCIe 4.0 vs. PCIe 3.0 GPU Benchmark

With the launch of the new GeForce 30 series, PCI Express 4.0 performance has come up into the discussion. To find out exactly what we're talking about,...
www.techspot.com www.techspot.com

Like always....it depends.
 
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CelicaGT said:
www.techspot.com

PCIe 4.0 vs. PCIe 3.0 GPU Benchmark

With the launch of the new GeForce 30 series, PCI Express 4.0 performance has come up into the discussion. To find out exactly what we're talking about,...
www.techspot.com www.techspot.com

Like always....it depends.
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Hmm, thank you for all the info, Although I don't need to upgrade, I actually will because in the long run I can't be happy knowing my motherboard is limiting my software. Whether I notice the difference or not, I will eventually have to upgrade and the sooner I do it the sooner I can rest easy. I know it sounds stupid, but I'd rather my computer be fully complete then have it slightly limited and then upgrade in the future.
 
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