What's New in the ATI Catalyst 10.9 Drivers

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nOv1c3

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Any driver after 10.4 pretty much brakes all the older OpenGL games

The Responce we get on ATI support forum is , Its not ati drivers problems its the game maker problems :/ You bring it up on the forums they well either delete your reply or just lock the thread all together

They did suggest Puting the 10.4 atioglxx.dll in the game folder but that just a hack and dont realy fix all the games
 

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[citation][nom]raidur[/nom]I still see advances in 4xxx cards here and there. Do you guys want them to concentrate more on the 4xxx & 3xxx series cards and older games (which are, or likely are already optimized) or should they put their time towards relevance?I do agree I wish they would spend all their time improving 4890 crossfire, however that is selfish. I'd prefer they stick to relevance. Software can only go so far.I can't comment about the bad codecs and super old games though as I have no experience with the 5 series yet. Haven't had issues on the HD4k though.[/citation]

New generations of cards come out every what? 8 months? Let's be generous and say each years. We are not talking about consoles that come out with a new generation each 4 years or more. So what really happens by what they are doing is, they advertise, say the 4890 (it's the card I have, did a mistake in my previous post), to be able to run, say S.T.A.L.K.E.R. - Call of Pripyat, at it's best, but what really happen is that it runs like shit on it. After the said 8 months they managed to boost the performances of the 4890 with CoP of about 6%, which is not acceptable at all. Some % are still needed, and most likely possible to obtain by further optimizing the code. But since the new generation is out, well, no luck, we don't see any more improvements. So we're stuck with a card that add premise, but don't fulfill it. That kind of thing is very frequent on the ATI side.

And I still don't understand how so much people can bash game makers for lack of optimization, but can't realize driver makers have a part to play in it too. nVidia could also be blamed for dropping fast their older lines of cards in term of driver optimization, but they are still way better than ATI at it. I've had plenty of cards from both companies, and I often read the drivers release notes. I still saw improvements in the notes for the 8800gt line about 10 months ago. And I never had any problems with older games with nVidia. Everything that is 16bit or more, old or not, works fine.

Ask all the gamers what they think about relevance? Who buy a PC each year? When you pay 1000$ and more for a computer, you like it to last at least the life cycle of a console, without having to do big sacrifices in terms of graphical settings. And what needs more optimization? The new beats that just came out that can eat anything on the marker anyway, or the aging one that needs some juice to keep up in the race? I think the answer is clear.
 

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[citation][nom]raidur[/nom]I still see advances in 4xxx cards here and there. Do you guys want them to concentrate more on the 4xxx & 3xxx series cards and older games (which are, or likely are already optimized) or should they put their time towards relevance?I do agree I wish they would spend all their time improving 4890 crossfire, however that is selfish. I'd prefer they stick to relevance. Software can only go so far.I can't comment about the bad codecs and super old games though as I have no experience with the 5 series yet. Haven't had issues on the HD4k though.[/citation]
I believe that they should stick with the current series and previous series when doing improvements. Anything prior to that would be a lot more unnecessary. There are 4000 series cards that perform well enough and still need attention like my 4870x2. =P But yeah... improvements on the 3000 series would be much less important, seeing as how it cannot run most games anyway! =P
 

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I wonder if this version of the driver will work better than the previous ones ....
My (not-so-standard) system doesn't really play nice with the recent drivers!
10.8 makes the system crash when running 3d
10.7 makes the system bluescreen on boot
10.6 works for direct3d but not opengl - using opengl driver from 9 series catalyst). Also 10.6 changes the monitor placement and resolution on boot. Two displays in clone are suddenly in the middle instead of the left as configured, and the display that was middle is left and reset to the resolution used by the cloned ones instead of 1680x1050 as configured.

Mailed amd about it earlier, but since opengl games haven't been running on systems like mine for at least 5 catalyst iterations it's unlikely they bother reading it.

Guess I'll give this driver a shot. Steam downloaded it earlier, but I was busy, so I said no to install it right away, and now I can't find a way to make steam do it. Can't even use the store search feature to find it in fact.
 

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[citation][nom]neiroatopelcc[/nom]Steam downloaded it earlier, but I was busy, so I said no to install it right away, and now I can't find a way to make steam do it. Can't even use the store search feature to find it in fact.[/citation]
Have you checked the Steam folder or your My Docs in case it just DL'd it for you to execute later?
 
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For anyone else who has terrible performance problems in Starcraft 2 since the recent driver updates, open Catalyst Control Center, click Advanced and open the 3D page. In there open the AA tab and make sure "Use application settings" is ticked. Problem solved.
 

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[citation][nom]n3ard3ath[/nom]ATI drivers are so pathetic. I should have stayed with nVidia. Went from a 8800gt to a 4970. The performances improvements aren't worth the problem the drivers gave me. Conflict with video codecs, resulting in BSODs, lack of optimization in new games overall for anything that isn't the LATEST generation of their cards (being the 5*** right now), bad backward compatibility with old games (Can't even play NWN 1 with water reflection turned on [could with the 8800gt without any problems], Dungeon Keeper 2 crashing, etc.), CCC crashing in windows XP...Great cards, bad drivers. But they drivers are a fuel that drive the cards, so if they can't even provide good fuel, what's the point?[/citation]

Selective memory fuels favoritism (vice versa is probably more accurate) - or maybe you missed that the Nvidia drivers released a number of months ago mis-handled the fan control so badly that it actually caused some of the video adapters to burn up?

I tend to favor Nvidia myself, and maybe the 5000 series AMD drivers have been problematic, but in the history of things both companies have had their ups and downs. Fortunately, mostly ups in both cases.

 
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