Video editing cpu. 3770k or 2600k?

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Hi,

Building a computer for video editing, around $ 1500-2000.

I was going to use i7-2600k but now considering 3770k.

I understand that the performance increase is minor but don't understand some of the features like "integrated usb 3.0". If I had a Sandy Bridge cpu I wouldn't upgrade but not sure what to do with a new build.

Also, 2600k is available and $300, easy (?) to overclock.

3770k is not available Newegg and $350. ($400 Amazon :pfff: ). More difficult to overclock (hotter?)

So my questions are:

1. Would you get the 3770k or 2600k?

2. Will I be able to overclock the 3770k significantly, air cooled in a quiet case like Antec p280?

3. Would you consider the 3770 and not overclock?

Thanks.
 
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i'd go with newer technology, 3770k even it has 100mhz more frequency, better integrated graphics but as you mention that for editing so external GPU must be necessary for that stuff, heat? Heat will not be an issue when you've a decent coolersomething like corsair h100 (www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181017) so you can squeeze it alot to get more "GHz" i'm providing a link see yourself how well 3770k perform against 2600k.
Ok here it is:
www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/551?vs=287

another important thing is GRAPHICS CARD in that budget get a single gtx 680 which i think 2nd most fastest card.
The only editing programs I see using it now is Corel Digital Studio and Cyberlink Powerdirector.

I am kind of thinking you may be fine with i7 3770K for these two applications, unless you think you would go for intensive ones in the future...please check out if they are multi-threaded....

 
Kind of thinking I'm going to go with the 3770k. The 3930k looks really nice though. I'm already spending a little more than I wanted.

Does this look decent to you? Not sure about the video card though. Not in stock anyway.



PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($349.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($187.27 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($187.27 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec P280 ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 850W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($190.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($24.97 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-206DBKS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ( @ )
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (64-bit) ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2215.41
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-05-19 14:22 EDT-0400)
 
Nice build....

Personally, I would probably pick these components instead

Asus SABERTOOTH Z77 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $239.99
Corsair Obsidian Series 800D ATX Full Tower $239.99
EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card $519.99
 
Thanks a ton for the help.

I haven't gotten the video card yet.

That mb, 800D and video card look pretty nice although I kind of have to draw the line somewhere. It's easy to get paralyzed by all of the options/decisions (for me anyway).
 
One thing to keep in mind, with 3770K you are limited to 32GB. With 3930K you can have 64GB or more, which may be important for high-end video editing.

Thanks. I think if I were going to be using professional level software I would probably go that route. Right now I'm going to try to stick with more "prosumer" level software and try to keep it a little more simple.

Thanks for the suggestion.
 
I am in the same boat; I am waivering between 3770 and 3770K. OC involves some expense: the chip is more expensive, the board is more expensive and you have to buy a cooler and a better PSU. If willing to do that, why not just get a better chip?

On the other hand 3770K POSSIBLY gives a more future-proof system because you can always decide to OC down the road instead of upgrading (assuming RAM doesn't have to be upgraded; I am not sure about that).
 



But the 3930k is quite a bit more expensive as is the mb for the 3930k too. When I was trying to decide I think I calculated it as about $350 more. I'm sure either way will be ok.

I briefly thought about the 3770 but never really thought about a different mb for 3770 vs. 3770k. I don't know what the difference is.

I ended up getting a cheaper cpu cooler too, coolermaster evo or something.
 
I honestly think, unless it is heavy video editing/rendering, you would be fine with i7 3770K (unlocked CPU). Evo is a good cooler but some of the betterones are Noctua NH-D14 ($90), Corsair H100 ($105), CM H612 ($50). If you just bought, probably you may swap it for a better cooler. BTW, there is hardly any cooling difference between Noctua and CM H612 (a degree difference probably).
 
I have a another question if you don't mind.

I changed my RAM choice from above and ended up going with what xtreme5 originally recommended, but 32 GB. This:


G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL10Q-32GBXL

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231490


Is this going to be ok?

The motherboard, P8Z77-V PRO, supports up to 32GB. The problem is I can't find it on the Qualified Vendor List:

http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1155/P8Z77-V_PRO/P8Z77-V-PRO-memory-QVL.pdf

I've read differing opinions re. QVL. From "you should really pick something from the QVL to prevent problems down the road" to "don't worry about it, the QVL is just whatever they got around to testing". :??: Although I think that dude did say just pick a good manufacturer and a 9-9-9-24 kit. The RAM listed above is 10-10-10-30

I can't find any 32GB kits supported on the QVL and can't find the G.SKILL flavor of RAM listed above in a smaller kit. I'd rather not change it if you think it's ok but If you don't think it will work I'd rather change it now.

Do you have an opinion? Thanks.

 
A manufacturer may only test a set a RAM as they are so many of them. Finding a RAM mentioned in the QVL is ideal but you are restricted for choices. I would nevertheless be careful about the timing and would choose a 9-9-9-24 kit.

How about this?

CORSAIR Vengeance 32GB (8 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ32GX3M8X1600C9

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233263

You may not find it on the QVL list but it is a 9-9-9-24.
 
Thanks.

That kit looks like a 8 X 4GB kit though. Also those heat spreaders seem huge. I can't find dimensions but do you think I can run into trouble w clearance?

If I search Newegg for RAM using, 4 X8GB, 1.5v, 1600, latency 9 I don't get much. One G.SKILL kit below or Geil which I'm not familiar with.


G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9Q-32GXM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231569&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&PageSize=100&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo


I get more options if I decrease to 1333.

Any suggestions?
 
I am unable to find why that's listed like that....

check this out....
https://pcpartpicker.com/parts/memory/#m=11&s=301600&z=32768

They are latency timing. The latency/speed ratio gives you the lag time in retrieving that first byte of data. In real world performance, you may see only a small difference in performance.

Probably not worth worrying about it. The choice is taking Corsair or G.SKills or something else that has a 9-9-9-24 or check out other Z77 motherboards (MSI Z77-GD65) or Asus sabertooth.

My question: why do you worry about 9-9-9-24. The mobo spec does not say you need 9-9-9-24. Check this link. Scroll to the bottom, where you find RAM recommendations. They have different latencies.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131819
 
[My question: why do you worry about 9-9-9-24. The mobo spec does not say you need 9-9-9-24. Check this link. Scroll to the bottom, where you find RAM recommendations. They have different latencies./quote]

Ha. Are you asking me or is that a hypothetical question?

I wasn't really worried about 9-9-9-24 and that is why I initially ordered this:


#1
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL10Q-32GBXL

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231490



I thought you expressed concern about the 10-10-10-30 so then I ordered this:


#2
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9Q-32GXM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231569



I think the second kit is better and it is listed as dual channel rather than quad channel like the first kit listed above. My motherboard, P8Z77-V PRO, lists Dual Channel Memory Architecture.

(Don't know if you saw my post above where the kit you recommended I think was 8 x 4GB.)

I think kit #2 listed above is the better choice. Do you think it is ok?

Thanks again.