Want a Penryn processor crack open an apple!

[skittle]

^thats exactly what steve wants you to believe...

http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html
300+ New Features!

It would be better to call it something like: "290 cosmetic changes, and 10+ new features that are useless to most users!"

For example... time machine... a lame rip off of volume shadow copy... fine fine its a good feature to have... except for the fact that you NEED a physical separate harddrive for it to work. Hell even bootcamp isnt free.

 

[macgirlfriend]

Ouch I never saw that..... I know the one downside to the OEM Vista is its just the one version unlike the retail that includes all the versions and you only pay the difference to upgrad from say Premium to Ultimate.

Mac only come in one version

 

[Harry-Plopper]

Sorry. My computer dyslexia has been kicking in a lot recently. I miss words or read the backwards...it gets annoying. But you are right. Only problem is that not every older MAC will support OSX. It does take some of the newer hardware. But still the OEM versions should count as they are plentyfull and easily accessable from a online retailer.

Either way MACS are overrated. They are just PCs now that have hardware that can specifically run OSX and thats it.

I totally disagree with the Macs are over rated bit...

1.. When have you ever, ever seen a PC look like anything Macs have done....

2.. Have you designed something on a Mac against a PC, then ripped it out to print... Macs are with out adoubt the best piece of kit for Photoshop, Desktop Publishing and image rendering than any pc.. Its built for it...

All high end graphics are done on a mac in games... I know the guy that did Hogwarts Castle in the last harry potter game... It was designed on a mac then transfered to a pc.. the pc would have taken 3 times as long to do due to its old architecture background it has to keep with..

3.. Less Viruses than any pc platform

4 Take up much less space..

5.Office on the mac is just that much better

6 It aint got Vista... Bonus

7. The keyboards are just the muts nuts...

8. They had had soft power on before any pc ever did

9.. Earlier ones even ejected floppy disk..

10. The screens are to die for..

11. Less twits us macs than PC's and girls usiing them seem to be rich totty..

 

[LukeBird]

For example... time machine... a lame rip off of volume shadow copy... fine fine its a good feature to have... except for the fact that you NEED a physical separate harddrive for it to work. Hell even bootcamp isnt free.

Time Machine is an excellent integration of back-ups into an OS. Is there anything in XP or Vista that is even remotely like it?
It's simple to use, incredibly easy to back-up from (I have done), very simple GUI and gorgeous graphics ( :lol: That's important to me.... :lol. It's an ace bit of kit, but I don't like the fact that you can't do wireless back-ups unless you buy Apple's Time Capsule, which is a real kicker for me....

 

[LukeBird]

Mac only come in one version

Nope.
How do you run an OS X server... oh yeah!!! OS X SERVER
Then there is a multi-user licence.

 

[Grimmy]

Mac's are over rated. They won't run without that special hardware that tells the software, Pssst.. its okay, this sucker paid enough, you can install the OSX.

Mac wants you to think different when it isn't different.

You have to pay extra for a floppy drive.

If Mac software wasn't so pricey... I'd be using it.

 

[skittle]

quick notes to the above post!

1. Likewise, when have you ever seen a mac do what a custom PC has done?
2. what are you stuck in 1997? This is a myth that has long been thrown out.
3. ... are you that dense? PC platform? OSX is a PC platform... I think you meant to say windows... which is technically correct... but it sure isnt because its so much more secure.
4. what?
5. what? office is better? office for windows and office for mac are the same damn thing.
6. but it has OSX *yuck*
7. I can use any keyboard I want
9. You do realize that apple rips everything off from the open source community right?
10. The screens have had so many issues that no series graphic designer would ever consider using one.

 

[jimmysmitty]

^thats exactly what steve wants you to believe...

http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html
300+ New Features!

It would be better to call it something like: "290 cosmetic changes, and 10+ new features that are useless to most users!"

For example... time machine... a lame rip off of volume shadow copy... fine fine its a good feature to have... except for the fact that you NEED a physical separate harddrive for it to work. Hell even bootcamp isnt free.

What is this? You say that Apple copied Windows? No way...Apple so had this before and Windows copied it even though Windows had it a long time ago..........

 

[LukeBird]

Nice Apple-bashing there, I'm really impressed at how mature you lot can be...

 

[skittle]

Time Machine is an excellent integration of back-ups into an OS. Is there anything in XP or Vista that is even remotely like it?

Yes, volume shadow copy. It has been around for A VERY LONG TIME, and it doesnt require a separate hard drive... making Volume shadow copy much more useful for the general population

PS. Im not necesarily bashing apple, Im bashing apples PR campaign and the religious following they have created.

 

[LukeBird]

Yes, volume shadow copy. It has been around for A VERY LONG TIME, and it doesnt require a separate hard drive... making Volume shadow copy much more useful for the general population

I'd never even heard of it...
Let alone know how to set it up...

 

[Grimmy]

BTW is a DRM chip thing

Oh...

Dollar
Ransom
Met

. o O (same thing, I just made it more colorful)

 

[skittle]

I'd never even heard of it...
Let alone know how to set it up...

its been around in a usable form since server 2003. Its enabled by default on vista: Windows Vista's backup utility, System Restore and the Previous Versions feature.

I give credit to apple for making a fancy gui for this... although I think vistas table listing is A LOT more intuitive and buisness oriented than apples implementation.

 

[macgirlfriend]

Hey you guys against Apple go watch some mac ads and come back. Then you'll see why Macs are better than PCs

 

[skittle]

Hey you guys against Apple go watch some mac ads and come back. Then you'll see why Macs are better than PCs

No then I suddenly remember how much I loathe justin long... and the stereotypical "mac user"

 

[mi1ez]

Hey you guys against Apple go watch some mac ads and come back. Then you'll see why Macs are better than PCs

Again with the adverts!

This is a hardware website, I doubt anyone on here will have their opinions changed by the marketing department!

 

[macgirlfriend]

Macintosh for life

 

[skittle]

^It sure changed my mind! although I think it had the opposite effect of what they were aiming for...

 

[Grimmy]

Hey.. why don't you go to a Mac forum. And talk about how different your Apple is to another Apple.

 

[macgirlfriend]

Again with the adverts!

This is a hardware website, I doubt anyone on here will have their opinions changed by the marketing department!

Hey, could you do any better?

 

[skittle]

Macintosh for life

Why did you join this forum again? I thought macs "just work"

 

[Harry-Plopper]

quick notes to the above post!

1. Likewise, when have you ever seen a mac do what a custom PC has done?
2. what are you stuck in 1997? This is a myth that has long been thrown out.
3. ... are you that dense? PC platform? OSX is a PC platform... I think you meant to say windows... which is technically correct... but it sure isnt because its so much more secure.
4. what?
5. what? office is better? office for windows and office for mac are the same damn thing.
6. but it has OSX *yuck*
7. I can use any keyboard I want
9. You do realize that apple rips everything off from the open source community right?
10. The screens have had so many issues that no series graphic designer would ever consider using one.

1 All pcs are just boxes
2 I have used macs in the print industry and pcs just dont do it...
3 OSX is a modified linux platform... which is when patched very secure and has not spyware. Vista the latest os is poop
4 Have u seen the new macs.. I guess not
5 Mac Office is better than Windows it has features that pc just dont have.
6 Believe me Windows Vista is shat... Compared to anything else and before it..
7. Yes but mac keyboards are Just Class and fit with the rest of the kit.
9.. I wasnt talking about apple, i was on about Adobe Creative Suite and Quark..
10 I was talking about the 30 inch monster..


Ok now pcs

1.. Great if you want to spend you life upgrading it more than using it...
2.. Costs loads to get anything decent looking and working well.
3.. Great for games in between building and upgrading hardware
4.. 3D graphics are just out of this world in games...
5.. Excellent for Database work, General Office work, accounts, small photo work and web stuff..
6.. Various customization components...
7.. Generally faster than macs in normall use
8.. Industry standard software which is generally backward compatible
9.. Millions of software for it.
10. Great comminuties with loads of help from pc enthusiasts like this forum

 

[Grimmy]

1 All pcs are just boxes
2 I have used macs in the print industry and pcs just dont do it...
3 OSX is a modified linux platform... which is when patched very secure and has not spyware. Vista the latest os is poop
4 Have u seen the new macs.. I guess not
5 Mac Office is better than Windows it has features that pc just dont have.
6 Believe me Windows Vista is shat... Compared to anything else and before it..
7. Yes but mac keyboards are Just Class and fit with the rest of the kit.
9.. I wasnt talking about apple, i was on about Adobe Creative Suite and Quark..
10 I was talking about the 30 inch monster..

1. The why the hell did Mac switch to intel?
2. So you don't have your own, why not?
3. I use linux and its free.
4. Don't really care to, the last I saw a Mini Mac which I considered, but after seeing the $500 price tag I said no way.
5. I use Open Office, it's FREE.
6. It's prolly shat because you don't know how to use it.
7. Keyboard with an apple logo just makes it more expensive.
8. Oh wait you didn't list 8.
9. I guess I have no comment on this or # 10.

 

[jimmysmitty]

quick notes to the above post!

1. Likewise, when have you ever seen a mac do what a custom PC has done?
2. what are you stuck in 1997? This is a myth that has long been thrown out.
3. ... are you that dense? PC platform? OSX is a PC platform... I think you meant to say windows... which is technically correct... but it sure isnt because its so much more secure.
4. what?
5. what? office is better? office for windows and office for mac are the same damn thing.
6. but it has OSX *yuck*
7. I can use any keyboard I want
9. You do realize that apple rips everything off from the open source community right?
10. The screens have had so many issues that no series graphic designer would ever consider using one.

Add to this the custom PC cases. Like the HL2 one that guy made. Looked awesome. Heck one guy made his PC case into a TF2 Engie Sentry. Don't know how you can beat that.

 

[mitch074]

Wow! Fantastic!

...

Going back to my Linux desktops.