Question what 4090 brand has the best PCB that won't crack? is there any rating for 4090 PCBs?

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Hi, I want to know. Which brand of the RTX 4090 has the best PCB that won't crack?
Is there any rating for RTX 4090 PCBs?
can I use Thermaltake Smart Pro RGB 850W Bronze for 4090 until I upgrade the PSU in the future?
I know my system is weak, but I can't upgrade it all at once.
My system right now: I5-11400f, ASUS Prime B560-MA, 16 GB 2400 MHz, LG 24MK430 (1080P).
 
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I doubt there is much difference. Most boards are made to nvidia specs most the differences are related to the cooling and maybe metal back plate. I guess there could be something but it is highly unlikely any review site is going to spend the money to buy a bunch of 4090 and then test how much it takes to destroy them.

Key is going to be either mount the card vertically or be sure to use the anti sag brackets that either come with the card or the case.

I really can't see how a video card is magically going to break sitting on your desk. I would bet most the cracked cards you see are people who yanked it out the machine without release the clip that holds it into the slot. I guess if the computer fell off the desk the shock could crack a card.

850 is minimum recommended by nvidia for a 4090. This is likely for the more common types of 4090. There are models that you can overclock the card to 600 watts. I forget which ones but almost nobody does that anymore since you get very little extra performance and you increase you chance of melting the power connector. It will likely work fine until you upgrade your cpu/motherboard then you should consider at least 1000 watts.

Note the next best upgrade is going to be your monitor, silly to hook a 4090 to a monitor that is only 1080.
 
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bill001g said:
I doubt there is much difference. Most boards are made to nvidia specs most the differences are related to the cooling and maybe metal back plate. I guess there could be something but it is highly unlikely any review site is going to spend the money to buy a bunch of 4090 and then test how much it takes to destroy them.

Key is going to be either mount the card vertically or be sure to use the anti sag brackets that either come with the card or the case.

I really can't see how a video card is magically going to break sitting on your desk. I would bet most the cracked cards you see are people who yanked it out the machine without release the clip that holds it into the slot. I guess if the computer fell off the desk the shock could crack a card.

850 is minimum recommended by nvidia for a 4090. This is likely for the more common types of 4090. There are models that you can overclock the card to 600 watts. I forget which ones but almost nobody does that anymore since you get very little extra performance and you increase you chance of melting the power connector. It will likely work fine until you upgrade your cpu/motherboard then you should consider at least 1000 watts.

Note the next best upgrade is going to be your monitor, silly to hook a 4090 to a monitor that is only 1080.
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I don't know if you know NorthWestRepair on YouTube, but he stated that none of the 4090s are good, only the extremely expensive MSI. I can buy the Gigabyte OC Gaming, but it seems Gigabyte has a problem with cracking PCBs.
You are right about the PSU, I will upgrade to a 1300w high-quality PSU
about the PCB, there is a rumor that Gygabyt has the worst PCB among other brands for 4090. I don't know how much Is that true?
Don't you think the next upgrade should be the CPU like 11900k?
 
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Note the next best upgrade is going to be your monitor, silly to hook a 4090 to a monitor that is only 1080.
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I know but don't you think at first I should upgrades CPU to 11900K (so I don't need to upgrade motherboard) or should I upgrade both CPU, Motherboard (In that Case I would go with AMD).
 
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Maybe a better question is why you are upgrading anything to begin with.

Except in very strange edge cases almost everyone who buys a 4090 is trying to run games at 4k with high frame rates.
When you run at 4k especially at higher settings you are being limited by the GPU. For many games even your 11400 is good enough because the cpu is still waiting on the 4090 to render frames. In general if the game can run at 4k it will run at 1080 even better. Now if you are trying to do stupid stuff like get 600fps in COD at 1080 then maybe a cpu upgrade would be the next step.

You kinda did this in the reverse. You are hooking a $2000 video card to a $100 monitor. If you were to say buy a completely new motherboard/cpu/memory and spend another $1000 you are now connecting a $3000 system to a $100 output device.

A 4k monitor is actually the cheapest part of the upgrade. Many people buy a 4k monitor on a sale and then upgrade their computer to actually be able to use it.

In the end you are going to have to toss everything you have. A 4090 is massively overpowered for your current setup. You just have to decide what order you upgrade things in.
 
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Maybe a better question is why you are upgrading anything to begin with.

Except in very strange edge cases almost everyone who buys a 4090 is trying to run games at 4k with high frame rates.
When you run at 4k especially at higher settings you are being limited by the GPU. For many games even your 11400 is good enough because the cpu is still waiting on the 4090 to render frames. In general if the game can run at 4k it will run at 1080 even better. Now if you are trying to do stupid stuff like get 600fps in COD at 1080 then maybe a cpu upgrade would be the next step.

You kinda did this in the reverse. You are hooking a $2000 video card to a $100 monitor. If you were to say buy a completely new motherboard/cpu/memory and spend another $1000 you are now connecting a $3000 system to a $100 output device.

A 4k monitor is actually the cheapest part of the upgrade. Many people buy a 4k monitor on a sale and then upgrade their computer to actually be able to use it.

In the end you are going to have to toss everything you have. A 4090 is massively overpowered for your current setup. You just have to decide what order you upgrade things in.
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Here a 50" 4k monitor is equal to high-end CPU+Motherboard+memory
Prime Z790-A+i7-13700kf=49" sx490uq ultra (Iranian brand) or ROG strix XG43uq (this one is 2 time the price of those CPU and motherboard)
 
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I guess if you like that monitor it is not commonly sold in the USA or EU so you find few reviews or specs in english.

Just be aware that is not what is commonly called "4k" it is like mounting 2 1440 monitor side by side. Also some programs/games do not support that resolution.

It is still a major upgrade to your current monitor and is very nice for games, like racing games, that support the wide format.
 
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I guess if you like that monitor it is not commonly sold in the USA or EU so you find few reviews or specs in english.

Just be aware that is not what is commonly called "4k" it is like mounting 2 1440 monitor side by side. Also some programs/games do not support that resolution.

It is still a major upgrade to your current monitor and is very nice for games, like racing games, that support the wide format.
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my point was high-end CPU and motherboard are equal to decent 4k monitor like MSI mag 401 Qr, with knowing that you think upgrade One monitor is better or My motherboard, CPU,ram altogether?
By the way I definitely Will upgrade my monitor in the future, I don't want to buy a 4090 to play at 1080p.
Thank you for your help
 
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