What We Know About The GTX 2080 (And Why It May Not Matter)

[Guest]

It all boils down to what the Hash rate to Price ends up being on the next gen cards.

If it is reasonable then the miners will focus on this card and you'll see ebay/azon/cl flooded with good priced gpu's, especially the older generations. What is $1100 today could be $600 tomorrow as miners try to get as much as they can for them and upgrade to the more powerful cards to stay competitive. Miners are interested in one thing, profits. If they can make more profit with the new cards, this is where they are going to run to. If not then they'll stick with the current models.

It will be very interesting to watch this play out over the summer.

 

[gamertaboo]

First off, Tweaktown is out of their minds that Nvidia will price these new cards at 2x what the GTX 1080 ti costs at MSRP. Which by the way, you can still get at MSRP from Nvidia and places like EVGA's online store, if you wait and are very quick when they come in stock. No way they are going to double the price. Scalpers will continue to rip people off however, sure.

Second, we will have to see what sort of performance they have over the current cards. Last time around people with GTX 980ti's didn't really need to upgrade to the GTX 1080 at launch because there wasn't much of a difference. However many did anyway, because there was a difference, Pascal can just do some things easier than Maxwell. Which when you're an enthusiast, matters. I have a 1080 ti, and I want to know what the new cards bring. Hopefully it's a tangible performance bump. I play at 3440x1440 @100Hz and my 1080 ti cannot handle new games at max settings, like FFXV, with the hi-res texture pack at max I get only 50-60fps. Which isn't *bad* per se, but it's nowhere near 100fps right?

Finally, as far as I remember the last time around. They announced the GTX 1080 and 1070 around this time of the year, and they didn't start going on sale until like July/Aug if I remember right. I did buy my first GTX 1080 during launch week. And there was TONS of stock. They went quick, but they kept coming back in stock daily. Had to camp out on NowInStock.com for a few days to get one.

 

[ddferrari]

Personally I think there is a lot of demand coming for proper 60fps 4k capability. Even a 1080ti can't put out 60fps at 4k at ultra settings in todays games, so personally I think there is a good new demand for the GPU segment to move forward. Now of course if you already have a 1080ti and it was a big purchase for you, I'm sure you can stick with it for quite some time but there's demand rising.

N/T

 

[ddferrari]

Personally I think there is a lot of demand coming for proper 60fps 4k capability. Even a 1080ti can't put out 60fps at 4k at ultra settings in todays games, so personally I think there is a good new demand for the GPU segment to move forward. Now of course if you already have a 1080ti and it was a big purchase for you, I'm sure you can stick with it for quite some time but there's demand rising.

The 1080 TI does do 60fps+ at ultra settings in all but a handful of poorly optimized games (big deal), and the visual difference between Ultra and High settings is so minimal, by the way, that it's nearly imperceptible.
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/SsZPdruZvNStBd8yhNB4tF.png

 

[Sonickrunch]

Personally I think there is a lot of demand coming for proper 60fps 4k capability. Even a 1080ti can't put out 60fps at 4k at ultra settings in todays games, so personally I think there is a good new demand for the GPU segment to move forward. Now of course if you already have a 1080ti and it was a big purchase for you, I'm sure you can stick with it for quite some time but there's demand rising.

The 1080 TI does do 60fps+ at ultra settings in all but a handful of poorly optimized games (big deal), and the visual difference between Ultra and High settings is so minimal, by the way, that it's nearly imperceptible.
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/SsZPdruZvNStBd8yhNB4tF.png

https://www.hardocp.com/article/2018/03/20/nvidia_titan_v_video_card_gaming_review

Here is an article which shows some of those games not running 60fps @ 4k ultra, and even worse when set to complete in game max. I'm suggesting people want consistant over 60fps with their cards at ultra. There's always room to push the fidelity. They will always come up with new rendering techniques that will turn modern GPU's into mush. also with VR headsets getting more and more pixels, getting to that 90fps sweetspot is tougher and tougher. And since the norm of having the previous gen's top card be just slightly faster than the next gen upper-mid range card. I'm excited to see what the 2070 can do, if it can match the 1080ti(albeit a little slower) for a price point around $499-549USD range.

 

[spdragoo]

13 games tested by HardOCP, & yet in 8 of the games a 1080TI was able to get over 60FPS, & came close (50+) in 3 of the remaining 5. That's not exactly anything to complain about.

Although it was weird that HardOCP (using the same i7-7700K CPU) had lower performance in Watch Dogs 2 & Rise of the Tomb Raider than Techspot did (https://www.techspot.com/review/1352-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti/)...unless perhaps the 32GB of RAM Techspot used had an effect...

 

[Colin_10]

Don't know about you guys but now that I have upgraded to a 144hz monitor, playing at only 60 fps is painful. In games where the graphics are more demanding I would rather turn down the settings to keep frame rates closer to 100. In my opinion there is a lot of room for improvement in graphics cards.

 

[blppt]

"13 games tested by HardOCP, & yet in 8 of the games a 1080TI was able to get over 60FPS, & came close (50+) in 3 of the remaining 5. That's not exactly anything to complain about."

Yes, but that's using games that aren't particularly new except for KC D (which ran like crap at 4k on the Ti). No FFXV nor ACO, which all very demanding, even at 1080p. And thats just up to now---i very much doubt that games are going to get easier to run well at 4k for major releases this year. Most likely newer games will be even more demanding.

Its worth noting that they ran the tests on a FE (non-oc'd) 1080ti, and probably most of us have factory oc models.

 

[syedtalha3000]

When we will be getting new series GPUs ?

 

[syedtalha3000]

When new GPUs are coming ?

 

[AgentLozen]

When new GPUs are coming?

Officially, nobody knows for sure.

Rumors are saying that the next generation Nvidia GPUs will launch this summer. Their launch will allegedly correspond with the availability of GDDR6 memory that's due out around the same time.

 

[Martell1977]

When new GPUs are coming?

Officially, nobody knows for sure.

Rumors are saying that the next generation Nvidia GPUs will launch this summer. Their launch will allegedly correspond with the availability of GDDR6 memory that's due out around the same time.

Except Tom's just did an article stating that nVidia will likely not announce anything until the and of the year as nothing is planned at upcoming inventions.

 

[AgentLozen]

Except Tom's just did an article stating that nVidia will likely not announce anything until the and of the year as nothing is planned at upcoming inventions.

Good eye Martell1977. I didn't want to mislead anyone with my post. I made sure to mention that nobody really knows and I carefully chose to include the words "rumors" and "allegedly".

Do you have the link to that story? I must have missed that detail. Thanks for filling in the gaps. 😉

 

[Martell1977]

Good eye Martell1977. I didn't want to mislead anyone with my post. I made sure to mention that nobody really knows and I carefully chose to include the words "rumors" and "allegedly".

Do you have the link to that story? I must have missed that detail. Thanks for filling in the gaps. 😉

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-turing-graphics-architecture-delayed,36603.html

There are always rumors of the new stuff coming and we never can tell when people start them just to get people to hold off potentially buying a competitors card, thinking that something much better is on the horizon. If the next lineup was a moth away, I can see waiting, but a complete unknown?

 

[AgentLozen]

Thanks for the link Martell. I enjoyed re-reading through the article. It's a month old but I think it's still relevant.

It states:
"... nothing concrete regarding Nvidia’s next-gen gaming graphics products is likely to be revealed at these shows. Rumors that these venues would be the big reveal for Nvidia’s 2018 cards to succeed its current Pascal lineup should be put to rest."

It's referring to two conventions from March. The Graphics Technology Conference and Game Developers Conference. As far as I know, this information held true throughout March.

The author hints at a possible timeline for next gen Nvidia hardware production:
"Tidbits we’ve heard from various other sources with knowledge of the situation also suggest that the mass production of Turing cards will not start until mid-June, and thus a hard launch of board-partner cards is not expected before July."

Finally, they allege that we'll get the official launch announcement in August:
"It looks more likely that the venue for the big unveiling of Turing-based partner cards will come at Gamescom in August, at which time gamers will be able to get their hands on them..."

In summary, Tomshardware thinks that production will ramp up over the summer and that we'll see an official announcement in August. Thanks again for the link Martell1977.

 

[Martell1977]

True, however, it's still rumor and as we have seen in the past from both AMD and nVidia, we get paper launches about a month before and cards actually make it to the market and then partner cards a time after that. So assuming they start production in June and board-partners get the chips in mid-late July, then they need to design the custom coolers to get them right, then build up stock of the cards and ship them to retailers. I'm thinking that we are talking hundreds of thousands if not millions of chips and cards, I'd expect them to come in time for Christmas, so October for reference cards / November for board-partners, assuming there are no hitches.

Plus availability is rarely there after an "unveiling". Considering the last few launches, I just can't see the timeline from starting production to availability in only 2 months.