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Has anyone ever heard of AMD sample chips floating around?

Where was this E-tailer located out of? I wonder how an E-tailer got a hold of it. I would assume either an Ex or soon to be ExIntel person.
 
Yes, I believe AMD also sends out ES chips so companies can review them. I'm sure all chip companies do this.

I first got excited when I bought my sempron 2800+ because the bios in my Asus K8V-E deluxe reported it to be an ES. But a bios update fixed that. I remember being surprised because nothing on the chip showed it to be an ES.
 
Has anyone ever heard of AMD sample chips floating around?

Where was this E-tailer located out of? I wonder how an E-tailer got a hold of it. I would assume either an Ex or soon to be ExIntel person.
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Just a little tidbit on industry jargon --- Intel and AMD send out engineering samples of early functional material for OEMs to initiate design and validation, typically these samples are never final production steppings (hence, this fella's B0 stepped report). This is what is called 'sampling', that is you sample a test vehicle to your customer.

When the headlines broke that Intel was 'sampling' Penryn, it was a complete misuse of the term in the common context of the usage. Intel did not sample Penryn, they simply started first silicon material, which evidently survived to the end of the line as it appears first silicon booted.

It is also not uncommon for some OEMs to have rouge employee's who will actually slip an ES to some back alley review site at times.... Tom's got one on Kentsfield for example, which is why you see serial numbers 'blacked' out.

Jack

Its suprising that anything could slip out of either Intels or AMDs control like that. When I was a kid, I used to work as a machinist, and the shop I working in had some IBM, Navy and Airforce contracts. The navy stuff was no big deal, but the IBM was "dont ask, dont tell" and the airforce stuff, while not numbered, was counted twice daily and watched. Intensely. So much so that there was no way, had anyone wanted to, to pilfer one.
 
Dude, we ship these things over to taiwan by the hundreds so the mobo makers can get to work on boards.
I could only imagine what happens to my little baby on the streets of Taipei after her usefulness has been worn out.
 
Dude, we ship these things over to taiwan by the hundreds so the mobo makers can get to work on boards.
I could only imagine what happens to my little baby on the streets of Taipei after her usefulness has been worn out.
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That many? Wow, yeah, I guess they would be impossible to keep control of.
 
I'm not sure whether to suck up or scream "BASTARD!" I guess I'll just be quietly indifferent.
-cm

edit: Spelled "whether" incorrectly. Idiot.
 
Well people .. its now Thursday, January 25th, 2007 .. I still have not received anything from the retailer .. my VISA account shows no refunds applied.

Send retailer a nasty gram telling them to refund before end of business today .. if I see nothing, will start investigation through VISA provider on retailer.

They picked the wrong person to screw with when it comes to funds .. especially when I work for the same company the VISA account is with.
 
Blackmail the vendor who sold it to you! Tell them that they better hook you up or you'll report it to Intel. Don't take their first offer though. See what you can get out of them.
 
Adambomb, that's sounding a bit illegal! They might charge you as an accomplice, I mean it was your idea. Think off the prison time. You don't want anyone to make you their little "project computer for data entry" in prison. :wink: j/k!

Give'em h3ll LordGeek
 
Neither. Just realize that he is probably a little biased (you or I would be too if it's our own company and products.) My guess is that he is probably more knowledgeable than most people here about the ins and outs of the business because he's on the inside. That means that he has some information that we can't, but he's also probably under NDA for the "really good stuff." We don't want to tick him off and have him leave but groveling is not necessary.
 
Your check is in the mail. It takes 10-18 weeks to receive your refund, though you only have 7 business days to notify the company if you have any problems
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So It's YOUR company isnt it! AHA! Comptia_Rep owns the etailer that shipping ES silicon out! 😛 After all, how does he know how long it take to get a refund? and really, who refunds a visa with a check? Comptia_rep does, thats who!

Refunding a visa is really easy, just select the refund option on the machine, and then, wait for it, type in the amount to refund and then, *gasp*, input the card information! So far only blizzard was a douchebag enough to send my a check in the mail for a refund of WoW(ahem, 8 MONTHS LATER!).

Hehe, just jokes man. But where did you get those numbers?
 
Unless he ever went to prision, in which it came out his (_O_)

I think you guys are being to harsh on him. This has nothing to do with his company, I believe it was satire, nothing more. (Unless I'm wrong and that is his business model...)
 
I really wished that I had hopped into this discussion when it was new. I'm not sure if some of this has been said yet since I haven't read all 7 pages. I'm sorry if I'm repeating anything.
The OP's first mistake was sending the processor back. When you are most likely the victim of a scam you DO NOT send back your only bargaining chip... especially with a note that will "stick it to them". A scammer isn't going to care. Even if it were a respectable retailer and it were somehow a mistake, you should ALWAYS contact the retailer first and get RMA/Return instructions instead of just sending it back.
I would have emailed the retailer first to see what they would be willing to do about it. If their response seemed reasonable enough I MIGHT go along with it, but I would definitely report it to Intel, and possibly the Better Business Bureau depending on what kind of retailer it was.

Edit: I'm sorry if this seems like a slap on the wrist to anyone, but getting scammed is something that really pisses me off. Its only really happened to me once, but it also happened to a friend of mine who used the same online retailer without knowing that I had been scammed by them. That, and a recent ordeal with PayPal involving unauthorized purchases on my account and then having to fight with them to get my money back has really made me apathetic towards the whole "I got scammed, now where's my justice?" process.

-mcg
 
MyCommunistGen

You're right .. no slapping here. What you described is exactly how it was handled .. I contacted the retailer about the issue .. they emailed me the RMA information .. processor was shipped back overnight .. so I have information for tracking and signatures that signed for it. Yes, they have the processor in there hands .. emails went flying back and forth in regards to them telling me that the processor is fine .. no problems .. registers correctly etc etc etc ... I would not accept that .. the processor was still a Q-Spec "Q" Series .. Engineering Sample .. B0 .. so either way .. this is a processor that was NOT to be sold to consumers.

The last email I received from them was Monday, January 22nd in which they decided to credit back my Visa account the FULL amount paid .. was told this would take 2 to 3 days to process. Well today is now the 3rd business day .. as of right now, the funds are not in my account.

So behind all this .. even though I do not have the product in my hands anymore .. I have one helllva digital/paper trail along with pics that can still cause alot of problems for them.

Intel has been contacted .. and thats all I gonna say.

I'll keep everyone posted ...
 
I really wished that I had hopped into this discussion when it was new. I'm not sure if some of this has been said yet since I haven't read all 7 pages. I'm sorry if I'm repeating anything.
The OP's first mistake was sending the processor back. When you are most likely the victim of a scam you DO NOT send back your only bargaining chip... especially with a note that will "stick it to them". A scammer isn't going to care. Even if it were a respectable retailer and it were somehow a mistake, you should ALWAYS contact the retailer first and get RMA/Return instructions instead of just sending it back.
I would have emailed the retailer first to see what they would be willing to do about it. If their response seemed reasonable enough I MIGHT go along with it, but I would definitely report it to Intel, and possibly the Better Business Bureau depending on what kind of retailer it was.

Edit: I'm sorry if this seems like a slap on the wrist to anyone, but getting scammed is something that really pisses me off. Its only really happened to me once, but it also happened to a friend of mine who used the same online retailer without knowing that I had been scammed by them. That, and a recent ordeal with PayPal involving unauthorized purchases on my account and then having to fight with them to get my money back has really made me apathetic towards the whole "I got scammed, now where's my justice?" process.

-mcg
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I KNOW! EVERYBODY TOLD HIM TO DO THAT AND HE DIDN'T! WHY EVEN BOTHER ASKING US WHAT TO DO!??!?! You are so right, and I'm a bit pissed that he just ignored a lot of comments and advice... advices (not sure that's a word...)
-cm
 
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