We hear about the heat, wheres the tornadoes?

[JAYDEEJOHN]

Introducing CO2 is a constant if anything, and to me, thats more troubling seeing as we havnt had such before, or, we have, and its not counted.

 

[johnsonma]

How can CO2 emissions be a constant when the amount varies?

 

[johnsonma]

Man made CO2 emissions are being reduced all the time. The problem is, compared to what the Earth naturally emits, what man contributes is insignificant.

The vast vast majority of warming greenhouse gases is water vapor from the oceans and seas, not CO2.

Imagine adding 5% of water to an already full glass, what happens?

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

I think a more approproate answer would be, arguing over the tiny amounts of variations we make are rather insignificantBut they are a constant in terms of the weather and the ever changing earth, compatively

 

[johnsonma]

I think a more approproate answer would be, arguing over the tiny amounts of variations we make are rather insignificantBut they are a constant in terms of the weather and the ever changing earth, compatively

The earth can only absorb so much, when we get to that point of imbalance(which pretty much every study indicates we have), the small amounts become increasingly important.

 

[johnsonma]

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/07/science/earth/extreme-heat-is-covering-more-of-the-earth-a-study-says.html?_r=1&ref=science

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

My point is, this is, if anything, a constant, variations aside, and it does give them something to measure.
But, having variables at all levels beyond this, our current small amount of understanding them and their potentials and effects, its still a shot in the dark.

 

[johnsonma]

I understand what you are saying JDJ, but I refuse to accept our ignorance as an excuse to keep going like nothing will happen.

 

[JAYDEEJOHN]

While it would be stupid not to pay attention on this, they need to be right early on, and not having explanations on droughts, the loss of more powerful storms in numbers etc shows they still dont have a handle on it, and their projections and predictions are varying, and making sweeping statements cant work.
The good and the bad point is the constant weve introduced into our atmosphere, something to somewhat reliably measure, its effects etc, but going from there to making claims and not completely having all scenarios covered tells me theyve either underestimated, overestimated or are far from any decent understanding of our situation.
This means to me at least, what theyre doing is important, and they need to continue, but they are far from having a handle on it, and doing too much at this point could have its own diverse effects, all not positive, except for those we know, regarding the economy.
Ive talked about lake Powell before, where first its artificialto begin with, second, it has a great fishery there, again because its artificial,
The farmers upstream were using certain fertilizers that ran off into the lake, creating algae.
The government demanded they cut back immediately on their usage, using alternatives etc, so the algae wouldnt muddy the waters.
What happened next was, the fish died, as the natural food chain was ended and or severly affected.
Theyve since come to their senses, but as nature adapts, abrupt changes in either direction can cause undesirable effects