Question What are these temps in HWMonitor and are they too high ?

[PostJC]

Hello, i have been using HWMonitor recently to monitor my prebuilt system as i'm having some performance issues with it, i have noticed 2 temperatures that go higher than anything else and i'm wondering what they are and do they possibly effect my CPU/PCs performance, the 2 temps are PCH from Motherboard and VR from my CPU.

My CPU is i5-12400F which has managed to get a pretty low score of 8,197 in 3DMark Time Spy, i was under the impression that it should be 10-12K.
Motherboard is Lenovo 3741, this is all i can get from HWMonitor.
Prebuilt is IdeaCentre Gaming 5 17IAB7 (RTX 3060)

If need more info let me know.

Here is the Time Spy results i ran few days ago if they show anything useful.
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/53525864

 

[PostJC]

Honestly, I was just kidding man. My apologies that you seem to have not taken it that way. Totally my bad I guess.

What do you mean? i'm not pissed off at you or anything i'm actually very thankful for trying your best to help me out, whatever the issue that my PC is having seems to be a mystery to everyone, because i have nearly upgraded everything and STILL the problems continue 😀

But yeah i ordered a Gigabyte RTX 3060 12 GB Windforce OC 2.0 GDDR6. i'm going to test if this will solve this mystery performance drop and if not, i will also grab that i5-12600K or possibly better and a 650W PSU if necessary, so far the 550W bronze PSU i borrowed is running things fine and it is incredibly quiet, not even a peep coming out of that thing.

Theres a possibility i could try to grab one of those AIO pump thingies since there is just enough room for a 360mm AIO on the roof, only sort of but not really regret i have is not getting like a reverse connector motherboard because this case supports it, would look much more pretty but oh well.

I will wait for the arrival of the new GPU and i will return to update whether my suspicion was correct or not.

EDIT: i was impatient and bought a i5-14600KF to be delivered with the GPU 🤣
Yet another edit: i went for a RTX 4060 instead of a 3060, went down a rabbit hole at looking at other cards and i could not resist.

 

[Darkbreeze]

That should run nice. As for an AIO, really that's up to each person's personal taste, but for me I don't use them on any of my own builds. Air cooling only. I realize AIO coolers are much better in terms of leakage than they used to be, but I've seen a few too many people lose expensive hardware from leaks so, I'm good with air. If a CPU is too hot to be air cooled then it's probably not a model I'm super worried about owning. Your 14600kf would do totally fine on air if you have a decent air cooler. Even a good entry level air cooler should be fine for that CPU.

 

[PostJC]

That should run nice. As for an AIO, really that's up to each person's personal taste, but for me I don't use them on any of my own builds. Air cooling only. I realize AIO coolers are much better in terms of leakage than they used to be, but I've seen a few too many people lose expensive hardware from leaks so, I'm good with air. If a CPU is too hot to be air cooled then it's probably not a model I'm super worried about owning. Your 14600kf would do totally fine on air if you have a decent air cooler. Even a good entry level air cooler should be fine for that CPU.

Hello again, new GPU arrived and it looks like i was wrong once again, my FPS is the same as it was with the old GPU, maybe even 10-20 frames lower.

Only thing i am left with is that the problem is the CPU, i mean i have upgraded literally everything pretty much and CPU is the only component left, unfortunately i was just informed that my i5-14600KF is delayed, if i have luck it will arrive on Friday before the weekends, i have used turbo on my CPU since i got the PC and now i'm wondering can it really do that much damage within like 2 years and hinder my performance this badly, like new GPU and now somehow it's a little worse????

Smoll edit: that other PCI-E cable is a lot higher up from the fans, it looks kinda like its close tho. 🤣

 

[Darkbreeze]

Allowing "turbo" behavior on your CPU, which is a default behavior, should not cause ANY damage to your CPU whether in two years or in five. It's intended to be run using turbo so unless you've modified the turbo behavior in the BIOS or using a desktop utility like Intel extreme tuning to increase the turbo speed beyond normal specifications or to increase the all core turbo speed to match the single core turbo speed, it should not be any kind of problem. It's possible you simply have a bad CPU.

 

[PostJC]

Allowing "turbo" behavior on your CPU, which is a default behavior, should not cause ANY damage to your CPU whether in two years or in five. It's intended to be run using turbo so unless you've modified the turbo behavior in the BIOS or using a desktop utility like Intel extreme tuning to increase the turbo speed beyond normal specifications or to increase the all core turbo speed to match the single core turbo speed, it should not be any kind of problem. It's possible you simply have a bad CPU.

I have not changed anything turbo related, i have disabled it once or twice temporarily but thats about it, currently i'm hitting 240 FPS in Apex Legends i assume it's capped at my monitors refresh rate which is perfect, but games like Counter Strike 2 i still suffer with same frame rate.

So there is definitely a big difference long as i'm playing demanding games that are not just CPU intensive, also the processor hits 100% utilization and is capped around like 3,94-3,95 GHz and some games it goes to 4,4 GHz , i believe the RTX 4060 is perhaps a bit too much for i5-12400F.

My i5-14600KF order also is taking forever, they have lots in stock but somehow have not even handled my order and it has been a week since i ordered, so definitely will go to next week, i have not figured out yet if overclocking this CPU will be worth it, how much performance increase can i expect and how will it affect the condition of the CPU on the long run, i know it will probably destroy the CPU faster or should i stick with turbo on that too, my cooler is good enough to handle it.

 

[Darkbreeze]

I'd run it at the stock configuration and see how it does before trying to make any decisions about whether to overclock or not.

 

[PostJC]

I'd run it at the stock configuration and see how it does before trying to make any decisions about whether to overclock or not.

Ok, and about the BIOS... now that i actually have stuff to choose from are there something thats good to have on? I have XMP enabled but i have heard something about Resizeable Bar or something like that, and it apparently gives big boost to performance so should i use it and is there more hidden gems in the BIOS?

So far i have played around with XMP, fan RPMs and LED stuff and my build is pretty much done so i feel like now i can start to dive deeper into BIOS settings stuff to squeeze out more performance / toggle stuff that everyone should on.

Also ASUS drivers for the MOBO etc are kinda confusing, like theres driver stuff that is released on same day but stuff has different names and i have no clue what i should download.

ASUS PRIME B760-PLUS D4 if you could help me look in the website and see what i should download because i feel like i did it wrong, the BIOS update i got the latest one and i think the Intel ME updated along with it, Chipset drivers v10.1.19913.8607, latest Realtek Audio Driver also i got and that is it.
https://www.asus.com/motherboards-c...lpdesk_download?model2Name=PRIME-B760-PLUS-D4