[SOLVED] Waiting to build or buying prebuilt

[Hieronymus_Bosch]

Hi there, first time posting. I could use some advice upgrading from a gtx 970 build from years ago. I would like to build it myself but I am not confident I can get a 3080 (i've been trying twitter notification bots for about 2 months now). I was looking on cyberpower and the following would be about 3k after tax with a 5-6 week wait time. I am way out of the loop and wanted to see if the specs are decent and if it is reasonable at all. Based on part picker it looks like building would be about 400 less. I am planning on using the computer for 4k gaming, vr, autocad and some video editing.

Operating System: Windows 10 Home (64-bit Edition)
Gaming Chassis: LIAN LI PC-O11 Dynamic ATX Mid-Tower Dual chamber Gaming Case w/ USB 3.1 Type-C, Tempered glass on the front & side (Black Color)
Extra Case Fans: 6X 120mm Phanteks SK120 PWM FAN - high airflow nine-blade 500-1500 RPM Radiator Fans Black
CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 9 5900X 3.7GHz [4.8GHz Turbo] 12 Cores/ 24 Threads 70MB Total Cache 105W
ProcessorCPU / Processor Cooling Fan: DEEPCOOL Castle 360EX ARGB 360mm AIO Liquid CPU Cooling System w/ Copper Cold Plate (3 x Standard 120MM Fans)
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI ATX w/ WiFi 6, RGB, Intel LAN, 2 PCIe x16, 2 PCIe x1, 6 SATA3, 2 M.2 SATA/PCIe
RAM / System Memory: 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4/3000MHz Dual Channel Memory (Crucial Ballistix Sport)
Video Card: GeForce RTX™ 3080 10GB GDDR6X (Ampere) [VR Ready] (Single Card)
Power Supply: 850 Watts - GIGABYTE GP-P850GM 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active Power Supply
Primary Hard Drive: 1TB WD Blue SN550 M.2 NVME SSD + Seagate 2TB SATA III Hard Drive Combo (Combo Drive)

 

[Eximo]

Memory speed is low for Ryzen, you want 3600Mhz.

WD Blue NVMe SSD isn't exactly the best SSD out there.

That is one fairly good way to get an RTX3080 and 5900X though.

Hard to say how good the price is with the unavailability of the two main components, basically whatever you are willing to pay scalpers on ebay.

 

[Hieronymus_Bosch]

Memory speed is low for Ryzen, you want 3600Mhz.

WD Blue NVMe SSD isn't exactly the best SSD out there.

That is one fairly good way to get an RTX3080 and 5900X though.

Hard to say how good the price is with the unavailability of the two main components, basically whatever you are willing to pay scalpers on ebay.

Thanks for the reply, I will up the memory to 3600 and switch out the ssd. My primary concern after doing more research is that the motherboard is reported to have temperature management issues. So I am looking at other options, though I would like one with a usb c.

 

[Eximo]

Hmm, heatsinks on the VRMs, a fairly large fan on the chipset (which is good, the tiny ones make a lot more high pitched noise) You aren't going full blast with a 5950x, so it should still have some wiggle room. Are you planning on overclocking? Not super necessary with Ryzen, slapping a big cooler on it like you have will let the boost basically overclock itself.

 

[Hieronymus_Bosch]

Hmm, heatsinks on the VRMs, a fairly large fan on the chipset (which is good, the tiny ones make a lot more high pitched noise) You aren't going full blast with a 5950x, so it should still have some wiggle room. Are you planning on overclocking? Not super necessary with Ryzen, slapping a big cooler on it like you have will let the boost basically overclock itself.

I upped the ram to 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4/3600MHz Dual Channel Memory GSKILL RIPJAWS V. unfortunatly the cyberpowerpc ssd is pretty much limited to wd blue and a few msi.
To be frank I wouldn't even begin to know how to overclock, my build is 7 years old at this point so i'm sure I will be blown away with the standard speed. So maybe the card will work. I was considering the ASUS TUF X570-PLUS GAMING or the GIGABYTE X570 AORUS ELITE as alternatives.

 

[Eximo]

Partial to Gigabyte myself the last few purchases. Though I think you would be fine with all three. I like the Gigabyte's separated M.2 heatsink.

Would be nice if someone did a round up of noise from the chipset fans. Though under a light enough load I assume the fan won't spin.

 

[Hieronymus_Bosch]

Partial to Gigabyte myself the last few purchases. Though I think you would be fine with all three. I like the Gigabyte's separated M.2 heatsink.

Would be nice if someone did a round up of noise from the chipset fans. Though under a light enough load I assume the fan won't spin.

I think I will go with the gigabyte x570 aorus elite, it is about 60 bucks cheaper and will fit my needs. Thank you for your advice Eximo

 

[Karadjgne]

Biggest issue with CyberPowerPC, is that once you buy one, you are pretty much required to do a full system check of everything, including the paste on the cpu, wiring, connections, bios settings etc.

You pay extra for the labor costs to build it, only to pretty much pull it apart and rebuild it from scratch yourself. IbuyPower is worse, and Walmarts offerings are put together by a blind man with ADD/ADHD and Palsy. 'Squirrel!'

I'd not have an issue with prebuilts if they were actually 'built', places like Falcon Northwest and others like them may not have the lowest prices, but they have no issues with the 'fine tooth comb' theory in QC.

View: https://youtu.be/rRlCtp_q1YM

If that doesn't cement the decision to DIY, there's multiple other such Steve has done, including NZXT, Walmart, ibuypower etc.

 

[Eximo]

I gainsay no one for buying pre-builts at this time. Premiums, yes. Bloatware, maybe, but they have access to hardware that no one else does.

Always check over your new hardware purchases. I even test my laptops when I get them, just to make sure they did okay on the thermal paste.

Saw a pretty good video the other day about a Dell XPS. 12VO, single channel memory, smallish chassis, but gosh darn it if it didn't have a decently cooled reference/OEM RTX3070 in it.