Wait to buy windows 10 for new build or buy windows 7 key code and up grade to windows 10 for free?

[nagman34]

I am planing on buying and building a new pc here in the next few months, I'm doing my research and have an idea of what i want i just have to wait and see what is on sale when i actually go to buy the parts. my main question to you guys is should i wait and buy windows 10 when it comes out or iv read a few things that if you have windows 7 or 8.1 they will upgrade it to windows 10 for free. i can find a windows 7 key online for about $40. What should i do?

thank you all in advance.

 

[USAFRet]

I am not sure the upgrade to ten will be 'free' after the first 12 months.

For 1 year after release, anyone with Windows 7, 8, or 8.1 will be able to upgrade to Windows 10 for free.
It will NOT automagically disable itself after one year. It will, according to current statements, work forever.
After that one year...if you want Windows 10, you must purchase it.

 

[USAFRet]

I am planing on buying and building a new pc here in the next few months, I'm doing my research and have an idea of what i want i just have to wait and see what is on sale when i actually go to buy the parts. my main question to you guys is should i wait and buy windows 10 when it comes out or iv read a few things that if you have windows 7 or 8.1 they will upgrade it to windows 10 for free. i can find a windows 7 key online for about $40. What should i do?

thank you all in advance.

Do not buy "a windows 7 key online for about $40". That is NOT a valid OS license. At all.
It costs what it costs...around $100.
If you see it significantly cheaper, it is NOT legit.

A legit Windows 7, 8, or 8.1 install will be able to be upgraded to Windows 10 within the first year. After that, you have to actually buy it.

 

[USAFRet]

I am not sure the upgrade to ten will be 'free' after the first 12 months.
Microsoft would lose a packet to all the reclaimed 7 c.o.a.'s for sale on line otherwise.
If you can put up with a ' beta' vs of ten you could organise the trial for nothing I am sure.
Otherwise, as windows 10 is going to be free for a year to 7 users,I would buy 7 for $40, upgrade to ten in june (free for a year) and take the best offer they give towards June 1016.

On multiple levels, that's not the way it will work.

 

[USAFRet]

Ah! A one year 'OFFER' to upgrade then,not a one year upgrade.
Thanks for clearing that up and I hope it doesnt change.

You have one year to do it, given you have a valid Win 7/8/8.1 OS.
It does not die after a year.

 

[USAFRet]

"By the way"...those aren't legit sales.

 

[USAFRet]

You get no arguments from me there.
1 or 2 % of buyers end up with nothing because the 'ebay' er had an account suspended and did not supply a replacement c.o.a. for a fail.
To ignore, deny or simply decide to not talk about what has been going on in the marketplace regarding these activities has resulted in a forum whereby ;Kids and visitors never understand what the heck is going on when you say 100 bucks for 7 and a guy on ebay says $40.
This forum will (remain) to appear out of touch and un informed (on this matter) whilst they are not made aware of the risks.
I feel its time this was addressed.

Not sure what you're trying to say here.
We (or at least *I*) don't 'ignore'....but rather inform a potential buyer of the possible/probable fail modes of buying licensed software from alternate channels.

 

[USAFRet]

I agree with this sites policy on copyright infringement,but the rules regarding discussion of the subject are now affecting the site so adversely I think it should be addressed.
Thats what I am saying.

What specifically? PM me, if you wish.

 

[thegummy]

I dont need to pm you. This thread is typical. A guy says windows costs $40.
You say it costs 100. (incidentally in a buyers eyes you now look + 150 % out of range whilst being an expert. )
In fact, you say; 'Its not a valid windows license.At all.'
It may not be valid in some small print somewhere; but 98% of the time it will work until it is unsupported along with every other 7 install,and it only does not work when some seller on ebay cocks it up. These keys are lifted from old boxes, not generated using an algorithm.
I feel the rules regarding discussion of these subjects are creating a disparity between this forum and whats going on out there and it is only right to bring it to peoples attention.
The disparity that is.
Unfortunately Kids would just Laugh at me if I tell them windows(7) costs £80.
They get full updates and support for the sums mentioned.
Its only the ammatures in Pakistan who run pirate software without updates now.
If this subject remains the elephant in the room the disparity will stay too.

Pirate copies work 100% of the time and cost zero dollars. They're also not valid Windows licenses at all. The ones being sold on eBay aren't any more valid than a pirate copy.

People buying these are giving 40 bucks to some con artist for something that is no different to a pirate copy they could have got for free.

If you want Windows, pay the standard price - nowhere has a proper license for significantly less.

 

[USAFRet]

In any case, a $40 Windows OS is no more 'legit' than a $40 new, current gen, i5 CPU is.

These type of 'sales' are:
1. Academic, TechNet, or MSDN licenses. Which the seller is not authorized to sell.
2. Bought, in bulk, with stolen credit cards.

The OS costs what it costs. After the release of Win 8, MS no longer authorizes resellers to sell 'just a key' for Windows 7. Period.
Anywhere you see only the key for sale, it is not a legit purchase. And can become deactivated at any time.
Anywhere you see Windows 7 or 8 significantly cheaper than the major resellers (Aamazon, Newegg, TigerDirect), it is not legit.

 

[thegummy]

Except of course, pirate copies crash and crunch every five minutes and have chronic compatibility issues that make the machine barely useable. It is not even comparable so no,it is way different to something they could have got for free.

I'm not sure why you're so keen to promote these cheap illegal copies of Windows.

People might feel that because they're giving money to someone that it's less illegal than downloading a pirate copy when it is exactly the same (i.e. completely illegal).

It is no less prone to crashing or compatibility issues either.

Just spend the extra money and buy a proper copy of Windows. You're getting a free upgrade to the brand new version when it's released and, apparently, they are going to continue to update 10 rather than release new versions so you're getting a high quality OS for a very long time. It's not exactly a bad deal.

 

[thegummy]

Whether or not to buy a proper copy of Windows 7 or 8 now or wait til 10 is released is a different matter, though.

Will Windows 10's retail price be cheaper because of the free upgrade being given to people? Will it be more expensive than Windows 8 currently is? I'd imagine that if it is more expensive then retailers will also up the price of their Windows 8.

It's all a gamble now really. I'm planning on building a new PC for my brother when Windows 10 comes out and am undecided whether to get 8 now or take the gamble on 10 being cheaper.

 

[USAFRet]

Whether or not to buy a proper copy of Windows 7 or 8 now or wait til 10 is released is a different matter, though.

Will Windows 10's retail price be cheaper because of the free upgrade being given to people? Will it be more expensive than Windows 8 currently is? I'd imagine that if it is more expensive then retailers will also up the price of their Windows 8.

It's all a gamble now really. I'm planning on building a new PC for my brother when Windows 10 comes out and am undecided whether to get 8 now or take the gamble on 10 being cheaper.

I can't see it being more than a $10 or $15 difference either way.

 

[ReVolts]

Guys, I have same question, but I have one doubt to which I cannot find answer.

Case scenario: I buy windows 8.1 now. After Win 10 comes out, I upgrade to it. For free. Nice.

Now - 1 year after, win 10 upgrade is not free, yes? Then question - if after a year I will need clean install due my windows is trashed/infected/broken and whatever could happen to them - what then? I wipe out my windows, and only CD I have is win 8.1. I install them and want to do upgrade... BUT - its year after release - so its paid.

Only way out I see is to do full system backup on day 1 of installation, but I like clean wipe out instead of backup recovery, cause recovery usually doesn't resolves "deep" issues within windows.

What do you think?

 

[ReVolts]

One more question - why you say that windows on ebay all are not legit? For example, if its retail version box, with original CD's and box and code, why I cannot buy it and you say it is not legal? Retail version is used for one PC in one time, but you can use on multiple PC's, only not in same time. So you can resale it.

 

[USAFRet]

Guys, I have same question, but I have one doubt to which I cannot find answer.

Case scenario: I buy windows 8.1 now. After Win 10 comes out, I upgrade to it. For free. Nice.

Now - 1 year after, win 10 upgrade is not free, yes? Then question - if after a year I will need clean install due my windows is trashed/infected/broken and whatever could happen to them - what then? I wipe out my windows, and only CD I have is win 8.1. I install them and want to do upgrade... BUT - its year after release - so its paid.

Only way out I see is to do full system backup on day 1 of installation, but I like clean wipe out instead of backup recovery, cause recovery usually doesn't resolves "deep" issues within windows.

What do you think?

You will be able to create your own installation DVD. Reinstall whenever you need.

 

[thegummy]

When you do the free upgrade you'll be given a Windows 10 serial - that's the important part. You'll be able to download the install disc as an iso any time. Or you could just keep the first one you use.

Re: eBay, we're not talking about some guy selling his own copy of Windows that he no longer wants; there are people who illegally sell loads of serial numbers on eBay for reduced prices via various illegal means. As has been pointed out, if there's much of a price difference from the standard then it's almost definitely as illegitimate as a pirate copy

 

[Pooneil]

serial numbers on eBay for reduced prices via various illegal means.

I feel the need to point out that unlicensed is not the same as illegal. Just because MS doesn't like it doesn't make it against the law.

 

[USAFRet]

serial numbers on eBay for reduced prices via various illegal means.

I feel the need to point out that unlicensed is not the same as illegal. Just because MS doesn't like it doesn't make it against the law.

Semantics:
Remove 'illegal', add 'Copyright infringement'.

 

[Pooneil]

Nor is MS the last word on what is "Copyright infringement." What actually constitutes infringement is very much in question and content producers do not have the only word.

 

[USAFRet]

Nor is MS the last word on what is "Copyright infringement." What actually constitutes infringement is very much in question and content producers do not have the only word.

Possibly in question, but unless the copyright laws have actually changed...whatever the license is that you agreed to when using the software is it.