[SOLVED] What are your rtx 3090 hypothetical builds

[Prem Sawari]

if I can keep it under $2500 and still get everything I want, I might build a system in two weeks if the rtx 3090 is out by then. I'm thinking 3800XT, am4 tuf mobo,trident z at 3600, and an 850w with a good 360 air watercolor and the h510 elite case.
What are you guys' hypothetical builds?

 

[Darkbreeze]

LOL. Just the 3090 itself is probably going to cost at least 1500.00 of that, at best. At worst, at least initially, maybe more like two grand. So assuming you are talking about having about a thousand dollars left for the rest of the hardware you might want to do something like this. And forget about the H510 Elite (Or any NZXT cases for that matter) because they are nothing but garbage.

Not sure why you'd want to pay an extra hundred dollars for a 300mhz (IF you are lucky and have good enough cooling to maintain full boost profile speeds on the 3800x) bump in speed, but I'd either stick with the 3700x or move up to the 3900x that has more cores.

As far as a power supply is concerned, you are probably going to have to wait and see what the aftermarket board partners do with the power delivery. Will they have the 12 pin like the reference design? IDK. I don't think anybody knows for sure yet. One thing is for certain. All indications are that you will need a MINIMUM of an 850w power supply for the RTX 3090.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($289.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright MACHO Rev.C 84.97 CFM CPU Cooler ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X570 Steel Legend WiFi ax ATX AM4 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL14 Memory ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 510 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $863.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[Prem Sawari]

Hmmm... good points. I think a mid tower case might be too cramped so I should change that to a full tower. It seems everyone is certain of the 1400$ price for the 3090 but I think we'll know in 2 days...
Yeah I'd have to look at some benchmarks but might still settle for a 3700x but for cooling I'd definitely want an aio water cooler...

 

[Darkbreeze]

Have you ever actually HAD a full tower case? Because I can tell you, without any doubt, they are HUGE, and I mean REALLY FRACKING BIG.

The Fractal Design Meshify S2, which is basically the same case as the Define R6 but geared more for water cooling and doesn't have all the damn drive cages in the way blocking all the airflow. It is, itself, pretty damn big, considering it is a mid tower case. It has more than enough room for any build. "Cramped" is not a word you would use to describe this case.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($289.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H115i RGB Pro XT 63 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock X570 Steel Legend WiFi ax ATX AM4 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL14 Memory ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 510 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify S2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($158.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1008.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-30 03:30 EDT-0400

 

[Vic 40]

You could shave abit off and use this cpu cooler,
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2P...-ii-360-563-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00068a

 

[Darkbreeze]

Which is a good choice too. GamersNexus turned out a great review of the liquid freezer II coolers and said it was a top choice for them now. All of the Arctic AIO coolers were out of stock when I looked at that yesterday. Shows how much hardware is coming into and then out of stock currently.

 

[Phaaze88]

That just leaves longevity, which is something no one can attest to with the LF 2, as it's still fairly new.

As for the 3090, I'm just going to wait and see. Nvidia needs to give me a really strong reason to upgrade from my 1080Ti - the 2080Ti sure as heck wasn't it.

 

[Darkbreeze]

Really? Because the 2080 ti had about a 12-35% performance increase over the 1080 ti depending on the specific game, benchmark or application. Anytime you can get a 35% increase generation to generation, that's pretty outstanding. Considering the same increase, assuming, that would be anywhere from a 25% to a 70% increase from 1080 ti to 3090, most probably.

Obviously, none of us wants a repeat of "just buy it" so of course we always wait to see what the reviews say.

 

[Phaaze88]

Specific games? That applies to few people, and I'm not one of them.
The average was lower than 35% - it wasn't bad, but the price - the price is what kills that card. The performance one got for this card was utter poop.

The 1080Ti was friggin' awesome. For like 40% more than the 1080, you got like 30% more performance.
2080Ti was like 70% more than the 2080/2080 Super, but if offered ~30% more(1080Ti is about equal to the 2080) than them... WTFudge.
I get that flagships aren't about value - that didn't stop me from snagging up a 1080Ti at launch - but dang man, I've got standards, and the 2080Ti was dog poop in my eyes.

Obviously, none of us wants a repeat of "just buy it"...

Really? You must've been hibernating for the last few months. I wish I had done the same!
There's so many folks with ants in their pants waiting to bust out to snatch these things up.
It's been looking to me like people do want to 'just buy it' - they're doing it to themselves!
3090:
-Will it fit in my case? I want to put a 3090 in an NZXT H500 chassis.
-Will I need a new power supply? I have 600w psu.
-Hi, I'm planning to get Ampere when it launches, is my part list ok for gaming at 1080p on the highest settings?
-Hi, I'm planning to get Ampere when it launches, so I can maximize fps along with a 10900K, 64GB of ram at 4000mhz, 2TB NVMe SSD, 1000w psu, etc...
-Way twacing?
Blah, blah, blah...

 

[Darkbreeze]

Ok, let me clarify. I'm talking about THIS.

Tom's Hardware Edioter-in-chief's stance on RTX 20 Series : JUST BUY IT

here have a good laugh :roll::roll::roll::roll: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-rtx-gpus-worth-the-money,37689.html GN's reaction REMEMBER : "THE MORE YOU BUY, THE MORE YOU SAVE"

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Phaaze88]

Oh... that old article... hmm...

 

[Darkbreeze]

Yes. That one. The one that made our editorial department look, silly, to put it mildly.

 

[Phaaze88]

"The more I buy, the more I save."
There MIGHT be some truth to that...

 

[Karadjgne]

My case is less than 12 litres, with a 3700x, 2070 Super and full custom loop with 2x 240mm rads. Not a single dedicated case fan to be found

Average atx midtower is closer to 45 litres in volume. Needs 3-4 fans

Average full tower is closer to 80+ litres.

Mobo, psu, cpu cooler, gpu,ram. In a full tower that's close to throwing a hot-dog down a hallway. You are looking at cases that are 2feet+ tall, a foot wide and 2 feet deep. And have nothing in them but air that's got to be moved. Total utter waste of valuable desktop real-estate requiring 6-8 or more fans just to move all that air at all.

You simply do not need space, cramped? Hah, funny concept that.

 

[Prem Sawari]

Have you ever actually HAD a full tower case? Because I can tell you, without any doubt, they are HUGE, and I mean REALLY FRACKING BIG.

The Fractal Design Meshify S2, which is basically the same case as the Define R6 but geared more for water cooling and doesn't have all the damn drive cages in the way blocking all the airflow. It is, itself, pretty damn big, considering it is a mid tower case. It has more than enough room for any build. "Cramped" is not a word you would use to describe this case.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($289.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H115i RGB Pro XT 63 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock X570 Steel Legend WiFi ax ATX AM4 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL14 Memory ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 510 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify S2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($158.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1008.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-30 03:30 EDT-0400

Holy crap, I didn't see all these responses. Yes, my first disaster of a build in which I used 3 gtx 970s made use of a full tower corsair tower and yes it was huge. But good point. I checked out the sizes of these newer mid towers and yes, more than enough. Thanks!

 

[Prem Sawari]

Specific games? That applies to few people, and I'm not one of them.
The average was lower than 35% - it wasn't bad, but the price - the price is what kills that card. The performance one got for this card was utter poop.

The 1080Ti was friggin' awesome. For like 40% more than the 1080, you got like 30% more performance.
2080Ti was like 70% more than the 2080/2080 Super, but if offered ~30% more(1080Ti is about equal to the 2080) than them... WTFudge.
I get that flagships aren't about value - that didn't stop me from snagging up a 1080Ti at launch - but dang man, I've got standards, and the 2080Ti was dog poop in my eyes.


Really? You must've been hibernating for the last few months. I wish I had done the same!
There's so many folks with ants in their pants waiting to bust out to snatch these things up.
It's been looking to me like people do want to 'just buy it' - they're doing it to themselves!
3090:
-Will it fit in my case? I want to put a 3090 in an NZXT H500 chassis.
-Will I need a new power supply? I have 600w psu.
-Hi, I'm planning to get Ampere when it launches, is my part list ok for gaming at 1080p on the highest settings?
-Hi, I'm planning to get Ampere when it launches, so I can maximize fps along with a 10900K, 64GB of ram at 4000mhz, 2TB NVMe SSD, 1000w psu, etc...
-Way twacing?
Blah, blah, blah...

For me, I'm looking to enjoy my AOC 3440x1440 144hz monitor. So I'd at least want 100 fps for most games easily maxed out at 3440x1440. Hopefully the 3090 can achieve this. It's ridiculous how un-optimized many of these games are (coughs in AOC:Odyssey)....

 

[Prem Sawari]

I'm eyeing this desktop. If it's still available by next week I might try to snag it up for 1500$. I'll use it for a few months then sell the 2080ti card for like 800$ and use it to upgrade the mobo and cpu to a Ryzen 3900xt setup? Or maybe just keep it and put the money toward a 3090 if its worth it after reviews are up. I'd for sure change the case andchange the ram to a trident z 32 gb kit either way...What do you guys think?

 

[sizzling]

For me, I'm looking to enjoy my AOC 3440x1440 144hz monitor. So I'd at least want 100 fps for most games easily maxed out at 3440x1440. Hopefully the 3090 can achieve this. It's ridiculous how un-optimized many of these games are (coughs in AOC:Odyssey)....

I would love the 3090 to do 100+ FPS at max settings at that resolution but I highly doubt it. You would need about double the performance of the 2080S/2080Ti even before Ray Tracing.

 

[Prem Sawari]

I would love the 3090 to do 100+ FPS at max settings at that resolution but I highly doubt it. You would need about double the performance of the 2080S/2080Ti even before Ray Tracing.

what the hec? That's ridiculous. Then how much do they expect us to spend on a gaming pc before we can get those numbers? One of the reasons I left pc gaming honestly.

 

[sizzling]

what the hec? That's ridiculous. Then how much do they expect us to spend on a gaming pc before we can get those numbers? One of the reasons I left pc gaming honestly.

You don’t have to run max settings, you need to prioritise between high settings and high detail settings. To get an average 120 FPS in COD MW at 1440p I have to run medium settings with RT off using a 2080S.

 

[Prem Sawari]

You don’t have to run max settings, you need to prioritise between high settings and high detail settings. To get an average 120 FPS in COD MW at 1440p I have to run medium settings with RT off using a 2080S.

I know but really if I'm spending $2500-3K on a computer you would think one could max it out

 

[sizzling]

I know but really if I'm spending $2500-3K on a computer you would think one could max it out

Think of it more as game developers are making games that are able to really push hardware to extreme levels.

 

[Darkbreeze]

I would love the 3090 to do 100+ FPS at max settings at that resolution but I highly doubt it. You would need about double the performance of the 2080S/2080Ti even before Ray Tracing.

I don't agree at all.

Currently the 2080 ti is the best 4k card, and it does a pretty decent job. The RTX 3090 is supposed to POTENTIALLY have somewhere in the neighborhood of 15-30% better performance.

Since 4k means pushing 8,294,400 pixels, and 3440x1440 means only pushing 4,953,600 pixels, nearly HALF of what you'd need to push at 4k, I see ZERO reason why the RTX 3090, or even the 2080 ti for that matter, couldn't easily do this with a mixture of high and ultra settings at that resolution and assuming a capable enough CPU to push the FPS. I don't see an issue at ALL.

 

[Phaaze88]

It's ridiculous how un-optimized many of these games are (coughs in AOC:Odyssey)....

Publishers recycle the same 💩 over and over and gamble on unsuspecting 'suckers' to snag it up and still spend more via macrotransactions... it works. The people - as a whole - let them get away with it.
Like, YEARLY releases or Madden, NBA, COD... what do you think those are?
There are gems out there, but they're buried under tons of rubble.

 

[sizzling]

I don't agree at all.

Currently the 2080 ti is the best 4k card, and it does a pretty decent job. The RTX 3090 is supposed to POTENTIALLY have somewhere in the neighborhood of 15-30% better performance.

Since 4k means pushing 8,294,400 pixels, and 3440x1440 means only pushing 4,953,600 pixels, nearly HALF of what you'd need to push at 4k, I see ZERO reason why the RTX 3090, or even the 2080 ti for that matter, couldn't easily do this with a mixture of high and ultra settings at that resolution and assuming a capable enough CPU to push the FPS. I don't see an issue at ALL.

He was specific and said maxed out settings and not high & ultra. I already pointed out that you don’t have to run max settings.