[SOLVED] What PSU for Asus TUF 3080 ti?

[BlackApple]

Hey there,

I bought an new PSU, the "Seasonic Prime PX-1000", because I thought the, in title mentioned, GPU would tripp the OCP of my old PSU (Corsair HX750i). Now I think the GPU tripps the OCP from the new PSU too. Because the PC sometimes reboots randomly still.

I read the PSU needs a good Transient Response because of the power spickes from this types of GPU´s. But there my knowledge ends and I am out of answers.

Now my question: What PSU works well for the Asus TUF 3080 ti?

Thanks.

PS: Sorry for bad language i am not a native speaker

 

[lvt]

You can use the same PSU that was used for the test here, a Corsair 850W.

https://www.pctekreviews.com/Reviews/ASUS-RTX-3080-TUF.aspx

 

[Karadjgne]

The Seasonic Prime PX1000 should be well able to handle the transient spikes of any 30 series card, unless you happen to have gotten an older actual unit. Which can happen.

I'd be looking to windows event viewer, see if there's any critical issues causing the sudden power loss.

 

[Zerk2012]

Hey there,

I bought an new PSU, the "Seasonic Prime PX-1000", because I thought the, in title mentioned, GPU would tripp the OCP of my old PSU (Corsair HX750i). Now I think the GPU tripps the OCP from the new PSU too. Because the PC sometimes reboots randomly still.

I read the PSU needs a good Transient Response because of the power spickes from this types of GPU´s. But there my knowledge ends and I am out of answers.

Now my question: What PSU works well for the Asus TUF 3080 ti?

Thanks.

PS: Sorry for bad language i am not a native speaker

If it was tripping the OCP then you would have to flip the power supply switch off then back on for it to work again.

Yours is rebooting so you have a different problem.

 

[JeffreyP55]

Hey there,

I bought an new PSU, the "Seasonic Prime PX-1000", because I thought the, in title mentioned, GPU would tripp the OCP of my old PSU (Corsair HX750i). Now I think the GPU tripps the OCP from the new PSU too. Because the PC sometimes reboots randomly still.

I read the PSU needs a good Transient Response because of the power spickes from this types of GPU´s. But there my knowledge ends and I am out of answers.

Now my question: What PSU works well for the Asus TUF 3080 ti?

Thanks.

PS: Sorry for bad language i am not a native speaker

Play it safe, 1200w I feel comfortable for the near future of power hungry vid cards.. For you, minimum at least a 750w.

 

[BlackApple]

If it was tripping the OCP then you would have to flip the power supply switch off then back on for it to work again.

Yours is rebooting so you have a different problem.

Hey Zerk2012,

Do you have a few suggestions what the problem could be ore how I coulb be able to troubleshoot them?

 

[Karadjgne]

Open up a CMD with Admin privileges.
Type: sfc /scannow
Type: dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth

See if they pickup on anything.

 

[BlackApple]

Open up a CMD with Admin privileges.
Type: sfc /scannow
Type: dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth

See if they pickup on anything.

Hey,

Thanks for the Tipps sfc /scannow found damaged files. dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth completed successfull.

But I still think it has to do with the new GPU and PSU because this system worked perfectly fine with another GPU (gtx1080) for over a year. The reboots started just after I switched GPU´s.

 

[Karadjgne]

But I still think it has to do with the new GPU and PSU because this system worked perfectly fine with another GPU (gtx1080) for over a year. The reboots started just after I switched GPU´s

Most do. And it's hard to track down at times. But figure this. If it's a hardware conflict due to excessive transient spikes from a hi-po 30 series card then 2 things would be noted. OCP tripping would require a hard reset of the psu, and you wouldn't have found corrupted system files. Those corrupted files would have affected the pc regardless of gpu or cpu, so would have affected the pc even with the 1080ti. Which didn't happen.

So logic would dictate the corruptions happened After you deleted the old driver files or upon installing the new driver files. Neither of which has anything to do with the hardware in question.

With issues like yours, there's often no exact one simple/easy fix. It boils down to trial & error. You found System File errors, that's a start. They'll definitely cause reboots without tripping the psu. For now, just keep gaming and see if the reboots stop, if they don't, you can adjust your focus away from it being a software/driver issue.

Sometimes just updating the bios and/or 'dirty' reinstall of windows can fix the problems. They may not be actual corrupted System File issues, but corrupted association issues in the registry. There's a way to reinstall windows without Any loss of data, that's a 'dirty' install or overlay, vs a 'Clean' install that wipes everything.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Hey there,

I bought an new PSU, the "Seasonic Prime PX-1000", because I thought the, in title mentioned, GPU would tripp the OCP of my old PSU (Corsair HX750i). Now I think the GPU tripps the OCP from the new PSU too. Because the PC sometimes reboots randomly still.

I read the PSU needs a good Transient Response because of the power spickes from this types of GPU´s. But there my knowledge ends and I am out of answers.

Now my question: What PSU works well for the Asus TUF 3080 ti?

Thanks.

PS: Sorry for bad language i am not a native speaker

Hey there,

If you check out Gamers Nexus' vid on transients: The Brewing Problem with GPU Power Design | Transients - YouTube , you will see the Seasonic Prime PSU's have a particular issue with transients. Reference: FYI: Seasonic and RTX 3000 users w/ shutdowns, Seasonic WILL NOT replace your PSU with something better unless they are short on stock. : nvidia (reddit.com)

For the most part the Corsair RMx seem very capable of dealing with transients.

When the the trip happens, do you here a audible click? if so, this indicates it's OCP. If you dont' hear a click, it is more linked to OPP, as I understand it.

The difference between two PSU's (with one not having issues and the other having issues) is down to the internal components, in this case the output capicitors. The better quality capacitors (with higher capacity), the more likely it is the PSU will be capable of taking the larger spikes.

PSU manufacturers are now taking notice of this (although they don't admit their PSU's will have issues with power spikes). I think BeQuiet are now detailing this info (power spikes) with regard to new PSU purchases. Pretty cool. I think all PSU OEM's and distributors should do this.

 

[CameronCant]

I have a EVGA Supernova 1000GT. I could not be happier with this purchase so far.

3080ti MSI Gaming Trio X

Amazon.com: EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 GT, 80 Plus Gold 1000W, Fully Modular, Eco Mode with FDB Fan, 10 Year Warranty, Includes Power ON Self Tester, Compact 150mm Size, Power Supply 220-GT-1000-X1 : Everything Else

 

[BlackApple]

Most do. And it's hard to track down at times. But figure this. If it's a hardware conflict due to excessive transient spikes from a hi-po 30 series card then 2 things would be noted. OCP tripping would require a hard reset of the psu, and you wouldn't have found corrupted system files. Those corrupted files would have affected the pc regardless of gpu or cpu, so would have affected the pc even with the 1080ti. Which didn't happen.

So logic would dictate the corruptions happened After you deleted the old driver files or upon installing the new driver files. Neither of which has anything to do with the hardware in question.

With issues like yours, there's often no exact one simple/easy fix. It boils down to trial & error. You found System File errors, that's a start. They'll definitely cause reboots without tripping the psu. For now, just keep gaming and see if the reboots stop, if they don't, you can adjust your focus away from it being a software/driver issue.

Sometimes just updating the bios and/or 'dirty' reinstall of windows can fix the problems. They may not be actual corrupted System File issues, but corrupted association issues in the registry. There's a way to reinstall windows without Any loss of data, that's a 'dirty' install or overlay, vs a 'Clean' install that wipes everything.

If you check out Gamers Nexus' vid on transients: The Brewing Problem with GPU Power Design | Transients - YouTube , you will see the Seasonic Prime PSU's have a particular issue with transients. Reference: FYI: Seasonic and RTX 3000 users w/ shutdowns, Seasonic WILL NOT replace your PSU with something better unless they are short on stock. : nvidia (reddit.com)

Karadjgne, thanks for the good explanation.

I read it now too that the Seasonic Prime PSU's have this issue. Roland Of Gilead thanks for the additional conformation.
Because of that, I think I should replace the Seasonic PSU with another one (I am still able to return the Seasonic PSU). And then maybe do a clean install of Windows (I have a few SSD's to save my data). With that, I should remove all possible software issues.

For the PSU, I could choose between:
- "EVGA Supernova 1000GT"
-"corsair rm1000x v2"
- "corsair hx1000 (i)"
-"Be quiet! Straight Power 11 Platinum 1000W"
(Would the last three also be able to handle transient spikes, for sure? I think they should be but I want to collect a few more opinions.)
(All 1000W to allow headroom for future GPU generations)

What does this plan sound like?

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Seems the BeQuiet has some lower than expected results with 'some' transient loads. But does okay at most: be quiet! E11-1000 Transient Response Tests (tomshardware.com)

The RMX seems more capable in that area: Transient Response Tests, Timing Tests, Ripple Measurements and EMC Pre-Compliance Testing - Corsair RM1000x (2021) Power Supply Review | Tom's Hardware (tomshardware.com)

Can't find much on the EVGA. The HX looks, pretty good with transients on all rails. So that could be a good choice too.

I'm a Corsair fan, so prob go with RMX/HX.

 

[Karadjgne]

Supernova GT is a Seasonic G platform, so a Hard no there. Supernova G6 or P2 uses an advanced Focus+ platform, a serious improvement.

Either Corsair, Absolutely. The RMx is Gold efficiency, the HXi is Platinum, so your choice, either is excellent and pioneered the development of circuitry to moderate transient spikes. Newer Seasonic platforms now use a similar circuit. Just be careful with Corsair choices, vendors have a real nasty habit of listing the RMx, showing pictures of the 2021/2022 models, and shipping a 2017 model RMx which looks somewhat similar, but doesn't have the newer changes to the platform for the 30 series transients.

BeQuiet has 6 lines of psus, SFX/TFX don't count here, System Power is for Office use, Pure Power is for low end budget pc's, Straight Power is for mid-high range gaming, but Dark Power is what's needed for a high end pc, Titanium rated efficiency, but performance is lower than that of the Corsair AXi in just about every department. Still a very good psu, just not top of the list. Uses CWT for OEM, same as Corsair RMx/HXi, so build quality is equitable at that level, but I'm not sure just how well they handle the transient spikes, whether they are equal or not to Corsair's offerings.

 

[BlackApple]

Okay, thank you very much.

That really helped me I think.

Just be careful with Corsair choices, vendors have a real nasty habit of listing the RMx, showing pictures of the 2021/2022 models, and shipping a 2017 model RMx which looks somewhat similar, but doesn't have the newer changes to the platform for the 30 series transients

How do I make shure this wont happen to me is there a trick?

 

[Karadjgne]

Yes. Best way to describe it is goto PCPartPicker.com. Use the filters for Corsair, Gold. You'll see the RMx listing with (2017), (2021) etc. Then look at the pictures. There's slight but distinct differences in the way the lettering and numbers are shown. If you then look at other websites, like Wish or eBay, you'll find even older versions, with White numbers but Gold colored 'RMx' which predate the 2017. Yes, ppl are still trying to sell 5yr old or more psu's as 'New' or 'open box'.

It's like looking at a car. You get to tell the difference between model years by changes to the headlights and tail lights, even if the paint looks pristine you can still tell a 94 mustang and a 2014 mustang apart.

Corsair has literal world-wide sales, they have a presence in every market, so use brand recognition to a very high degree. The RMx are known to be excellent psus, so Corsair stuck with the moniker. Evga went the other route, they have successfully swamped the market with dozens of squ's, and rely on miss-direction for sales. GS, GT, GA, G2, G3, G5, G6, all gold rated but you gotta investigate which are so-so and which are really good Golds, which are new models, which are old. It's seriously confusing.

 

[BlackApple]

Yes. Best way to describe it is goto PCPartPicker.com. Use the filters for Corsair, Gold. You'll see the RMx listing with (2017), (2021) etc. Then look at the pictures. There's slight but distinct differences in the way the lettering and numbers are shown. If you then look at other websites, like Wish or eBay, you'll find even older versions, with White numbers but Gold colored 'RMx' which predate the 2017. Yes, ppl are still trying to sell 5yr old or more psu's as 'New' or 'open box'.

It's like looking at a car. You get to tell the difference between model years by changes to the headlights and tail lights, even if the paint looks pristine you can still tell a 94 mustang and a 2014 mustang apart.

Corsair has literal world-wide sales, they have a presence in every market, so use brand recognition to a very high degree. The RMx are known to be excellent psus, so Corsair stuck with the moniker. Evga went the other route, they have successfully swamped the market with dozens of squ's, and rely on miss-direction for sales. GS, GT, GA, G2, G3, G5, G6, all gold rated but you gotta investigate which are so-so and which are really good Golds, which are new models, which are old. It's seriously confusing.

Thanks, that helped, I think. XD


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