What's the deal with MS05-002 (KB891711.EXE) and Windows 98?

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No! I'll do my best to protect you, though, soon as I return from
Saskatchewan!

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Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
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| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
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> IE 5.5 SP2 does work (that's what I've been using). However, whether or
> not "browseui" and "browselc" changed between IE 5.5, IE 5.5 SP1, and IE 5.5
> SP2, I don't know for sure, but if I were a betting man, I would guess at
> least one of them did.
>
> Well let's see, I notice the file dates on those two files are 12/03 and
> 7/01, respectively (in my particular case), so presumably the "browseui" one
> was upgraded a tad with SP2.

I think the browselc.dll file has stayed the same for all versions of IE 5.5.
The browseui.dll file has been modified by recent security updates, the latest one being MS05-014. The version of browseui.dll from that patch is 5.50.4948.700.
 
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cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user) wrote:
>>Rick Chauvin wrote:

[....]

>>> I vote to get it fixed properly though so that those two dll's are
>>> inclusive of all Numerous Updates that are Missing if swapped

> If I had resources to fix this (as one presumes MS has) I'd do this:
> - get documentation on what's changed in those two .DLL
> - any crucial exploits that depend on those files to fix?
> - determine most recent .DLL that work via the fix (IE 5.5 SP2?)

...any version of those dll's from 5.5 worked just fine, it was the first
release of IE6 and absolutely irregardless of what others think, even SP1
still has the same exact problem. About the dll's though and mostlikely it
is them, but just because swapping the dll's do appear on the surface to
eliminate the problem does not mean 100% it is the dll's that's the issue in
the first place - it could be other things closely related. In circuit
troubleshooting and no doubt it's the same with software, I've seen time and
time again where you think it may be one component causing a problem where in
the end it may end up have been another down the line causing the
malfunction. Always had to keep an open mind.

> - FC these against the IE 6 ones that don't work
> - see if what FC finds can be mapped to particular functions
> - if offset dependencies allow:
> - paste across functions from IE 6 to old until old breaks
> - paste across functions from old to IE 6 until IE 6 works
> - zoom in and disassemble the problemetic function
> - see if a logic error etc. can be found
> - fix the function and issue fixed .DLLs as on-request hotfix
> - after testing, issue as downloadable hotfix, then WinUpate

Okay, sounds good to me :) Who's the programmer at MS that has the know how
and access to do this?

Chris, would you do me a favor, there is the other thread in this group that
has two conversations going on within it, if you want to please read it and
reply to your other fellow MVP's as to any pertinent facts that you can help
let them know there is a problem, because as it stands surprisingly to me
they do not think there is a problem at all and that it was already fixed -
which I am baffled at why they think that.
Please look for this header:

From: "Jerry Bryant [MSFT]"
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion................
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 2:06 AM
Subject: MS05-002 on 9x and ME

Thank you,
Rick




> MS wouldn't have to hack around with FC, given they'd have the source
> code. It would also be easier from them to read up on what changes
> were made to these .DLL, and whether any exploits need these changes
> to remain blocked. It would be a sad commentary on MS, if within a
> few months of reading this post, somene ITW came up with a fix, even
> though they lacked MS's advantage of source code and documentation.
>
> Well, there's the gauntlet. Anyone care to pick it up? :)
>
>
>
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I too have been told that there is a problem with this update as I have
posted earlier. So why is this update still listed as a critical
update at the Windows update site? Some people have their machines
automatically updated. If this update is giving so many people
problems, MS should have maybe pulled it or at least given precautions.
 
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:16:04 -0500, "Rick Chauvin"
>cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user) wrote:
>>>Rick Chauvin wrote:

(about Explorer.exe bogging down after bulk file operations)

>> If I had resources to fix this (as one presumes MS has) I'd do this:
>> - get documentation on what's changed in those two .DLL
>> - any crucial exploits that depend on those files to fix?
>> - determine most recent .DLL that work via the fix (IE 5.5 SP2?)

>..any version of those dll's from 5.5 worked just fine, it was the first
>release of IE6 and absolutely irregardless of what others think, even SP1
>still has the same exact problem.

I can confirm IE 6 SP1 has the same problem - that's what I have!

>About the dll's though and most likely it is them, but just because
>swapping the dll's do appear on the surface to eliminate the problem
>does not mean 100% it is the dll's that's the issue in the first place - it
>could be other things closely related.

Sure; it may be a point of fix, though.

BrowseUI.dll is quite large, nearly 1M, so it's likely there's a lot
of action there. BrowseLC.dll is a little 62k wisp of a thing, so
it's interesting that it is cited as a co-defendent - especially as
similar-wildcard-matching BrowseWM.dll was not.

>> - FC these against the IE 6 ones that don't work
>> - see if what FC finds can be mapped to particular functions
>> - if offset dependencies allow:
>> - paste across functions from IE 6 to old until old breaks
>> - paste across functions from old to IE 6 until IE 6 works
>> - zoom in and disassemble the problemetic function
>> - see if a logic error etc. can be found
>> - fix the function and issue fixed .DLLs as on-request hotfix
>> - after testing, issue as downloadable hotfix, then WinUpate

>Okay, sounds good to me :)

I've started looking for IE 5.5 SP0, SP1 and SP2 versions of those
files, which I'll keep as templates .5S0, .5S1 and .5S2 along with my
regular .6S1 copy. I'll write a .BAT that will copy these into place
over the active ones after testing it's in DOS mode (they are
otherwise "in use"). Then I'll play, renaming each pair, and then
individual ones, into place for long enough to test-to-fix (about a
week per pass before I'd say it's OK).

>Chris, would you do me a favor, there is the other thread in this group that
>has two conversations going on within it, if you want to please read it and
>reply to your other fellow MVP's as to any pertinent facts that you can help
>let them know there is a problem, because as it stands surprisingly to me
>they do not think there is a problem at all and that it was already fixed -
>which I am baffled at why they think that.

>Please look for this header:

>From: "Jerry Bryant [MSFT]"
>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion................
>Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 2:06 AM
>Subject: MS05-002 on 9x and ME

I'm not on least-significant-byte terms with .kb articles or patch
numbers, but AFAIK what's happening is that this discussion we are in
now, is in fact in the middle of a thread on an unrelated and far more
recent patch (the one that runs as a resident process).

Both are problems, but different ones. Certainly the one that Jerry
is chasing up for MS is the new one, and it's good that this is being
pursued. What we are talking about - unless I'm badly confused - is a
far older issue that was raised as e.g. of previous patch gone wrong



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cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user) wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:16:04 -0500, "Rick Chauvin"
>>cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user) wrote:
>>>>Rick Chauvin wrote:
>
> (about Explorer.exe bogging down after bulk file operations)
>
>>> If I had resources to fix this (as one presumes MS has) I'd do this:
>>> - get documentation on what's changed in those two .DLL
>>> - any crucial exploits that depend on those files to fix?
>>> - determine most recent .DLL that work via the fix (IE 5.5 SP2?)
>
>>..any version of those dll's from 5.5 worked just fine, it was the first
>>release of IE6 and absolutely irregardless of what others think, even SP1
>>still has the same exact problem.
>
> I can confirm IE 6 SP1 has the same problem - that's what I have!


Yes I know, but this thread we have flagged is now lost in eternity of posts
and is also as the other one under a different heading.


>>About the dll's though and most likely it is them, but just because
>>swapping the dll's do appear on the surface to eliminate the problem
>>does not mean 100% it is the dll's that's the issue in the first place - it
>>could be other things closely related.
>
> Sure; it may be a point of fix, though.
>
> BrowseUI.dll is quite large, nearly 1M, so it's likely there's a lot
> of action there. BrowseLC.dll is a little 62k wisp of a thing, so
> it's interesting that it is cited as a co-defendent - especially as
> similar-wildcard-matching BrowseWM.dll was not.
>
>>> - FC these against the IE 6 ones that don't work
>>> - see if what FC finds can be mapped to particular functions
>>> - if offset dependencies allow:
>>> - paste across functions from IE 6 to old until old breaks
>>> - paste across functions from old to IE 6 until IE 6 works
>>> - zoom in and disassemble the problemetic function
>>> - see if a logic error etc. can be found
>>> - fix the function and issue fixed .DLLs as on-request hotfix
>>> - after testing, issue as downloadable hotfix, then WinUpate
>
>>Okay, sounds good to me :)
>
> I've started looking for IE 5.5 SP0, SP1 and SP2 versions of those
> files, which I'll keep as templates .5S0, .5S1 and .5S2 along with my
> regular .6S1 copy. I'll write a .BAT that will copy these into place
> over the active ones after testing it's in DOS mode (they are
> otherwise "in use"). Then I'll play, renaming each pair, and then
> individual ones, into place for long enough to test-to-fix (about a
> week per pass before I'd say it's OK).

Okay that's great, thanks much.
In the end others will thank you too.

>>Chris, would you do me a favor, there is the other thread in this group
>>that has two conversations going on within it, if you want to please read
>>it and reply to your other fellow MVP's as to any pertinent facts that you
>>can help let them know there is a problem, because as it stands
>>surprisingly to me they do not think there is a problem at all and that it
>>was already fixed - which I am baffled at why they think that.
>
>>Please look for this header:
>
>>From: "Jerry Bryant [MSFT]"
>>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion................
>>Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 2:06 AM
>>Subject: MS05-002 on 9x and ME

> I'm not on least-significant-byte terms with .kb articles or patch
> numbers, but AFAIK what's happening is that this discussion we are in
> now, is in fact in the middle of a thread on an unrelated and far more
> recent patch (the one that runs as a resident process).

Yes I realize that, but so is this one!

I suppose a new thread can be started, but I don't choose to be that leader
and it's not my own personal cross to bear although I do care and want to
make it right and I'm only trying to help others out to actually get the
problem fixed for a change. I sincerely think now though that those in
position didn't realize they had a problem with this, but I feel it warrants
just as much attention as that KB891711 post Jerry made and is why I tagged
onto it; although I wish some of the others that have jumped into that
thread would just kept it to a more professionally dialogue of helping
instead of some of the unhelpful sputterings that detracts from the positive
goal I'd like to see come about.

> Both are problems, but different ones. Certainly the one that Jerry
> is chasing up for MS is the new one, and it's good that this is being
> pursued. What we are talking about - unless I'm badly confused - is a
> far older issue that was raised as e.g. of previous patch gone wrong

Yes I agree, just like this thread is though.
Jerry's made his post, and I took the opportunity at that moment to bring up
the other subject just to get his attention, perhaps it should of been in a
different thread and I'm sorry about that now, but I can't change that. You
can start a new thread if you want - You have more hands on qualifications
than I do to effect change and to properly technically discuss the situation.
I will always help where I can.

I have to amend something in that other thread now though.

Thank you,
Rick


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I removed this file from Add/Remove Programs, programs running in
background take lot of memory.


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It uses 0% processes when I check it. 12k in memory.
What did you get?
You should see the processes loading with XP!.
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Iv'e had KB891711 installed on my machine since it was first offered as
an update at WUD. Iv'e never had any problems but followed the
discutions about all of the troubles other people have had.

I just updated my computer from WUD and after installing the "new"
KB891711 update I no longer have it running in the background. So the
update is probaly a new version.
 
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Yes, they advised all to use the new revised version:
04/12/05
Security Update for Windows 98 (KB891711)
Download size: 149 KB, < 1 minute
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| Iv'e had KB891711 installed on my machine since it was first offered as
| an update at WUD. Iv'e never had any problems but followed the
| discutions about all of the troubles other people have had.
|
| I just updated my computer from WUD and after installing the "new"
| KB891711 update I no longer have it running in the background. So the
| update is probaly a new version.
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Why was this security bulletin updated on April 12, 2005?

After the release of the MS05-002 security bulletin, Microsoft became aware
of an issue affecting customers deploying the Windows 98, 98SE and ME
security update. In most cases, the issue caused machines to unexpectedly
restart.

Microsoft has investigated this issue and has made available revised
security updates for these platforms. These revised security updates are
available from Windows Update and the Microsoft Download Center. Customers
who have not yet applied the original version of these updates should visit
Windows Update to receive the revised updates.

Customers who have already applied the original Windows 98, 98SE and ME
security update are advised to install the current revision of the update
from Windows Update.
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| Iv'e had KB891711 installed on my machine since it was first offered as
| an update at WUD. Iv'e never had any problems but followed the
| discutions about all of the troubles other people have had.
|
| I just updated my computer from WUD and after installing the "new"
| KB891711 update I no longer have it running in the background. So the
| update is probaly a new version.
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Fixed! See "891711/MS05-002 Updated (fixed) for Win9x" in this newsgroup.
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Star wrote:
> Thanks Leonard,
> Bad executable in the patch, you're fixed now and the fix is no longer a
> startup process on your puter, **now that's for me**!! I uninstalled the
> update completely and it's offered to me again. I went up to W-Update to
> view my install history, I was checking installed patches for VM and I
> scanned my puter at that time. I hated the fact that the fix was a startup
> process, and as hard as I tried to understand, just didn't make sense to
> me that Microsoft would design a patch like that??
>
> Sooo..... It's terrible, if they know that it's a bad executable and they
> are still offering the bad fix to W-98se users!! Could it me that the
> patch for KB8891711 currently available at WUD is corrected?? I just
> can't believe they are still offering a bad patch to users??
>
> I guess now it's time for me to call MS at PCSAFETY.
 

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Thxs, Pa...
PCR is/has going to take the patches, appears (2) are available.
Anxiously waiting for him to post back *positive* results.

Thsxs. to everyone that made this happen... if like Leonard explained, bad
executable was culprit.
How come this patch **actually worked without problems on many puters**??.
I would think it would be a *bust* on all puters that took the patch???
Personally, I believe it's not a bad executable, that's just my opinion.

Star

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> Fixed! See "891711/MS05-002 Updated (fixed) for Win9x" in this newsgroup.
> --
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> MS MVP-Windows (Shell, IE/OE) & Security
>
> Mastering Newsgroups in Outlook Express
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/community/columns/newsgroups.mspx
>
> Star wrote:
> > Thanks Leonard,
> > Bad executable in the patch, you're fixed now and the fix is no longer a
> > startup process on your puter, **now that's for me**!! I uninstalled
the
> > update completely and it's offered to me again. I went up to W-Update
to
> > view my install history, I was checking installed patches for VM and I
> > scanned my puter at that time. I hated the fact that the fix was a
startup
> > process, and as hard as I tried to understand, just didn't make sense to
> > me that Microsoft would design a patch like that??
> >
> > Sooo..... It's terrible, if they know that it's a bad executable and
they
> > are still offering the bad fix to W-98se users!! Could it me that the
> > patch for KB8891711 currently available at WUD is corrected?? I just
> > can't believe they are still offering a bad patch to users??
> >
> > I guess now it's time for me to call MS at PCSAFETY.
>
 
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We don't know *how* the executable was bad.

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> Thxs, Pa...
> PCR is/has going to take the patches, appears (2) are available.
> Anxiously waiting for him to post back *positive* results.
>
> Thsxs. to everyone that made this happen... if like Leonard explained,
bad
> executable was culprit.
> How come this patch **actually worked without problems on many
puters**??.
> I would think it would be a *bust* on all puters that took the
patch???
> Personally, I believe it's not a bad executable, that's just my
opinion.
>
> Star
>
> "PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OrBbtL5PFHA.3628@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > Fixed! See "891711/MS05-002 Updated (fixed) for Win9x" in this
newsgroup.
> > --
> > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> > MS MVP-Windows (Shell, IE/OE) & Security
> >
> > Mastering Newsgroups in Outlook Express
> >
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/community/columns/newsgroups.mspx
> >
> > Star wrote:
> > > Thanks Leonard,
> > > Bad executable in the patch, you're fixed now and the fix is no
longer a
> > > startup process on your puter, **now that's for me**!! I
uninstalled
> the
> > > update completely and it's offered to me again. I went up to
W-Update
> to
> > > view my install history, I was checking installed patches for VM
and I
> > > scanned my puter at that time. I hated the fact that the fix was a
> startup
> > > process, and as hard as I tried to understand, just didn't make
sense to
> > > me that Microsoft would design a patch like that??
> > >
> > > Sooo..... It's terrible, if they know that it's a bad executable
and
> they
> > > are still offering the bad fix to W-98se users!! Could it me that
the
> > > patch for KB8891711 currently available at WUD is corrected?? I
just
> > > can't believe they are still offering a bad patch to users??
> > >
> > > I guess now it's time for me to call MS at PCSAFETY.
> >
>
>
 
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Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy! THANKS, Kiesling, mae, Bear, even Terhune, &
especially [MSFT guy] Jerry Bryant. Me 'n Herman Munster are going to
look now... eeeek, there's two of them! KB891711 is being offered,
although I have uninstalled the original one (but only unchecked it). I
think I will play it safe & do the uninstall before taking the fixed
KB891711, though...

Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1
(KB890923)
Download size: 3.5 MB, 11 minutes
A security issue has been identified that could allow an attacker to
compromise a computer running Microsoft Internet Explorer and gain
control over it. You can help protect your computer by installing this
update from Microsoft. After you install this item, you may have to
restart your computer. Read more...

Remove
Security Update for Windows 98 (KB891711)
Download size: 149 KB, < 1 minute
A security issue has been identified that could allow an attacker to
compromise your Windows-based system and gain control over it. You can
help protect your computer by installing this update from Microsoft.
After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer. Read
more...


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Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
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| Why was this security bulletin updated on April 12, 2005?
|
| After the release of the MS05-002 security bulletin, Microsoft became
aware
| of an issue affecting customers deploying the Windows 98, 98SE and ME
| security update. In most cases, the issue caused machines to
unexpectedly
| restart.
|
| Microsoft has investigated this issue and has made available revised
| security updates for these platforms. These revised security updates
are
| available from Windows Update and the Microsoft Download Center.
Customers
| who have not yet applied the original version of these updates should
visit
| Windows Update to receive the revised updates.
|
| Customers who have already applied the original Windows 98, 98SE and
ME
| security update are advised to install the current revision of the
update
| from Windows Update.
| --
| mae
|
| <leacha@email.com> wrote in message
| news:1113327301.945764.88180@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| | Iv'e had KB891711 installed on my machine since it was first offered
as
| | an update at WUD. Iv'e never had any problems but followed the
| | discutions about all of the troubles other people have had.
| |
| | I just updated my computer from WUD and after installing the "new"
| | KB891711 update I no longer have it running in the background. So
the
| | update is probaly a new version.
| |
|
 
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| although I have uninstalled

It was offered although I had NOT uninstalled the prior one. Now, I've
uninstalled it in Add/Remove. No reboot was necessary, but the empty
folder...
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB891711
....was left behind. I deleted it, & also deleted KB891711 from the
Runservices- Registry key. Now I am taking in both the criticals.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:eXw%238O5PFHA.2132@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy! THANKS, Kiesling, mae, Bear, even Terhune, &
| especially [MSFT guy] Jerry Bryant. Me 'n Herman Munster are going to
| look now... eeeek, there's two of them! KB891711 is being offered,
| although I have uninstalled the original one (but only unchecked it).
I
| think I will play it safe & do the uninstall before taking the fixed
| KB891711, though...
|
| Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1
| (KB890923)
| Download size: 3.5 MB, 11 minutes
| A security issue has been identified that could allow an attacker to
| compromise a computer running Microsoft Internet Explorer and gain
| control over it. You can help protect your computer by installing this
| update from Microsoft. After you install this item, you may have to
| restart your computer. Read more...
|
| Remove
| Security Update for Windows 98 (KB891711)
| Download size: 149 KB, < 1 minute
| A security issue has been identified that could allow an attacker to
| compromise your Windows-based system and gain control over it. You can
| help protect your computer by installing this update from Microsoft.
| After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer.
Read
| more...
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
| pcrrcp@netzero.net
| "mae" <agrannie@notemail.msn.com> wrote in message
| news:uz10no4PFHA.1932@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| | Why was this security bulletin updated on April 12, 2005?
| |
| | After the release of the MS05-002 security bulletin, Microsoft
became
| aware
| | of an issue affecting customers deploying the Windows 98, 98SE and
ME
| | security update. In most cases, the issue caused machines to
| unexpectedly
| | restart.
| |
| | Microsoft has investigated this issue and has made available revised
| | security updates for these platforms. These revised security updates
| are
| | available from Windows Update and the Microsoft Download Center.
| Customers
| | who have not yet applied the original version of these updates
should
| visit
| | Windows Update to receive the revised updates.
| |
| | Customers who have already applied the original Windows 98, 98SE and
| ME
| | security update are advised to install the current revision of the
| update
| | from Windows Update.
| | --
| | mae
| |
| | <leacha@email.com> wrote in message
| | news:1113327301.945764.88180@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| | | Iv'e had KB891711 installed on my machine since it was first
offered
| as
| | | an update at WUD. Iv'e never had any problems but followed the
| | | discutions about all of the troubles other people have had.
| | |
| | | I just updated my computer from WUD and after installing the "new"
| | | KB891711 update I no longer have it running in the background. So
| the
| | | update is probaly a new version.
| | |
| |
|
|
 

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PCR Pro,
Pls. post your *GOOD* results after visiting WUD, anxious for your post.

Thanks, Star

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:%23BcRRZ5PFHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> | although I have uninstalled
>
> It was offered although I had NOT uninstalled the prior one. Now, I've
> uninstalled it in Add/Remove. No reboot was necessary, but the empty
> folder...
> C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB891711
> ...was left behind. I deleted it, & also deleted KB891711 from the
> Runservices- Registry key. Now I am taking in both the criticals.
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> news:eXw%238O5PFHA.2132@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> | Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy! THANKS, Kiesling, mae, Bear, even Terhune, &
> | especially [MSFT guy] Jerry Bryant. Me 'n Herman Munster are going to
> | look now... eeeek, there's two of them! KB891711 is being offered,
> | although I have uninstalled the original one (but only unchecked it).
> I
> | think I will play it safe & do the uninstall before taking the fixed
> | KB891711, though...
> |
> | Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1
> | (KB890923)
> | Download size: 3.5 MB, 11 minutes
> | A security issue has been identified that could allow an attacker to
> | compromise a computer running Microsoft Internet Explorer and gain
> | control over it. You can help protect your computer by installing this
> | update from Microsoft. After you install this item, you may have to
> | restart your computer. Read more...
> |
> | Remove
> | Security Update for Windows 98 (KB891711)
> | Download size: 149 KB, < 1 minute
> | A security issue has been identified that could allow an attacker to
> | compromise your Windows-based system and gain control over it. You can
> | help protect your computer by installing this update from Microsoft.
> | After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer.
> Read
> | more...
> |
> |
> | --
> | Thanks or Good Luck,
> | There may be humor in this post, and,
> | Naturally, you will not sue,
> | should things get worse after this,
> | PCR
> | pcrrcp@netzero.net
> | "mae" <agrannie@notemail.msn.com> wrote in message
> | news:uz10no4PFHA.1932@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> | | Why was this security bulletin updated on April 12, 2005?
> | |
> | | After the release of the MS05-002 security bulletin, Microsoft
> became
> | aware
> | | of an issue affecting customers deploying the Windows 98, 98SE and
> ME
> | | security update. In most cases, the issue caused machines to
> | unexpectedly
> | | restart.
> | |
> | | Microsoft has investigated this issue and has made available revised
> | | security updates for these platforms. These revised security updates
> | are
> | | available from Windows Update and the Microsoft Download Center.
> | Customers
> | | who have not yet applied the original version of these updates
> should
> | visit
> | | Windows Update to receive the revised updates.
> | |
> | | Customers who have already applied the original Windows 98, 98SE and
> | ME
> | | security update are advised to install the current revision of the
> | update
> | | from Windows Update.
> | | --
> | | mae
> | |
> | | <leacha@email.com> wrote in message
> | | news:1113327301.945764.88180@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> | | | Iv'e had KB891711 installed on my machine since it was first
> offered
> | as
> | | | an update at WUD. Iv'e never had any problems but followed the
> | | | discutions about all of the troubles other people have had.
> | | |
> | | | I just updated my computer from WUD and after installing the "new"
> | | | KB891711 update I no longer have it running in the background. So
> | the
> | | | update is probaly a new version.
> | | |
> | |
> |
> |
>
>
 
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PCR wrote:
> Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy! THANKS, Kiesling, mae, Bear, even Terhune, &
> especially [MSFT guy] Jerry Bryant. Me 'n Herman Munster are going to
> look now... eeeek, there's two of them! KB891711 is being offered,
> although I have uninstalled the original one (but only unchecked it). I
> think I will play it safe & do the uninstall before taking the fixed
> KB891711, though...

Always the contrarian, PCR! <eg>

</quote>
> <snip>
> Customers who have already applied the original Windows 98, 98SE and
> ME security update are advised to install the current revision of the
> update from Windows Update.
</quote>
--
~PAÞ
 
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They've come in, but I haven't yet reboot. A "Find, F/F, 891711" shows
all the files have returned where they were before. Also, MSCONFIG shows
KB891711.exe is BACK in the Startup Group, & CHECKED! It is not running
yet, as I have not reboot.

Looking at the new 891711UN.INF, I guess there is a chance that...

[WinUPD.AddReg]
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce","Uninstalling
KB891711",,"RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection
%17%\QFE\%SPKey%\891711UN.INF,FinishUninstall,2,N"

....will uninstall it after running once, BUT I don't know yet. And I
don't have much hope of it! Here's the whole thing...

.......Quote............
; 891711UN.INF
; This is the Setup information file to uninstall the Windows KB891711
Update:

[version]
AdvancedINF = 2.5, %AdvPackWarn%
signature=$CHICAGO$

[DefaultInstall]
delreg=WinUPD.Delreg
addreg=WinUPD.AddReg
SmartReboot=A

[FinishUninstall]
DelFiles=WinUPD.DelFiles,WinUPD.DelINF
DelDirs=WinUpd.Deldir

[DestinationDirs]
WinUPD.DelFiles = 11,KB891711
WinUPD.DelINF = 17,QFE\%SPKey%

[WinUPD.DelFiles]
KB891711.EXE
Q891711.DLL

[WinUPD.DelINF]
891711UN.INF

[WinUPD.deldir]
%11%\KB891711

[WinUPD.AddReg]
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce","Uninstalling
KB891711",,"RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection
%17%\QFE\%SPKey%\891711UN.INF,FinishUninstall,2,N"

[WinUPD.Delreg]
;msinfo32
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Active Setup\Installed Components\%GUID%",,,

;runservices
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices","KB891711",
,,

;qfecheck
HKLM,%UpdateKey%\%SPKey%\%LocaleID%%UpdID%\,,,

;uninstall
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\%UpdID%",,,

[Strings]
;Non-localizable
LANG= "EN"
LocaleID= "UPD"
Guid= "{32b1db33-27b9-43b7-8904-d5352decc292}"
VERSION= "4.10.0.2222"
UpdID= "891711"
UpdateKey= "Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup\Updates"
SPKey= "W98"


;Localizable strings
UpdName="Windows 98 KB891711 Patch"
AdvPackWarn="You need a newer version of advpack.dll."
SrcDiskName="KB891711 Patch"

[SourceDisksNames]
55=%SrcDiskName%,"",0

[SourceDisksFiles]
891711UN.INF=55
.......EOQ..............


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Star" <star@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:115oal5tbtlkr7a@corp.supernews.com...
| PCR Pro,
| Pls. post your *GOOD* results after visiting WUD, anxious for your
post.
|
| Thanks, Star
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:%23BcRRZ5PFHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| > | although I have uninstalled
| >
| > It was offered although I had NOT uninstalled the prior one. Now,
I've
| > uninstalled it in Add/Remove. No reboot was necessary, but the empty
| > folder...
| > C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB891711
| > ...was left behind. I deleted it, & also deleted KB891711 from the
| > Runservices- Registry key. Now I am taking in both the criticals.
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| > news:eXw%238O5PFHA.2132@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| > | Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy! THANKS, Kiesling, mae, Bear, even Terhune,
&
| > | especially [MSFT guy] Jerry Bryant. Me 'n Herman Munster are going
to
| > | look now... eeeek, there's two of them! KB891711 is being offered,
| > | although I have uninstalled the original one (but only unchecked
it).
| > I
| > | think I will play it safe & do the uninstall before taking the
fixed
| > | KB891711, though...
| > |
| > | Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1
| > | (KB890923)
| > | Download size: 3.5 MB, 11 minutes
| > | A security issue has been identified that could allow an attacker
to
| > | compromise a computer running Microsoft Internet Explorer and gain
| > | control over it. You can help protect your computer by installing
this
| > | update from Microsoft. After you install this item, you may have
to
| > | restart your computer. Read more...
| > |
| > | Remove
| > | Security Update for Windows 98 (KB891711)
| > | Download size: 149 KB, < 1 minute
| > | A security issue has been identified that could allow an attacker
to
| > | compromise your Windows-based system and gain control over it. You
can
| > | help protect your computer by installing this update from
Microsoft.
| > | After you install this item, you may have to restart your
computer.
| > Read
| > | more...
| > |
| > |
| > | --
| > | Thanks or Good Luck,
| > | There may be humor in this post, and,
| > | Naturally, you will not sue,
| > | should things get worse after this,
| > | PCR
| > | pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > | "mae" <agrannie@notemail.msn.com> wrote in message
| > | news:uz10no4PFHA.1932@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| > | | Why was this security bulletin updated on April 12, 2005?
| > | |
| > | | After the release of the MS05-002 security bulletin, Microsoft
| > became
| > | aware
| > | | of an issue affecting customers deploying the Windows 98, 98SE
and
| > ME
| > | | security update. In most cases, the issue caused machines to
| > | unexpectedly
| > | | restart.
| > | |
| > | | Microsoft has investigated this issue and has made available
revised
| > | | security updates for these platforms. These revised security
updates
| > | are
| > | | available from Windows Update and the Microsoft Download Center.
| > | Customers
| > | | who have not yet applied the original version of these updates
| > should
| > | visit
| > | | Windows Update to receive the revised updates.
| > | |
| > | | Customers who have already applied the original Windows 98, 98SE
and
| > | ME
| > | | security update are advised to install the current revision of
the
| > | update
| > | | from Windows Update.
| > | | --
| > | | mae
| > | |
| > | | <leacha@email.com> wrote in message
| > | | news:1113327301.945764.88180@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| > | | | Iv'e had KB891711 installed on my machine since it was first
| > offered
| > | as
| > | | | an update at WUD. Iv'e never had any problems but followed the
| > | | | discutions about all of the troubles other people have had.
| > | | |
| > | | | I just updated my computer from WUD and after installing the
"new"
| > | | | KB891711 update I no longer have it running in the background.
So
| > | the
| > | | | update is probaly a new version.
| > | | |
| > | |
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
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Guest
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No! I'm taking it, but just uninstalling the bad one first. It's in,
it's in, but I haven't reboot yet! Looks like it's all the same files in
the same old places. But this is new in the 891711UN.INF...

[WinUPD.AddReg]
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce","Uninstalling
KB891711",,"RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection
%17%\QFE\%SPKey%\891711UN.INF,FinishUninstall,2,N"

Although I don't actually see anything at that Registry address, I'm
thinking (from what Kiesling said) that magically this line will remove
KB891711.exe from the Startup Group after it has run once.

HMMMM, now I see where Kiesling said MS said NOT to uninstall the bad
one first. YIKES, but all the files seem to be back. Well... soon I
shall see, soon I shall see. (Ohhhhh, what a world, what a world.)


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23IAymw5PFHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| PCR wrote:
| > Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy! THANKS, Kiesling, mae, Bear, even Terhune, &
| > especially [MSFT guy] Jerry Bryant. Me 'n Herman Munster are going
to
| > look now... eeeek, there's two of them! KB891711 is being offered,
| > although I have uninstalled the original one (but only unchecked
it). I
| > think I will play it safe & do the uninstall before taking the fixed
| > KB891711, though...
|
| Always the contrarian, PCR! <eg>
|
| </quote>
| > <snip>
| > Customers who have already applied the original Windows 98, 98SE and
| > ME security update are advised to install the current revision of
the
| > update from Windows Update.
| </quote>
| --
| ~PAÞ
|
 
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Guest
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> No! I'm taking it, but just uninstalling the bad one first.

Yes, that's my point: Why uninstall it when the write-up says?...

> > </quote>
> > > <snip>
> > > Customers who have already applied the original Windows 98, 98SE and
> > > ME security update are advised to install the current revision of the
> > > update from Windows Update.
> > </quote>
--
~PAÞ


PCR wrote:
> No! I'm taking it, but just uninstalling the bad one first. It's in,
> it's in, but I haven't reboot yet! Looks like it's all the same files in
> the same old places. But this is new in the 891711UN.INF...
>
> [WinUPD.AddReg]
> HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce","Uninstalling
> KB891711",,"RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection
> %17%\QFE\%SPKey%\891711UN.INF,FinishUninstall,2,N"
>
> Although I don't actually see anything at that Registry address, I'm
> thinking (from what Kiesling said) that magically this line will remove
> KB891711.exe from the Startup Group after it has run once.
>
> HMMMM, now I see where Kiesling said MS said NOT to uninstall the bad
> one first. YIKES, but all the files seem to be back. Well... soon I
> shall see, soon I shall see. (Ohhhhh, what a world, what a world.)
>
>
> > PCR wrote:
> > > Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy! THANKS, Kiesling, mae, Bear, even Terhune, &
> > > especially [MSFT guy] Jerry Bryant. Me 'n Herman Munster are going to
> > > look now... eeeek, there's two of them! KB891711 is being offered,
> > > although I have uninstalled the original one (but only unchecked it).
> > > I think I will play it safe & do the uninstall before taking the fixed
> > > KB891711, though...
> >
> > Always the contrarian, PCR! <eg>
> >
> > </quote>
> > > <snip>
> > > Customers who have already applied the original Windows 98, 98SE and
> > > ME security update are advised to install the current revision of the
> > > update from Windows Update.
> > </quote>
> > --
> > ~PAÞ
 
G

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Guest
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Why not? I can't believe that MS built the new version such that the old
one is a prerequisite, whereas I *can* believe that various unknowns
might conspire to cause problems if the old version isn't uninstalled
first, <s>.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OAlpBx7PFHA.3144@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > No! I'm taking it, but just uninstalling the bad one first.
>
> Yes, that's my point: Why uninstall it when the write-up says?...
>
> > > </quote>
> > > > <snip>
> > > > Customers who have already applied the original Windows 98, 98SE
and
> > > > ME security update are advised to install the current revision
of the
> > > > update from Windows Update.
> > > </quote>
> --
> ~PAÞ
 
G

Guest

Guest
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Now, I've reboot & connected to the NET. All is well. It doesn't show at
Ctrl-Alt-Del, but is a hidden Running Task at "START, Run, MSInfo32,
Software Environment, Running Tasks".

The IE cumulative KB890923 also seems to be working just fine!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"Star" <star@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:115oal5tbtlkr7a@corp.supernews.com...
| PCR Pro,
| Pls. post your *GOOD* results after visiting WUD, anxious for your
post.
|
| Thanks, Star
|
| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| news:%23BcRRZ5PFHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| > | although I have uninstalled
| >
| > It was offered although I had NOT uninstalled the prior one. Now,
I've
| > uninstalled it in Add/Remove. No reboot was necessary, but the empty
| > folder...
| > C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB891711
| > ...was left behind. I deleted it, & also deleted KB891711 from the
| > Runservices- Registry key. Now I am taking in both the criticals.
| >
| >
| > --
| > Thanks or Good Luck,
| > There may be humor in this post, and,
| > Naturally, you will not sue,
| > should things get worse after this,
| > PCR
| > pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
| > news:eXw%238O5PFHA.2132@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| > | Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy! THANKS, Kiesling, mae, Bear, even Terhune,
&
| > | especially [MSFT guy] Jerry Bryant. Me 'n Herman Munster are going
to
| > | look now... eeeek, there's two of them! KB891711 is being offered,
| > | although I have uninstalled the original one (but only unchecked
it).
| > I
| > | think I will play it safe & do the uninstall before taking the
fixed
| > | KB891711, though...
| > |
| > | Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1
| > | (KB890923)
| > | Download size: 3.5 MB, 11 minutes
| > | A security issue has been identified that could allow an attacker
to
| > | compromise a computer running Microsoft Internet Explorer and gain
| > | control over it. You can help protect your computer by installing
this
| > | update from Microsoft. After you install this item, you may have
to
| > | restart your computer. Read more...
| > |
| > | Remove
| > | Security Update for Windows 98 (KB891711)
| > | Download size: 149 KB, < 1 minute
| > | A security issue has been identified that could allow an attacker
to
| > | compromise your Windows-based system and gain control over it. You
can
| > | help protect your computer by installing this update from
Microsoft.
| > | After you install this item, you may have to restart your
computer.
| > Read
| > | more...
| > |
| > |
| > | --
| > | Thanks or Good Luck,
| > | There may be humor in this post, and,
| > | Naturally, you will not sue,
| > | should things get worse after this,
| > | PCR
| > | pcrrcp@netzero.net
| > | "mae" <agrannie@notemail.msn.com> wrote in message
| > | news:uz10no4PFHA.1932@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| > | | Why was this security bulletin updated on April 12, 2005?
| > | |
| > | | After the release of the MS05-002 security bulletin, Microsoft
| > became
| > | aware
| > | | of an issue affecting customers deploying the Windows 98, 98SE
and
| > ME
| > | | security update. In most cases, the issue caused machines to
| > | unexpectedly
| > | | restart.
| > | |
| > | | Microsoft has investigated this issue and has made available
revised
| > | | security updates for these platforms. These revised security
updates
| > | are
| > | | available from Windows Update and the Microsoft Download Center.
| > | Customers
| > | | who have not yet applied the original version of these updates
| > should
| > | visit
| > | | Windows Update to receive the revised updates.
| > | |
| > | | Customers who have already applied the original Windows 98, 98SE
and
| > | ME
| > | | security update are advised to install the current revision of
the
| > | update
| > | | from Windows Update.
| > | | --
| > | | mae
| > | |
| > | | <leacha@email.com> wrote in message
| > | | news:1113327301.945764.88180@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| > | | | Iv'e had KB891711 installed on my machine since it was first
| > offered
| > | as
| > | | | an update at WUD. Iv'e never had any problems but followed the
| > | | | discutions about all of the troubles other people have had.
| > | | |
| > | | | I just updated my computer from WUD and after installing the
"new"
| > | | | KB891711 update I no longer have it running in the background.
So
| > | the
| > | | | update is probaly a new version.
| > | | |
| > | |
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
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It seems to have gone well, though. All the files are here & in the same
old places. It's running with no BSOD, but showing only in MSInfo32.

So? The thing also said, as you posted elsewhere...

news:ee%23iUJ5PFHA.3988@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl
.....Quote..........
Customers who have not yet applied the original version of these updates
should visit Windows Update to receive the revised updates.
.....EOQ............

I GUESS it thought I was one of them!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
"PA Bear" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OAlpBx7PFHA.3144@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| > No! I'm taking it, but just uninstalling the bad one first.
|
| Yes, that's my point: Why uninstall it when the write-up says?...
|
| > > </quote>
| > > > <snip>
| > > > Customers who have already applied the original Windows 98, 98SE
and
| > > > ME security update are advised to install the current revision
of the
| > > > update from Windows Update.
| > > </quote>
| --
| ~PAÞ
|
|
| PCR wrote:
| > No! I'm taking it, but just uninstalling the bad one first. It's in,
| > it's in, but I haven't reboot yet! Looks like it's all the same
files in
| > the same old places. But this is new in the 891711UN.INF...
| >
| > [WinUPD.AddReg]
| >
HKLM,"Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce","Uninstalling
| > KB891711",,"RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection
| > %17%\QFE\%SPKey%\891711UN.INF,FinishUninstall,2,N"
| >
| > Although I don't actually see anything at that Registry address, I'm
| > thinking (from what Kiesling said) that magically this line will
remove
| > KB891711.exe from the Startup Group after it has run once.
| >
| > HMMMM, now I see where Kiesling said MS said NOT to uninstall the
bad
| > one first. YIKES, but all the files seem to be back. Well... soon I
| > shall see, soon I shall see. (Ohhhhh, what a world, what a world.)
| >
| >
| > > PCR wrote:
| > > > Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy! THANKS, Kiesling, mae, Bear, even
Terhune, &
| > > > especially [MSFT guy] Jerry Bryant. Me 'n Herman Munster are
going to
| > > > look now... eeeek, there's two of them! KB891711 is being
offered,
| > > > although I have uninstalled the original one (but only unchecked
it).
| > > > I think I will play it safe & do the uninstall before taking the
fixed
| > > > KB891711, though...
| > >
| > > Always the contrarian, PCR! <eg>
| > >
| > > </quote>
| > > > <snip>
| > > > Customers who have already applied the original Windows 98, 98SE
and
| > > > ME security update are advised to install the current revision
of the
| > > > update from Windows Update.
| > > </quote>
| > > --
| > > ~PAÞ
|
 

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PCR Pro,
Just took the patches.... it was a long day for me and it's midnight here in
CA.
Before I rebooted I did run command msconfig & there it was, mine was
checked.
I did ctl, alt, del but it did show as a running process, And I remember the
first time I took it.... it did show up when I did ctl. alt. del.

I rebooted... again ran run command, and KB891711.exe is at the bottom of my
sparse list, checked of course.
ctl. alt. del doesn't appear in my list.

Start, Run, System Tools, MSInfo and s/w environment shows up for me in
running tasks & also *startup programs*.

I connected to DUN.... after hesitation, I launched IE, ***complete
success***!!

Confirm that after you re-booted that it remained as STARTUP application in
msconfig, because I do have it as a STARTUP in my msconfig.

So far so good, I see no problems!!

Star


"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:Oa6tSN8PFHA.2384@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Now, I've reboot & connected to the NET. All is well. It doesn't show at
> Ctrl-Alt-Del, but is a hidden Running Task at "START, Run, MSInfo32,
> Software Environment, Running Tasks".
>
> The IE cumulative KB890923 also seems to be working just fine!
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> "Star" <star@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:115oal5tbtlkr7a@corp.supernews.com...
> | PCR Pro,
> | Pls. post your *GOOD* results after visiting WUD, anxious for your
> post.
> |
> | Thanks, Star
> |
> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | news:%23BcRRZ5PFHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> | > | although I have uninstalled
> | >
> | > It was offered although I had NOT uninstalled the prior one. Now,
> I've
> | > uninstalled it in Add/Remove. No reboot was necessary, but the empty
> | > folder...
> | > C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KB891711
> | > ...was left behind. I deleted it, & also deleted KB891711 from the
> | > Runservices- Registry key. Now I am taking in both the criticals.
> | >
> | >
> | > --
> | > Thanks or Good Luck,
> | > There may be humor in this post, and,
> | > Naturally, you will not sue,
> | > should things get worse after this,
> | > PCR
> | > pcrrcp@netzero.net
> | > "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | > news:eXw%238O5PFHA.2132@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> | > | Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy! THANKS, Kiesling, mae, Bear, even Terhune,
> &
> | > | especially [MSFT guy] Jerry Bryant. Me 'n Herman Munster are going
> to
> | > | look now... eeeek, there's two of them! KB891711 is being offered,
> | > | although I have uninstalled the original one (but only unchecked
> it).
> | > I
> | > | think I will play it safe & do the uninstall before taking the
> fixed
> | > | KB891711, though...
> | > |
> | > | Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1
> | > | (KB890923)
> | > | Download size: 3.5 MB, 11 minutes
> | > | A security issue has been identified that could allow an attacker
> to
> | > | compromise a computer running Microsoft Internet Explorer and gain
> | > | control over it. You can help protect your computer by installing
> this
> | > | update from Microsoft. After you install this item, you may have
> to
> | > | restart your computer. Read more...
> | > |
> | > | Remove
> | > | Security Update for Windows 98 (KB891711)
> | > | Download size: 149 KB, < 1 minute
> | > | A security issue has been identified that could allow an attacker
> to
> | > | compromise your Windows-based system and gain control over it. You
> can
> | > | help protect your computer by installing this update from
> Microsoft.
> | > | After you install this item, you may have to restart your
> computer.
> | > Read
> | > | more...
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | --
> | > | Thanks or Good Luck,
> | > | There may be humor in this post, and,
> | > | Naturally, you will not sue,
> | > | should things get worse after this,
> | > | PCR
> | > | pcrrcp@netzero.net
> | > | "mae" <agrannie@notemail.msn.com> wrote in message
> | > | news:uz10no4PFHA.1932@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> | > | | Why was this security bulletin updated on April 12, 2005?
> | > | |
> | > | | After the release of the MS05-002 security bulletin, Microsoft
> | > became
> | > | aware
> | > | | of an issue affecting customers deploying the Windows 98, 98SE
> and
> | > ME
> | > | | security update. In most cases, the issue caused machines to
> | > | unexpectedly
> | > | | restart.
> | > | |
> | > | | Microsoft has investigated this issue and has made available
> revised
> | > | | security updates for these platforms. These revised security
> updates
> | > | are
> | > | | available from Windows Update and the Microsoft Download Center.
> | > | Customers
> | > | | who have not yet applied the original version of these updates
> | > should
> | > | visit
> | > | | Windows Update to receive the revised updates.
> | > | |
> | > | | Customers who have already applied the original Windows 98, 98SE
> and
> | > | ME
> | > | | security update are advised to install the current revision of
> the
> | > | update
> | > | | from Windows Update.
> | > | | --
> | > | | mae
> | > | |
> | > | | <leacha@email.com> wrote in message
> | > | | news:1113327301.945764.88180@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> | > | | | Iv'e had KB891711 installed on my machine since it was first
> | > offered
> | > | as
> | > | | | an update at WUD. Iv'e never had any problems but followed the
> | > | | | discutions about all of the troubles other people have had.
> | > | | |
> | > | | | I just updated my computer from WUD and after installing the
> "new"
> | > | | | KB891711 update I no longer have it running in the background.
> So
> | > | the
> | > | | | update is probaly a new version.
> | > | | |
> | > | |
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>
 

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